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  • pittpete
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    • Aug 2008
    • 6825

    Perhaps Bell will now set the bar for RBs not wanted by their teams now....LOL
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    • whatever
      Legend
      • Sep 2019
      • 5789

      Originally posted by BURGH86STEEL
      The reported deal the Steelers offered Bell wouldn't had been a problem. That's because they didn't offer him the guaranteed money that would had made it difficult to move on from him after one or two years.

      With RBs and players in general it's all about the structure of the contracts. Teams can protect themselves to a degree with contracts that are structured properly. Players protect themselves with the guaranteed money. At some point there needs to be a proper balance for players and teams.
      His production is what made his contract a problem.
      How is it possible to have the best owner, best front office, best gm, best HC, good/great drafts every year and good FA acquisitions every year, but only have 3 playoff wins in 14 years?

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      • fordfixer
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        • May 2008
        • 10854

        I just ......

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        • fordfixer
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          • May 2008
          • 10854

          Want to.......

          Molon labe

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          • fordfixer
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            • May 2008
            • 10854

            Get this.....

            Molon labe

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            ?We're not going to apologize for winning.?
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            • fordfixer
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 10854

              Thread to page 150

              Molon labe

              People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf. George Orwell

              ?We're not going to apologize for winning.?
              Mike Tomlin

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              • feltdizz
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                • May 2008
                • 27222

                So....did Bell get traded already?
                Steelers 27
                Rats 16

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                • whatever
                  Legend
                  • Sep 2019
                  • 5789

                  Originally posted by fordfixer
                  Thread to page 150
                  Bell said he wanted to set the bar for other overated rbs message board topics.
                  How is it possible to have the best owner, best front office, best gm, best HC, good/great drafts every year and good FA acquisitions every year, but only have 3 playoff wins in 14 years?

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                  • Steel Maniac
                    Banned
                    • Apr 2017
                    • 19472

                    Originally posted by whatever
                    Bell said he wanted to set the bar for other overated rbs message board topics.
                    Bell set the bar for the modern day runningbacks who look foolish. That's the only bar he's set.

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                    • hawaiiansteel
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                      • May 2008
                      • 35314

                      Won't be cut, but ...

                      Le'Veon Bell, running back

                      Current cap charge: $15.5 million | Dead money if cut: $19 million | Savings: -$3.5 million

                      They won't cut Bell; the cap hit is prohibitive. The better question is, will they trade him? The organization has come to the realization that, because of his massive salary, the chances of a trade are remote. To create a market, they'd have to be willing to pay a chunk of his 2020 salary ($13.5 million in total guarantees). Even then, the return would be minimal, probably a Day 3 draft pick. The Jets, who felt Bell gained weight and lost explosiveness as the season went on, have to make it work for another year.

                      Some anticipated moves, like releasing CB Trumaine Johnson, could create at least $25.1 million in cap space as the Jets look to make improvements.

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                      • feltdizz
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 27222

                        So he hasn’t been cut or traded yet?

                        oh, the dog days of summer.

                        a couple throwaway deadline articles and then...

                        nothing.
                        Steelers 27
                        Rats 16

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                        • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 10114

                          Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                          Won't be cut, but ...

                          Le'Veon Bell, running back

                          Current cap charge: $15.5 million | Dead money if cut: $19 million | Savings: -$3.5 million

                          They won't cut Bell; the cap hit is prohibitive. The better question is, will they trade him? The organization has come to the realization that, because of his massive salary, the chances of a trade are remote. To create a market, they'd have to be willing to pay a chunk of his 2020 salary ($13.5 million in total guarantees). Even then, the return would be minimal, probably a Day 3 draft pick. The Jets, who felt Bell gained weight and lost explosiveness as the season went on, have to make it work for another year.

                          https://www.espn.com/blog/new-york-j...on-in-cap-cuts
                          The Jets outsmarted themselves. Even though there were big guarantees in his contract, it was structured so that if he is moved then the team that trades for him is on the hook for the guarantees. The problem for them is that at his numbers (both contract and production) nobody will be willing to pay out those guaranteed bonuses for that kind of production.
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                          • Oviedo
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                            • May 2008
                            • 23776

                            Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                            Won't be cut, but ...

                            Le'Veon Bell, running back

                            Current cap charge: $15.5 million | Dead money if cut: $19 million | Savings: -$3.5 million

                            They won't cut Bell; the cap hit is prohibitive. The better question is, will they trade him? The organization has come to the realization that, because of his massive salary, the chances of a trade are remote. To create a market, they'd have to be willing to pay a chunk of his 2020 salary ($13.5 million in total guarantees). Even then, the return would be minimal, probably a Day 3 draft pick. The Jets, who felt Bell gained weight and lost explosiveness as the season went on, have to make it work for another year.

                            https://www.espn.com/blog/new-york-j...on-in-cap-cuts
                            The Jets have enough cap space that this hit would not negatively effect them at all...
                            "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                            • feltdizz
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 27222

                              Originally posted by Oviedo
                              The Jets have enough cap space that this hit would not negatively effect them at all...
                              If he was a locker room cancer I would agree but all reports say he has been a good teammate.
                              Steelers 27
                              Rats 16

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                              • Oviedo
                                Legend
                                • May 2008
                                • 23776

                                Originally posted by feltdizz
                                If he was a locker room cancer I would agree but all reports say he has been a good teammate.

                                ...but the Head Coach doesn't want him and never did. His performance to pay ratio demonstrates that Gase was right.
                                "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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