Giants and Eli - we're not playing the JV anymore

[pittpete]

You might be right about Mitchell. Maybe the correct term is slow to react.

The bengals lost the game because of a cheap shot artist and another 15 yarder by a different player for attacking a coach. Do YOU watch the games? Seems like you see something totally different from reality due to some type of bias against certain Steelers.

Mitchell doesn't deliver cheap shots and he only has a few penalties this year.

Where is your anger for Decastro's 8 or 9 holding penalties? Decastro actually ended Pounceys season but here you are complaining about how Mitchell or AB "might" lose us a game in the future.

Do do you watch the games or just yell at Mitchell for what he might do and scream at AB when he scores TD's?

Mitchell is a cheap shot artist also. Not as guilty as that idiot Burfict, but he's a guy that celebrates when he injures a player.
End of Browns game he layed out Pryor and he strutted around like a peacock.
Sorry i can't support garbage like that.

Speaking of DeCastro, yeah he's an idiot also with his holding penalties. You won't see me making any excuses for him.
I know what you're about Felt, you think i'll support the white player over the black player. I don't see color, i just call out bad play.
Mitchell is a mediocre safety with no ball hawking skills and is always a step late.
Antonio is awesome but is a bonehead also for his excessive celebration penalties. Stop making excuses for bad behavior.
No one player should be above the team.

[NorthCoast]

They are watching the game through yinzer goggles. Always waiting for players they don't like to mess up so they can go on a rant. Mitchell has been one play away from losing a game since he got off the plane in Pittsburgh. It's odd how analyst are praising Mitchell for a good hit and a few people in chat are screaming about how it will eventually cost us a game.

When it cost us a game then scream I told you so but until then it's pretty lame to constantly harp on it.

Illegal formations, pass interference, holding calls that nullify 1st downs... those have bigger impacts on the game than a hard hit.

The ironic thing is Mitchell hasn't cost the Steelers a game with his big hits, but he has cost the Steelers wins with his poor play at safety.

[BradshawsHairdresser]

I'm not making excuses for DeCastro. His penalties have hurt the offense. I've been plenty blunt about criticizing him. Relative to his salary, he may be the biggest underperformer on the team.

None of that excuses Mitchell's bonehead errors.

NorthCoast nailed it, when he said, "The ironic thing is Mitchell hasn't cost the Steelers a game with his big hits, but he has cost the Steelers wins with his poor play at safety."

I'm glad to see Mitchell has played better the past two weeks. IMO, the Steelers need him to elevate his game if they're to have any chance of making the playoffs. His several weeks of mediocre-to-poor play are a big part of the reason the defense has struggled so badly.

[bostonsteeler]

The ironic thing is Mitchell hasn't cost the Steelers a game with his big hits, but he has cost the Steelers wins with his poor play at safety.

Nothing ironic about it. My own theory is that MM compensates for his inability to get to the ball on time (whether it be due to slow reaction time or speed issues) with big hits.

The big hits don't really compensate. I'd trade half a dozen big hits for a better tackle on Wallace in the Balt game.

[NorthCoast]

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The big hits don't really compensate. I'd trade half a dozen big hits for a better tackle on Wallace in the Balt game.

I agree with this^.

Or a tackle on Elliot to prevent a touchdown.

[feltdizz]

Mitchell is a cheap shot artist also. Not as guilty as that idiot Burfict, but he's a guy that celebrates when he injures a player.
End of Browns game he layed out Pryor and he strutted around like a peacock.
Sorry i can't support garbage like that.

Speaking of DeCastro, yeah he's an idiot also with his holding penalties. You won't see me making any excuses for him.
I know what you're about Felt, you think i'll support the white player over the black player. I don't see color, i just call out bad play.
Mitchell is a mediocre safety with no ball hawking skills and is always a step late.
Antonio is awesome but is a bonehead also for his excessive celebration penalties. Stop making excuses for bad behavior.
No one player should be above the team.

The difference between you and me is I don't think any of these guys are idiots. I don't understand why you spend all this time trying to convince us some day Mitchell will cost us a game while other players commit more penalties that impact the game.

Mitchell didn't use a cheap shot to hit Pryor. It was a legal hit.

You are the annoyed my guy in the bar screaming at Bell after first downs and ranting about Mitchell being a cheap shot artist.

[feltdizz]

The ironic thing is Mitchell hasn't cost the Steelers a game with his big hits, but he has cost the Steelers wins with his poor play at safety.

While Mitchell has taken some bad angles I don't think any one player has cost us a game.

This isn't track or tennis.

[NorthCoast]

The Giants are not nearly as pathetic as the Browns on offense. If the Steelers defense continues to give up 3rd downs, this could be one of those games where it will be very uncomfortable watching for a Steelers fan. They've beaten some good teams this season.

(my attempt at getting the post back on subject)

[pittpete]

The difference between you and me is I don't think any of these guys are idiots. I don't understand why you spend all this time trying to convince us some day Mitchell will cost us a game while other players commit more penalties that impact the game.

Mitchell didn't use a cheap shot to hit Pryor. It was a legal hit.

You are the annoyed my guy in the bar screaming at Bell after first downs and ranting about Mitchell being a cheap shot artist.

