Le'Veon Bell

[Eddie Spaghetti]

If you haven't figured out the far greater value of a franchise QB relative to a RB by now, well, I don't think there's anything anyone here could say that would help you.

it really is amazing

[Mr.wizard]

I'm sure a lot of Bell's struggles are due to the fact that he doesn't have a great QB/offense around him, and not the best coaching ... but doesn't that just highlight how ridiculous it was for him to demand the kind of money he wanted? He wanted to be paid like a guy who could carry a team, but he's done nothing in New York to show he's that kind of a player. Yes, in a good system, he's very good, but he can't lift a bad offense. Consequently, he deserves nothing close to the $20 million or $17 million or whatever it was he was talking about.

But to be fair there isn't a running back in the league who can carry a team, it's a position dependent on the O-line and the QB. Being able to carry a team all by yourself is not a prerequisite to getting a contract, if that were the case nobody would be getting paid.

[NorthCoast]

Let me remind you of all the times Bell was not available during the most critical part of the season... Much prefer the RBBC, next man up when there's an injury.

[Steel Maniac]

Let me remind you of all the times Bell was not available during the most critical part of the season... Much prefer the RBBC, next man up when there's an injury.

this ^^^^^

[whatever]

Hmm... I think he was worth every dollar for the production he was giving us as a Steeler. Dude was averaging 129 yards a game as a Steeler the first 5 years or so.

If anything I think you blame the OC for giving Bell so many touches.

You can’t give a guy 300+ touches a year and then expect him to gives hometown discount.

So, who do you take off this team to make up 15 million to keep Bell?

[whatever]

If you haven't figured out the far greater value of a franchise QB relative to a RB by now, well, I don't think there's anything anyone here could say that would help you.

Yup. Pretty simple.
QBs make wrs
Oline make rbs

[Northern_Blitz]

Hmm... I think he was worth every dollar for the production he was giving us as a Steeler. Dude was averaging 129 yards a game as a Steeler the first 5 years or so.

If anything I think you blame the OC for giving Bell so many touches.

You can’t give a guy 300+ touches a year and then expect him to gives hometown discount.

I think it's probably fair to point out that his yards per game would be reduced with fewer touches.

Splitting touches would have also reduced his I'm a RB and WR argument.

Mismanaging the Bell Blount split may have cost us a trip to the SB IMO.

[Oh wow]

If you haven't figured out the far greater value of a franchise QB relative to a RB by now, well, I don't think there's anything anyone here could say that would help you.

Huh? I’m not asking for elite RB’s to make QB money.

You guys hear $14 million and run out in the street it’s the end of the world.

QB’s are making 35 mil per.

When a RB goes down you guys are quick to use it as the reason you won’t pay elite RB’s.

Yet ANY other position where a guy goes down... you rarely say a word about why you don’t want to spend that money on elite players at that position.

I’m not just talking WR either. Lineman gets injured... no speech about why you won’t pay elite talent at that position.

DL, CB, LB...

Any other time a player goes down no one says “this is what concerns me about paying elite money”

It’s bull and outdated. Especially when you factor in the amount of touches a RB gets. It’s actually highway robbery and I hope more of them get paid.

and spare the “look at him on a bad team”


You can do that for any position or any coach. A bad team isn’t going to get better overnight with just one piece and paying an elite RB won’t crush your ability to build a team.

[whatever]

Huh? I’m not asking for elite RB’s to make QB money.

You guys hear $14 million and run out in the street it’s the end of the world.

QB’s are making 35 mil per.

When a RB goes down you guys are quick to use it as the reason you won’t pay elite RB’s.

Yet ANY other position where a guy goes down... you rarely say a word about why you don’t want to spend that money on elite players at that position.

I’m not just talking WR either. Lineman gets injured... no speech about why you won’t pay elite talent at that position.

DL, CB, LB...

Any other time a player goes down no one says “this is what concerns me about paying elite money”

It’s bull and outdated. Especially when you factor in the amount of touches a RB gets. It’s actually highway robbery and I hope more of them get paid.

and spare the “look at him on a bad team”


You can do that for any position or any coach. A bad team isn’t going to get better overnight with just one piece and paying an elite RB won’t crush your ability to build a team.

So again, who do you cut off our team so you can give Bell his 15 million?

[Mr.wizard]

So again, who do you cut off our team so you can give Bell his 15 million?

You don't have to cut anyone, the Steelers were already offering Bell that much and that's with Antonio Brown under contract. What do you think is going to happen when we have to sign Dupree, Watt, Hargrave, Juju, and Conner?

[Oh wow]

So again, who do you cut off our team so you can give Bell his 15 million?

We offered Bell that much with AB on the books.

but let’s say we had to trim the fat.

Mongrief
Barron
Switzer

You can restructure contracts as well. I’m sure Colbert could get a bit more creative with Ben’s contract as well.

and we don’t draft Snell, we draft another player for depth.

[Eddie Spaghetti]

he's gone

get over it already

[Northern_Blitz]

We offered Bell that much with AB on the books.

but let’s say we had to trim the fat.

Mongrief
Barron
Switzer

You can restructure contracts as well. I’m sure Colbert could get a bit more creative with Ben’s contract as well.

and we don’t draft Snell, we draft another player for depth.

I don't think we would have been able to sign Nelson if we kept Bell. I also don't think we would have been able to sign Moncrief, but like you said that's not such a huge thing.

So far, that trade off seems to be good for the team as a whole IMO.

[Oh wow]

I don't think we would have been able to sign Nelson if we kept Bell. I also don't think we would have been able to sign Moncrief, but like you said that's not such a huge thing.

So far, that trade off seems to be good for the team as a whole IMO.

Maybe but I’m not so sure. I think Colbert can make money appear if we really wants a player.

We are notorious for kicking the can down the road to keep or acquire talent.

[whatever]

We offered Bell that much with AB on the books.

but let’s say we had to trim the fat.

Mongrief
Barron
Switzer

You can restructure contracts as well. I’m sure Colbert could get a bit more creative with Ben’s contract as well.

and we don’t draft Snell, we draft another player for depth.

Hindsight.
We desperately needed a wr and ilb so decent money still would have been needed. Switzer hardly makes any money and he would need replaced also.
More than likely you aren't signing Nelson or extend Haden.
Then next year no chance to keep Tuitt or Dupree or sign anyone good to replace them.