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  • Oviedo
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 23824

    Originally posted by feltdizz

    I think ink a lot of fans have an unrealistic expectation for a backup of a 100 million dollar QB.

    Do ya think? Unrealistic expectations..say it isn't true.
    "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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    • Eich
      Legend
      • Jul 2010
      • 7044

      I'm satisfied with Landry as the backup. If he's satisfied being a career backup, I'd keep him here for years. He's young now and has performed well enough when needed.

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      • Real Deal Steel
        Banned
        • Jan 2017
        • 1229

        Landry Jones is terrible. Even as a backup. Against a crediable team, going forward, I don't think he can win us a game. And that's what you want a backup to be able to do.

        Now that Mettenberger has been here for a minute, I'd like to see where he's at in his ability to be a backup.

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        • RuthlessBurgher
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 33208

          Originally posted by Real Deal Steel
          Landry Jones is terrible. Even as a backup. Against a crediable team, going forward, I don't think he can win us a game. And that's what you want a backup to be able to do.

          Now that Mettenberger has been here for a minute, I'd like to see where he's at in his ability to be a backup.
          Landry was the QB of record 4 times in the last 2 seasons, and 3 of those games were against playoff teams (thus, credible teams) and his record is 2-2 (beating the 13-3 Cardinals in 2015, losing to the 11-5 Chiefs at Arrowhead in 2015, losing to the 14-2 Patriots in 2016, and beating the 1-15 Browns in 2016). For a backup QB, that's not terrible.
          Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

          Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

          We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

          We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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          • Eich
            Legend
            • Jul 2010
            • 7044

            Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
            Landry was the QB of record 4 times in the last 2 seasons, and 3 of those games were against playoff teams (thus, credible teams) and his record is 2-2 (beating the 13-3 Cardinals in 2015, losing to the 11-5 Chiefs at Arrowhead in 2015, losing to the 14-2 Patriots in 2016, and beating the 1-15 Browns in 2016). For a backup QB, that's not terrible.

            Agreed. And I don't think that Charlie Batch (in his good days with us) would have fared any better. Hell, we likely would have been 2-2 against the same teams with Ben at the helm.

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            • Eich
              Legend
              • Jul 2010
              • 7044

              Backup QB is one of the least of my worries. We need an upgraded defense. And we need all playmakers on offense healthy and off drug suspensions: Bell, AB, Martavis, Rogers even a healthy Coates. You give Landry a full arsenal of weapons on offense and a good defense and he'll win a game against a credible team IMO.

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              • Real Deal Steel
                Banned
                • Jan 2017
                • 1229

                Originally posted by Eich
                Agreed. And I don't think that Charlie Batch (in his good days with us) would have fared any better. Hell, we likely would have been 2-2 against the same teams with Ben at the helm.
                I respectfully disagree. Beating the Browns?...I'm not going to talk about the worst team in the league.

                The Cardinals game is where he threw a TD pass to Bryant but Ben did the heavy lifting before that.

                Now I agree that back up QB isn't as pressing as our other needs. But still, Landry is terrible. He can't start a game from the beginning and win a game for us against a crediable team. I haven't seen it yet.

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                • feltdizz
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 27532

                  Originally posted by Real Deal Steel
                  I respectfully disagree. Beating the Browns?...I'm not going to talk about the worst team in the league.

                  The Cardinals game is where he threw a TD pass to Bryant but Ben did the heavy lifting before that.

                  Now I agree that back up QB isn't as pressing as our other needs. But still, Landry is terrible. He can't start a game from the beginning and win a game for us against a crediable team. I haven't seen it yet.
                  Please name all the back up QB's who beat those teams he lost to.

                  Backup QB's aren't supposed to beat those teams. At most they keep you close enough for your stars to win those games.
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                  • Real Deal Steel
                    Banned
                    • Jan 2017
                    • 1229

                    Originally posted by feltdizz
                    Please name all the back up QB's who beat those teams he lost to.

