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  • BradshawsHairdresser
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    • Dec 2008
    • 7056

    Originally posted by Mr.wizard
    It's not about being satisfied, it's about being realistic, the team is not perfect but it's definitely trending in the right direction. Also I disagree that we can't compete for a superbowl, we most certainly can compete and win a superbowl with the current cast.
    I agree that, in many ways, the team has progressed ... I also want to be realistic. Can the Steelers win a Super Bowl with the current cast? Maybe, although I think it would be good to add a couple of key pieces via the draft and FA. What I'm saying is that they're NOT going to win a Super Bowl unless they make some changes in the way they gameplan and do adjustments in-game, and they're NOT going to win a Super Bowl without better discipline and focus. I'm not saying they have to do everything like the *'s. But the "current cast" MUST do SOME things BETTER or, NO, they will NOT be able to obtain another Lombardi.

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    • BradshawsHairdresser
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      • Dec 2008
      • 7056

      Originally posted by Mr.wizard
      Are you going leave 36 million dollars on the table?
      If I had won a couple of Super Bowls, had over $100 million in the bank already, and didn't think my current team was really committed to doing what is needed to win another championship? Yeah, I might. Is 36 million more really going to make Ben happier or improve his quality of life? I don't think so. But if he really thinks he's got a decent chance to win another Lombardi? I think that's the major driving factor.

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      • squidkid
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        • Feb 2012
        • 5847

        Originally posted by Mr.wizard
        Are you going leave 36 million dollars on the table?
        that is one of the most ignorant things i have heard.
        what i am leaving on the table what i have been making the last few years. what i did with that money while i was working is saved and invested.
        so you think really think my family is set up better than bens?.................hilarious
        steelers = 3 ring circus with tomlin being the head clown

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        • Real Deal Steel
          Banned
          • Jan 2017
          • 1229

          Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
          Bellichick wouldn't allow his defensive coordinator come off the plane wearing a t-shirt depicting the NFL Commissioner wearing a clown nose. He's all about professionalism and discipline, after all.

          Dude, Bellichek sanctioned that shirt. That shirt is a sign of what the Patriots are saying behind the veil. Like I said, Bellichek is in control over there.

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          • Real Deal Steel
            Banned
            • Jan 2017
            • 1229

            Originally posted by BradshawsHairdresser
            If I had won a couple of Super Bowls, had over $100 million in the bank already, and didn't think my current team was really committed to doing what is needed to win another championship? Yeah, I might. Is 36 million more really going to make Ben happier or improve his quality of life? I don't think so. But if he really thinks he's got a decent chance to win another Lombardi? I think that's the major driving factor.
            Well Ben said it, so clearly money isn't a driving force to him right now.

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            • BradshawsHairdresser
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              • Dec 2008
              • 7056

              Originally posted by Real Deal Steel
              Dude, Bellichek sanctioned that shirt. That shirt is a sign of what the Patriots are saying behind the veil. Like I said, Bellichek is in control over there.
              $$$$$$$$$
              You can be sure Belichick was OK with the shirt. He knew they could get away with it, that it wouldn't impact his team's ability to win. It was as much a slap at Goodell from BB as it was from his DC.

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              • Real Deal Steel
                Banned
                • Jan 2017
                • 1229

                Originally posted by BradshawsHairdresser
                $$$$$$$$$
                You can be sure Belichick was OK with the shirt. He knew they could get away with it, that it wouldn't impact his team's ability to win. It was as much a slap at Goodell from BB as it was from his DC.
                No doubt. Publicly, the Patriots will say all the right things; privately, they think his a bum and a clown. And Kraft hinted at that when he said, this Super Bowl is the sweetest considering everything that has happened this year.

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                • feltdizz
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                  • May 2008
                  • 27531

                  Originally posted by BradshawsHairdresser
                  You're satisfied with getting close, good for you.

                  Yes, Ben's protection has improved, and no, the team isn't "in shambles," and no, the coaching staff isn't "inept" ... but they aren't where they need to be to truly compete for a Super Bowl win. My concern is that too many of the players and coaches on the team are content with what they've been doing and where it's gotten them, and aren't really looking to make the necessary changes.
                  What makes you believe our players and coaches are content with where we are right now?

                  The last 3 years we have gone further into the playoffs. Is that due to being content? We drafted Burns, Davis and Hargrove and all have contributed this year.