Nope not annoyed by Bell or AB.
If they get penalties then yes i will be annoyed.
I also don't watch games in bars so i know what i'm talking about.
Never miss a play.
I use proof to argue my points unlike you. I don't really see it as wasting time while i'm lying on my couch watching the Sunday night game.
You love to flap your gums and call people names when they don't agree with you.
Mitchell is a cheap shot artist and laid Pryor out when the game meant nothing.
He strutted around while the guy laid there injured. I'd rather Mitchell pick the ball off then show up a second late and blast the guy.
You don't see Harrison do shlt like that do you?
Mitchell looked like a dam fool in that Ravens game. His angle on Elliots TD catch was horrendous. His tackling
Perhaps you were refilling your drink and didn't catch those.

[pittpete]

The Giants are not nearly as pathetic as the Browns on offense. If the Steelers defense continues to give up 3rd downs, this could be one of those games where it will be very uncomfortable watching for a Steelers fan. They've beaten some good teams this season.


(my attempt at getting the post back on subject)

Sorry NorthCoast....Going to the game this weekend so i really hope we step up on defense.

[Mr.wizard]

Nope not annoyed by Bell or AB.
If they get penalties then yes i will be annoyed.
I also don't watch games in bars so i know what i'm talking about.
Never miss a play.
I use proof to argue my points unlike you. I don't really see it as wasting time while i'm lying on my couch watching the Sunday night game.
You love to flap your gums and call people names when they don't agree with you.
Mitchell is a cheap shot artist and laid Pryor out when the game meant nothing.
He strutted around while the guy laid there injured. I'd rather Mitchell pick the ball off then show up a second late and blast the guy.
You don't see Harrison do shlt like that do you?
Mitchell looked like a dam fool in that Ravens game. His angle on Elliots TD catch was horrendous. His tackling
Perhaps you were refilling your drink and didn't catch those.

Mitchell's hit on Pryor was clean that's what he is supposed to do and that is a fact. Also he went up to Pryor during the stoppage to make sure he was ok, same thing with Hilton.

On the Elliot play, Mitchell was lined up on the opposite side of the field, he has to come across the field and try to catch an Olympic class sprinter with a wall of blockers.

The only valid gripe you have is the angle he took on Wallace's td, but we could take any guy on any team and find bad plays and missed opportunities.

[feltdizz]

Mitchell's hit on Pryor was clean that's what he is supposed to do and that is a fact. Also he went up to Pryor during the stoppage to make sure he was ok, same thing with Hilton.

On the Elliot play, Mitchell was lined up on the opposite side of the field, he has to come across the field and try to catch an Olympic class sprinter with a wall of blockers.

The only valid gripe you have is the angle he took on Wallace's td, but we could take any guy on any team and find bad plays and missed opportunities.

wait, I thought Pete watched all the games?

Players miss tackles and it's a valid gripe but most of the frustration Mitchell sounds personal. There was nothing cheap about his hit on Pryor.

some people may think I give Mitchell a pass but I just call it like I see it. Most of the gripes about what "might happen" are baseless. What actually happens is what people should complain about instead of projecting in hopes that some day it comes true so they can say "I told you so"

[steelsnis]

People seem to hate on Mitchell for being a loudmouth. Joey Porter is maybe the biggest loudmouth in the history of the Pittsburgh Steelers yet was generally beloved. Why is that? Is it because Porter was homegrown and Mitchell is still viewed as an outsider coming in from another organization? Why does he rub people the wrong way but Porter didn't?

I just don't get it. Mitchell is exactly what Steelers fans should love in a safety. He plays with incredible passion, plays hurt and crushes people with little concern for his own well-being. I love having him on the team and if Sean Davis can keep progressing, the back end of the defense will be a good one very soon.

[papillon]

People seem to hate on Mitchell for being a loudmouth. Joey Porter is maybe the biggest loudmouth in the history of the Pittsburgh Steelers yet was generally beloved. Why is that? Is it because Porter was homegrown and Mitchell is still viewed as an outsider coming in from another organization? Why does he rub people the wrong way but Porter didn't?

I just don't get it. Mitchell is exactly what Steelers fans should love in a safety. He plays with incredible passion, plays hurt and crushes people with little concern for his own well-being. I love having him on the team and if Sean Davis can keep progressing, the back end of the defense will be a good one very soon.

Production in all likelihood is the reason. Joey Porter was a productive OLB for the Steelers for many years; Mike Mitchell has yet to be anywhere near as productive a safety as Porter was an OLB. The secondary has been an issue now for a few years and while Mitchell isn't the sole culprit he is one of the players who has been part of a porous secondary.

Pappy

[steelsnis]

Production in all likelihood is the reason. Joey Porter was a productive OLB for the Steelers for many years; Mike Mitchell has yet to be anywhere near as productive a safety as Porter was an OLB. The secondary has been an issue now for a few years and while Mitchell isn't the sole culprit he is one of the players who has been part of a porous secondary.

Pappy

How productive is a safety in Pittsburgh generally going to be tho? Other than Polamalu who was a freak of nature. Ryan Clark's high in interceptions as a Steeler was 3 in 2009 and he had only 3 forced fumbles in his career w/Pittsburgh. This isn't a knock on Clark, I loved him as a player here, but last year Mitchell had 3 INT's and 2 forced fumbles.

The poor secondary now has more to do with having poor to average corners and not having a true stud like Polamalu in his prime (like Clark did). Pinning it on Mitchell is nuts, IMO