Ben Considering Retirement?

[Real Deal Steel]

It is completely absurd, you keep trying to create this narrative that the team is in shambles and the coaching staff is inept, but nothing could be further from the truth. We where one play away from the AFC championship game 2 years ago and we where in the AFC championship game last season. Also this BS that this coaching staff's game planning has been making Ben take a lot of punishment is simply false, Ben's protection has only improved under this coaching staff.

Who said anything about a shambles? Wiz, don't believe me, go listen to Ben's interview with Peter King. There is a reason that Ben said what he said. He's telling you that Tomlin has lost control of the team. He takes veiled shots at Tomlin all in the interview. Shambles is not the word I'd use but then again it's not all peaches and roses are you are trying to indicate.

Ben doesn't want to take the punishment anymore if there is no purpose. That's what his retirement talk is all about. You can't just pretend everything is okay when the Star of the team is telling and saying different. Ben had to go and get some cartilage shaved off his meniscus and trust me, that isn't any fun. I too have hurt my meniscus. And that was behind that line that protected him so well.

[RuthlessBurgher]

It is completely absurd, you keep trying to create this narrative that the team is in shambles and the coaching staff is inept, but nothing could be further from the truth. We where one play away from the AFC championship game 2 years ago and we where in the AFC championship game last season. Also this BS that this coaching staff's game planning has been making Ben take a lot of punishment is simply false, Ben's protection has only improved under this coaching staff.

But an All Pro WR took a Facebook video on his cell phone showing the team celebrating in the locker room after a playoff victory.

At a time when only network TV cameras are allowed to show a team celebrating in the locker room after a playoff victory!

Oh Nooooooooooo!!!!!

[Real Deal Steel]

But an All Pro WR took a Facebook video on his cell phone showing the team celebrating in the locker room after a playoff victory.

At a time when only network TV cameras are allowed to show a team celebrating in the locker room after a playoff victory!

Oh Nooooooooooo!!!!!

Yeah..no other player in the league is doing anything as stupid as that but the team isn't in a disaray. Oh and your assistant coach is punching out folks too.

[Real Deal Steel]

Can you imagine how we'd be roasting the Bengals if A.J. Green and one of their assistant coaches did with Porter and A.B. did? LOL

But because it's our team some are having a , " Nothing to see here" attitude. LOL

[RuthlessBurgher]

I'm actually sick of all this "I bet the patriots wouldn't do this" crap.

Bellichick wouldn't allow his defensive coordinator come off the plane wearing a t-shirt depicting the NFL Commissioner wearing a clown nose. He's all about professionalism and discipline, after all.

[Mr.wizard]

Can you imagine how we'd be roasting the Bengals if A.J. Green and one of their assistant coaches did with Porter and A.B. did? LOL

But because it's our team some are having a , " Nothing to see here" attitude. LOL

I wouldn't be roasting them at all, I think both things are irrelevant, but I will roast the Bengals for their 6-9-1 record because I believe that is actually relevant to how the team is being run.

[squidkid]

He is not walking away from 36 million dollars because he doesn't like defense or the discipline of the team that is absurd. These players are thinking of their future after football and having an extra 36 million in your pocket will go along way, not just for his future but his childrens future and their childrens future. Perfect example is Phillip Rivers, he howled that he would retire if they moved the team to LA, team moved to LA an Phillip moved right along with them.

well, im going to retire in the next 2 years making a modest state employee retirement. i have paid for my kids college education and will be able to hand them down a couple hundred thousand dollars in assets when i die. i think that i did my kids pretty good in that regard. my wife will receive my pension once i die. i dont feel the need to risk my life, risk injury or put myself thru the stress and anxiety associated with my job any longer than i have to. i would have to think bens family is set up better than mine right now if he never takes another snap.

[squidkid]

I agree with almost everything you said. The difference tho is Tomlin isn't Billicheat and Ben isn't Brady.

Ben can bitch all he wants to the press and give little side digs in interviews but it's HIS team. Ben got away with a lot because we had Hines, Farrior and Bettis in the locker room. Hell, Ben could also lead because he was playing lights out football at that time but now is when Ben needs to make his presence known in the locker room if he is serious about getting another ring.

AB is all talent and hard work but he isn't a leader. Bell isn't a leader for obvious reasons. Those guys are all lead by example ON the field but since Ben is doing all the hollow threats maybe he needs to step up and call guys out directly. If he has then kudos. But Ben can't be in Brady's league if he doesn't want to be the bad guy and put players in their place.

The same people who applaud Ben for not bitching out players in the sideline also applaud Brady for doing it. Which guy do we want in Pittsburgh? Just sayin

IMO Ben and Tomlin aren't built like those 2 *******s and I'm OK with it. I want us to win our way not the Patriots way because that way also involves winning at all cost which means cheating is an option.

I'm actually sick of all this "I bet the patriots wouldn't do this" crap.

F*ck those guys. F*ck that team.

whats "our way"?

[BradshawsHairdresser]

It is completely absurd, you keep trying to create this narrative that the team is in shambles and the coaching staff is inept, but nothing could be further from the truth. We where one play away from the AFC championship game 2 years ago and we where in the AFC championship game last season.

You're satisfied with getting close, good for you.

Yes, Ben's protection has improved, and no, the team isn't "in shambles," and no, the coaching staff isn't "inept" ... but they aren't where they need to be to truly compete for a Super Bowl win. My concern is that too many of the players and coaches on the team are content with what they've been doing and where it's gotten them, and aren't really looking to make the necessary changes.

[Northern_Blitz]

[QUOTE=papillon;687365]A couple things, you can never have enough financial capital, so I doubt he would think, I've made enough money so I'll retire. Walking away from the kind of money he can make would be shocking.[\Quote]

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[RuthlessBurgher]

whats "our way"?

See 1974, 1975, 1978, 1979, 2005, 2008.

[squidkid]

See 1974, 1975, 1978, 1979, 2005, 2008.

tell me, what did we do those years?

[BradshawsHairdresser]

well, im going to retire in the next 2 years making a modest state employee retirement. i have paid for my kids college education and will be able to hand them down a couple hundred thousand dollars in assets when i die. i think that i did my kids pretty good in that regard. my wife will receive my pension once i die. i dont feel the need to risk my life, risk injury or put myself thru the stress and anxiety associated with my job any longer than i have to. i would have to think bens family is set up better than mine right now if he never takes another snap.

If I figured right, Ben has earned over $158 million in his 13-year career. He certainly doesn't "need" any more money than that; his kids and even his grandkids should be set for life.

[Mr.wizard]

You're satisfied with getting close, good for you.

Yes, Ben's protection has improved, and no, the team isn't "in shambles," and no, the coaching staff isn't "inept" ... but they aren't where they need to be to truly compete for a Super Bowl win. My concern is that too many of the players and coaches on the team are content with what they've been doing and where it's gotten them, and aren't really looking to make the necessary changes.

It's not about being satisfied, it's about being realistic, the team is not perfect but it's definitely trending in the right direction. Also I disagree that we can't compete for a superbowl, we most certainly can compete and win a superbowl with the current cast.

[Mr.wizard]

well, im going to retire in the next 2 years making a modest state employee retirement. i have paid for my kids college education and will be able to hand them down a couple hundred thousand dollars in assets when i die. i think that i did my kids pretty good in that regard. my wife will receive my pension once i die. i dont feel the need to risk my life, risk injury or put myself thru the stress and anxiety associated with my job any longer than i have to. i would have to think bens family is set up better than mine right now if he never takes another snap.

Are you going leave 36 million dollars on the table?