Le'Veon Bell

[Oh wow]

We ran FINE and were IMPROVED on short yardage, and ypc were UP last season WITHOUT Bell. Why, if the problem is backs who can't hit a hole?

Possibly the fact that Ben winged the ball all the time made it easier to run REGARDLESS the runner?

Look at our running game the second half of the year in second halves.. we weren’t good. We couldn’t grind out wins or sustain drives o. The ground.

I “think” Ben has the most passing attempts of his career last year because we couldn’t run the ball when we needed to.

I definitely blame Fitchner for some of it and maybe he called runs and Ben checked out of them but the running game wasn’t that good down the stretch outside of the Pats game.

[Ernie]

Our 30 million dollar QB isn’t playing this year.

The last thing any Steeler fan should do is ask how 3 teams feel about paying a RB 13 mill a year.

Saints
Jags
Steelers
Panthers
Redskins
Chiefs
Broncos

All these teams lost their QB for a few games.

Hell, how do we feel with Tuitt missing the rest of the season?

It’s football fellas. It’s time to stop trying to make RB injuries much more worrisome than other positions where players also make a ton of money.

Why should a team feel worse about losing a RB for a few games than any other position they paid good money for and also had injuries?

How do we feel when Haden misses a few games? Do we regret the money spent? No, we deal with it and then welcome him
back when healthy.

The prejudice some have against elite RB’s making decent money is weird because it never extends to any other position when players are injured.

the problem with this whole arguement is.. RBs are a dime a dozen.. teams that pay 15 mill a year for RBs.. are quickly fading to irrelevance

[Ernie]

Here is the problem. Everyone said you can replace an elite RB with RB by committee and have the same or similar production.

Where is our production this year?

Where is our running game?

Is it all based on the QB? I don’t think so. These new guys aren’t hitting the right holes or making anyone miss.

dude.. 2 of our top 3 guys have been inactive for most of the year.. its hard to get consistency in the run game when you are pulling guys up from the PS and off of the street...and asking them to tote the rock with minimal 1st team reps on short notice

[Oh wow]

dude.. 2 of our top 3 guys have been inactive for most of the year.. its hard to get consistency in the run game when you are pulling guys up from the PS and off of the street...and asking them to tote the rock with minimal 1st team reps on short notice

So you can’t just plug a RB in and have success?

People made it sound like it was so easy.

[hawaiiansteel]

So you can’t just plug a RB in and have success?

People made it sound like it was so easy.

well, not a team's 4th and 5th string RBs...

[Northern_Blitz]

So you can’t just plug a RB in and have success?

People made it sound like it was so easy.

I think the issue was that there were signs that Bell was declining.

Then he took a year off.

Now his numbers don't look good.

I think I would have been OK with the contract we offered if we were getting peak Bell. But it didn't look like we would get that at the start of the contract, so the end would probably be painful.

[Captain Lemming]

Look at our running game the second half of the year in second halves.. we weren’t good. We couldn’t grind out wins or sustain drives o. The ground.

I “think” Ben has the most passing attempts of his career last year because we couldn’t run the ball when we needed to.

I definitely blame Fitchner for some of it and maybe he called runs and Ben checked out of them but the running game wasn’t that good down the stretch outside of the Pats game.

And WHY did we run so well in THAT game?
Even MORE focus on the pass game and Ben BECAUSE of the loss of Conner.
My point exactly.

And "couldnt run when we needed to?"

Try Bells whole career. He has THRIVED when the pass sets up the run.

When we NEED a tough yard or two and people EXPECT run?

DeAngelo AND Conners...BOTH got it done more than "I wanna DANCE with somebody" in the backfield Bell.

[Ernie]

So you can’t just plug a RB in and have success?

People made it sound like it was so easy.

thats too vague...

plug them in in camp.. preseason, etc.. absolutely. need those reps.. mid season off of the street with basically zero reps? not near as likely. theres a huge difference in terms of "plug and play". to put them all under umbrella is just plain lazy

[Ernie]

i guess the "plug and play" with Bell has been an abysmal failure thus far... but in his case...its obviously everyone elses fault (the fired GM, first year coach, Ball Boy, Equipment Manager, 2 Hookers that stole 500k in jewely etc etc).

[Oh wow]

And WHY did we run so well in THAT game?
Even MORE focus on the pass game and Ben BECAUSE of the loss of Conner.
My point exactly.

And "couldnt run when we needed to?"

Try Bells whole career. He has THRIVED when the pass sets up the run.

When we NEED a tough yard or two and people EXPECT run?

DeAngelo AND Conners...BOTH got it done more than "I wanna DANCE with somebody" in the backfield Bell.

I’m not talking about getting a hard 1 yard. I’m talking about closing out games strong. Burning clock. Imposing our will.

Who holds the record for most yards on the ground in a playoff game as a Steeler?

When Ben kept trying to throw the game away in Buffalo who ran it down their throats for 236 yards?

When we played KC in KC who had 30 carries for 170?

But keep talking about 1 yard like we have been getting it this year when we really need it.

[Oh wow]

thats too vague...

plug them in in camp.. preseason, etc.. absolutely. need those reps.. mid season off of the street with basically zero reps? not near as likely. theres a huge difference in terms of "plug and play". to put them all under umbrella is just plain lazy

What’s lazy is telling everyone we can get the same production IN PITTSBURGH without Bell and not getting it.

It’s also lazy to write Bell off because they aren’t good this year.

[Ernie]

What’s lazy is telling everyone we can get the same production IN PITTSBURGH without Bell and not getting it.

It’s also lazy to write Bell off because they aren’t good this year.

and its lazy making claims about what we are and arent doing in pitt, while asking us to refrain from judgement on Bell during that same exact time period..

or i guess thatd be called a "Double standard"...

[Captain Lemming]

What’s lazy is telling everyone we can get the same production IN PITTSBURGH without Bell and not getting it.

It’s also lazy to write Bell off because they aren’t good this year.

Our run game was on the decline WITH Bell Dizz.
We are two years removed from THAT and Bell is a SHELL of that.

You wanna blame HIS oline now? BY YOUR OWN MOUTH our oline is old and worse than the one he had.
Thjere is ZERO basis for believing Bell and his 3 ypc would do squat on THIS team.

[Captain Lemming]

I’m not talking about getting a hard 1 yard. I’m talking about closing out games strong. Burning clock. Imposing our will.

Who holds the record for most yards on the ground in a playoff game as a Steeler?

When Ben kept trying to throw the game away in Buffalo who ran it down their throats for 236 yards?

When we played KC in KC who had 30 carries for 170?

But keep talking about 1 yard like we have been getting it this year when we really need it.

Conners has 97 carries to Bells 143
INJURED Conners has TWICE the TDs running and TWICE the TDs receiving than Bell right now.

[whatever]

Conners has 97 carries to Bells 143
INJURED Conners has TWICE the TDs running and TWICE the TDs receiving than Bell right now.

And at 1/10th the cap hit.