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  • RuthlessBurgher
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 33208

    #31
    Originally posted by feltdizz
    So you admit Tomlin has drafted a ton of talent?

    Thanks for playing!!!
    Cowher's GM picked those players. Tomlin also obviously benefits tremendously from playing in Cowher's stadium while wearing Cowher's uniforms. And don't forget Cowher's ownership group. Lucky bastage...
    Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

    Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

    We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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    • squidkid
      Legend
      • Feb 2012
      • 5847

      #32
      Originally posted by feltdizz
      So you admit Tomlin has drafted a ton of talent?

      Thanks for playing!!!

      sure, all steals of the draft, according to you.
      steelers = 3 ring circus with tomlin being the head clown

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      • feltdizz
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 27564

        #33
        Originally posted by squidkid
        sure, all steals of the draft, according to you.
        well, if they are the most talented then sure, they would be.
        Steelers 27
        Rats 16

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        • phillyesq
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 7568

          #34
          Originally posted by Terrapin
          I don't disagree with any of this.

          My complaints about Tomlin are things like clock mgt, playing down to competition, in-game decisions, etc.

          He's also been blessed with several hall of famers (including QB), which makes his job a little easier. But he has won (a lot), has a SB, and I have a hard time believing there are many (if any) coaches out there that could do better.

          He, like everyone else, should be held accountable for losing, and should get credit for winning.
          I think this is pretty well stated.

          How he does this year will have a long way to go in shaping his legacy. The window for the Steelers to win has never been better, and with the amount of talent on the team right now, this group needs to win a Lombardi.

          Next year will be tough - unless the cap increases significantly, the team is right at the cap and would need to clear significant room to keep bell. And that's just right now with 39 players under contract.

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          • Slapstick
            Rookie
            • May 2008
            • 0

            #35
            Originally posted by phillyesq
            I think this is pretty well stated.

            How he does this year will have a long way to go in shaping his legacy. The window for the Steelers to win has never been better, and with the amount of talent on the team right now, this group needs to win a Lombardi.

            Next year will be tough - unless the cap increases significantly, the team is right at the cap and would need to clear significant room to keep bell. And that's just right now with 39 players under contract.
            If they cut Mitchell, McDonald, and JJ Wilcox, that gives them enough money to franchise Bell again...

            I think you address Mitchell’s position in the draft. For all that McDonald and Wilcox played, you would probably do just as well with Jake McGee and Jordan Dangerfield from the practice squad...and I like McDonald...he just can’t seem to stay healthy...according to the depot, he had a $500K+ escalator in his contract if he suited up for 11 games...he was available only for 10 games, so the Steelers should be credited for that Likely To Be Earned incentive on the 2018 cap...

            Then, more restructuring, I think...
            Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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            • RuthlessBurgher
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 33208

              #36
              Originally posted by phillyesq
              Next year will be tough - unless the cap increases significantly, the team is right at the cap and would need to clear significant room to keep bell. And that's just right now with 39 players under contract.
              Report: 2018 NFL Salary Cap Could Rise to $178 Million

              By Scooby Axson
              December 13, 2017

              The salary cap next season for the National Football League is expected to be the range of $174 million to $178 million, reports NFL.com's Ian Rapoport.

              Teams were told of the increase before the league's meetings in Dallas. The official salary cap number won't be known until the start of the league year in March.

              This year's salary cap was set at $167 million, which was the fourth straight season the cap saw an increase.

              The San Francisco 49ers, Cleveland Browns, Indianapolis Colts and New York Jets are projected to have the most to spend on free agents next season.

              Among the players expected to hit the free agent market are Washington Redskins quarterback Kirk Cousins, New Orleans Saints quarterback Drew Brees, Pittsburgh Steelers running back Le'Veon Bell, San Francisco 49ers quarterback Garoppolo, Minnesota Vikings quarterback Sam Bradford and Seattle Seahawks tight end Jimmy Graham.

              https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/12/13/salary-cap-increase-2018-season
              Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

              Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

              We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

              We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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              • pittpete
                Legend
                • Aug 2008
                • 6825

                #37
                Originally posted by feltdizz
                So you admit Tomlin has drafted a ton of talent?

                Thanks for playing!!!
                LOL, he'll disappear now for awhile
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                • squidkid
                  Legend
                  • Feb 2012
                  • 5847

                  #38
                  Originally posted by pittpete
                  LOL, he'll disappear now for awhile

                  nope. i'll be around to keep reminding those tomlin ball washers that he won with his own players, just like switzer and gruden did
                  steelers = 3 ring circus with tomlin being the head clown

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                  • feltdizz
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 27564

                    #39
                    Originally posted by pittpete
                    LOL, he'll disappear now for awhile
                    its obvious he just throws stuff out there to see what sticks but man, he sure puts his foot in his mouth while trying to dog this team out.
                    Steelers 27
                    Rats 16

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                    • squidkid
                      Legend
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 5847

                      #40
                      Originally posted by feltdizz
                      its obvious he just throws stuff out there to see what sticks but man, he sure puts his foot in his mouth while trying to dog this team out.

                      how's your browns will win more games than N.O. doing?
                      steelers = 3 ring circus with tomlin being the head clown

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                      • feltdizz
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 27564

                        #41
                        Originally posted by squidkid
                        how's your browns will win more games than N.O. doing?
                        it failed miserably.

                        Never bet on Browns.

                        See how easy easy that is? Instead of tripling down on wrongness I fessed up. Now I can continue to post without having to defend dumb ass agendas that are totally false.
                        Steelers 27
                        Rats 16

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                        • pittpete
                          Legend
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 6825

                          #42
                          Originally posted by squidkid
                          nope. i'll be around to keep reminding those tomlin ball washers that he won with his own players, just like switzer and gruden did
                          Not arguing but he's winning now with his own players..
                          sigpic

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                          • Slapstick
                            Rookie
                            • May 2008
                            • 0

                            #43
                            Originally posted by pittpete
                            Not arguing but he's winning now with his own players..
                            Every thing he’s won has been with his own players...
                            Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                            • JAR
                              Pro Bowler
                              • May 2008
                              • 1620

                              #44
                              The Steelers are 22-4 in their last 26 games.

                              Tomlin's second have record the last 5 years.

                              6-2
                              6-2
                              6-2
                              7-1
                              7-1

                              Total: 32-8

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                              • phillyesq
                                Legend
                                • May 2008
                                • 7568

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Slapstick
                                If they cut Mitchell, McDonald, and JJ Wilcox, that gives them enough money to franchise Bell again...

                                I think you address Mitchell’s position in the draft. For all that McDonald and Wilcox played, you would probably do just as well with Jake McGee and Jordan Dangerfield from the practice squad...and I like McDonald...he just can’t seem to stay healthy...according to the depot, he had a $500K+ escalator in his contract if he suited up for 11 games...he was available only for 10 games, so the Steelers should be credited for that Likely To Be Earned incentive on the 2018 cap...

                                Then, more restructuring, I think...
                                It's doable but it won't be easy.

                                But in any event, things are lined up well this year. Aside from the gaping hole at ILB from Shazier's injury, the team is healthy and most guys are playing as well as they ever have.

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