3 games in, thoughts on Butlers D?

[Oviedo]

Timmons put Knile Davis into the concussion protocol...

Don't you know he is over the hill

[Jigawatts]

said it in the game thread several times, VWill had a really good game last night and his tackling put hurts on a few players... and guess what, he didn't come up limping like you know who.

Vince Williams is a good football player, his only problem is he plays behind Ryan Shazier.

Which isn't even really much of a problem because he plays behind Ryan Shazier.

[RuthlessBurgher]

Don't you know he is over the hill

Replaceable carbon unit.

[NJ-STEELER]

When does "flex scheduling" start? If that were a possibility at that point of the season, I'm sure it would be a prime candidate (although CBS would certainly not want to just give it up, so it they had any veto power, they would exercise it to keep the game where it is).

Yeah. There's no way they are giving that one up.

Inthink flex led starts later in the year

[Oviedo]

Replaceable carbon unit.

They all are

[Slapstick]

Vince Williams is a good football player, his only problem is he plays behind Ryan Shazier.

Which isn't even really much of a problem because he plays behind Ryan Shazier.

They paid Vince in the offseason...it may be that the Steelers are preparing for life without Lawrence Timmons next year...

[SteelCrazy]

I didn't like the fact that we went conservative after the big lead, although I understand the reasons, I still would have kept the aggressive D all game long just because of last weeks performance.

[Mr.wizard]

Vince Williams is a good football player, his only problem is he plays behind Ryan Shazier.

Which isn't even really much of a problem because he plays behind Ryan Shazier.

Actually his problem is he is a liability in pass coverage. He can play the run and he can tackle , but he struggles in pass coverage.

[BradshawsHairdresser]

Actually his problem is he is a liability in pass coverage. He can play the run and he can tackle , but he struggles in pass coverage.

Yep. And hopefully, the Steelers don't put him in situations where he has to cover much. Good QBs will pick on him for sure.

[Slapstick]

Does he actually struggle in coverage? Or was he tagged with that back in college?

[Captain Lemming]

Does he actually struggle in coverage? Or was he tagged with that back in college?

Perhaps its not "strugle" but he sure cant compare to the other inside guys we have in front of him.

[NorthCoast]

Perhaps its not "strugle" but he sure cant compare to the other inside guys we have in front of him.

The difference is Williams makes the tackle... Shazier is wildly inconsistent with tackling.

[Slapstick]

Shazier has had 14 tackle games before...the difference is that, when healthy, Shazier is a real difference maker...Vince is a solid player...

I could see Vince playing the Buck in the base D and in goal line/short yardage situations alongside Shazier and coming off the field for the Nickel package...

[NorthCoast]

I was curious so I looked it up. Shazier has had 4 double digit tackle games in his young career. V Williams has had 1.

and Timmons = 28.

[phillyesq]

I was curious so I looked it up. Shazier has had 4 double digit tackle games in his young career. V Williams has had 1.

and Timmons = 28.

Double digit total tackles? Or solo tackles?