                  Seriously, you guys need to actually have more proof than losing to NE in the AFCCG and a Facebook live incident to sum up the players and coaches drive to win.
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                  • feltdizz
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                    • May 2008
                    • 27531

                    Originally posted by squidkid
                    that is one of the most ignorant things i have heard.
                    what i am leaving on the table what i have been making the last few years. what i did with that money while i was working is saved and invested.
                    so you think really think my family is set up better than bens?.................hilarious
                    What an odd way to interpret a hypothetical question.
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                    • squidkid
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                      • Feb 2012
                      • 5847

                      Originally posted by feltdizz
                      What an odd way to interpret a hypothetical question.
                      its ignorant because i just told him my situation then he acts as if i would be walking away from 36 million the next couple years
                      why does anyone ever retire then? they are all walking away from more money than if they stayed working, yet everybody strives towards that day they can call it a career.
                      whether its a 30k or 5 million a year job, retirement is the goal.

                      that being said, if i hypothetically had over 100 million dollars in the bank, was tired of getting beat up, was tired of my boss, tired of the young coworkers antics and wasnt convinced positive changes were going to be made at the workplace, then maybe. it would also depend if my family was concerned about my well being and wanted me to retire.
                      steelers = 3 ring circus with tomlin being the head clown

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                      • feltdizz
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                        • May 2008
                        • 27531

                        Originally posted by squidkid
                        its ignorant because i just told him my situation then he acts as if i would be walking away from 36 million the next couple years
                        why does anyone ever retire then? they are all walking away from more money than if they stayed working, yet everybody strives towards that day they can call it a career.
                        whether its a 30k or 5 million a year job, retirement is the goal.

                        that being said, if i hypothetically had over 100 million dollars in the bank, was tired of getting beat up, was tired of my boss, tired of the young coworkers antics and wasnt convinced positive changes were going to be made at the workplace, then maybe. it would also depend if my family was concerned about my well being and wanted me to retire.
                        The difference is most people aren't under contract and aren't on the hook to pay back a percentage if they retire early.

                        Why does Harrison still play? He doesn't need the money. Most NFL players can retire after they make 5 million if they are smart with their money.

                        One thing people need need to remember is Ben has to pay taxes. He is worth roughly 70 million.

                        Regardless, he isn't taking a beating these days and he misses 3 games a year and probably practices a fraction of the time due to his age. Why wouldn't he play out his contract when he has all these weapons around him?

                        Only way ye he retires is if we win a SB or he has a serious injury... or we gut the team and start over like the Browns.
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                        • pittpete
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                          • Aug 2008
                          • 6825

                          Exactly...Ben is signed until 2019 and is due to make 36 million dollars.
                          He's also due a 5 million $$$$ roster bonus in 2018 and 2019 so that could equate to 46 million.
                          Squid you have no idea what Ben has in the bank nor does anyone else...
                          You're really grasping for straws on this one
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                          • Mr.wizard
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                            • May 2014
                            • 6686

                            Originally posted by squidkid
                            its ignorant because i just told him my situation then he acts as if i would be walking away from 36 million the next couple years
                            why does anyone ever retire then? they are all walking away from more money than if they stayed working, yet everybody strives towards that day they can call it a career.
                            whether its a 30k or 5 million a year job, retirement is the goal.

                            that being said, if i hypothetically had over 100 million dollars in the bank, was tired of getting beat up, was tired of my boss, tired of the young coworkers antics and wasnt convinced positive changes were going to be made at the workplace, then maybe. it would also depend if my family was concerned about my well being and wanted me to retire.
                            Its not ignorant your acting like walking away from 100,000 is the same as walking away from 36 million, the question was was really rhetorical because I knew the answer.
                            The risk/reward is completely different, the life style factors are completely different, and your talking about generational type money that will support those lifestyles.

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                            • RuthlessBurgher
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                              • May 2008
                              • 33208

                              It's not just about how much more money Ben can make by continuing to play. It's also about how much of his signing bonus he already receivef that he'd have to pay back if he retired before his contract was up. I'll cut and paste this info that I posted earlier in this thread for those who missed it.


                              If Ben retires now, he would have to pay back $18.6 million worth of prorated signing bonus money already paid to him.

                              Or he can play in 2017 and make another $12 million in base salary. That's a $30.6 million difference.




                              If Ben retires next offseason, he would have to pay back $12.4 million worth of prorated signing bonus money already paid to him.

                              Or he can play in 2018 and make another $17 million in base salary. That's a $29.4 million difference.




                              If Ben retires two years from now, he would have to pay back $6.2 million worth of prorated signing bonus money already paid to him.

                              Or he can play in 2019 and make another $17 million in base salary. That's a $23.2 million difference.
                              Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                              Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                              We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                              We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                              • feltdizz
                                Legend
                                • May 2008
                                • 27531

                                "What time is OTA's coach?"

                                Thisnis what Ben said a few days after the AFCCG loss.
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