                    Backup QB's aren't supposed to beat those teams. At most they keep you close enough for your stars to win those games.
                    If a backup QB can't keep your team competitive for a start or two for you, then what's the point? A back up QB is suppose to be able to credibly fill in for the starter for a game or two. Crediably being the key word. Landry Jones can't start a game and keep us competitive against a crediable team.

                    And that's all you want from a back up QB. I'm ready to see what Metenberger has to offer. We've seen enough of Jones to know what he offers.

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                    • feltdizz
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 27532

                      Originally posted by Real Deal Steel
                      If a backup QB can't keep your team competitive for a start or two for you, then what's the point? A back up QB is suppose to be able to credibly fill in for the starter for a game or two. Crediably being the key word. Landry Jones can't start a game and keep us competitive against a crediable team.

                      And that's all you want from a back up QB. I'm ready to see what Metenberger has to offer. We've seen enough of Jones to know what he offers.
                      We were competitive in every game with Landry Jones. What games where you watching?

                      It was 14 to 10 at the half vs NE
                      it was 9 to 3 at the half vs KC

                      just admit you have no idea what you are talking about.

                      You said Ben did the heavy lifting before Jones came into the AZ game. Vick was the QB in the AZ game and we were losing 10 to 6 when Jones entered the game.

                      Jones isn't anything special but he keeps us competitive in games that most backups would get blown out in.
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                      • The Man of Steel
                        Pro Bowler
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 2236

                        Steelers fans forget that we had Mike Tomczak as a backup for 7 seasons and statistically speaking he was much crappier than Jones. You just can't expect a lot from your backup QB.
                        Obviously the standard is the standard.

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                        • Real Deal Steel
                          Banned
                          • Jan 2017
                          • 1229

                          Originally posted by feltdizz
                          We were competitive in every game with Landry Jones. What games where you watching?

                          It was 14 to 10 at the half vs NE
                          it was 9 to 3 at the half vs KC

                          just admit you have no idea what you are talking about.

                          You said Ben did the heavy lifting before Jones came into the AZ game. Vick was the QB in the AZ game and we were losing 10 to 6 when Jones entered the game.

                          Jones isn't anything special but he keeps us competitive in games that most backups would get blown out in.

                          Such bitterness because someone doesn't agree with your position. We've all watched Jones. And I have stated my case with him. I don't agree with you and quit frankly think your flat out wrong about him. Jones is garbage. But him continuing to be a Steeler is just another bad decision in a laundry list of bad decisions. Hopefully Ben can play all 16 games.

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                          • feltdizz
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 27532

                            Bitter? You have post about fans taking it in the rear.

                            All I'm doing is calling you out on your misinformation.

                            Please list all all the problems with a Steeler team who lost to NE in their house in the AFCCG.
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                            • Slapstick
                              Rookie
                              • May 2008
                              • 0

                              Originally posted by Real Deal Steel
                              Such bitterness because someone doesn't agree with your position. We've all watched Jones. And I have stated my case with him. I don't agree with you and quit frankly think your flat out wrong about him. Jones is garbage. But him continuing to be a Steeler is just another bad decision in a laundry list of bad decisions. Hopefully Ben can play all 16 games.
                              Now, "bitterness" is how we refer to countering opinion with facts?

                              That's disappointing...but, denial in the face of factual information is the world we live in these days...
                              Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                              • feltdizz
                                Legend
                                • May 2008
                                • 27532

                                Originally posted by Slapstick
                                Now, "bitterness" is how we refer to countering opinion with facts?

                                That's disappointing...but, denial in the face of factual information is the world we live in these days...
                                yeah, they talk tough but as soon as you use facts all of a sudden they become super sensitive and get all up in their feelings.

                                All I did was prove he was wrong about Ben doing the heavy lifting before Landry entered the AZ game and post the halftime scores of the 2 games we lost.

                                Thats bitterness?

                                Smh
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