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  • RuthlessBurgher
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    • May 2008
    • 33208

    #46
    Brandon Boykin says he has no injury issues
    Posted by Mike Florio on June 8, 2016, 3:26 PM EDT


    Free-agent cornerback Brandon Boykin reportedly has a career-threatening hip injury. Boykin predictably says otherwise.

    Via Clarence E. Hill, Jr. of the Fort Worth Star-Telegram, Boykin claims that he has no injury issues. Boykin also said that Steelers defensive backs coach Carnell Lake started the rumor of Boykin having a hip problem.

    Whatever the reason, Boykin can’t find another job. Also, during his season in Pittsburgh, Boykin couldn’t find his way onto the field.

    Boykin added that his workout with the Cowboys went well, and that he hopes to sign with the team. At this point, Boykin presumably hopes to sign with any team.

    [URL]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/06/08/brandon-boykin-says-he-has-no-injury-issues/[/URL]
    Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

    Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

    We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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    • BradshawsHairdresser
      Legend
      • Dec 2008
      • 7056

      #47
      Boykin claims that he has no injury issues. Boykin also said that Steelers defensive backs coach Carnell Lake started the rumor of Boykin having a hip problem.
      If what Boykin claims is true, then why would Lake start such a rumor? Maybe he felt like he had to make some excuse as to why they played Blake over Boykin until the very end of the season?

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      • RuthlessBurgher
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 33208

        #48
        Carnell Lake not exactly backing down from Brandon Boykin comments
        Posted by Darin Gantt on June 10, 2016, 6:33 AM EDT


        Brandon Boykin’s trying to find work, so naturally he’s not happy about being characterized as having a degenerative injury.

        But after the journeyman cornerback fired back at Steelers assistant coach Carnell Lake for spreading rumors about his condition, Lake politely stood by his earlier claims that Boykin had a hip problem.

        The story began with Lake telling a group of fans at a fantasy football event that Boykin had a hip problem. That message got picked up by the mainstream media, and combined with Boykin’s sheer number of teams in the last year (three, plus multiple workouts), there was some easy dot-connecting.

        Via Chris Adamski of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, Lake didn’t back down from his earlier assessment when asked Thursday.

        “Well, I’m going to leave it like I left it,” Lake said. “I’m going to leave all that at the fantasy football camp and you guys can take it and go with it and do what you want with it. But it was what it was. . . .

        “I made some comments that I had at fantasy camp and I’m not going to go back on that. I wish Boykin all the best; he helped us when we needed him, and I wish him the best in his career.”

        Boykin’s hoping to be signed by the Cowboys, and to prove to NFL teams he’s well enough to help, after being traded by the Eagles, allowed to walk by the Steelers and signed-and-cut by the Panthers.

        There may be more to the last stop, as there are suggestions that the comp pick formula came into play in his release by the Panthers, but the reality is, Boykin’s struggling to find work at the moment.

        [URL]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/06/10/carnell-lake-not-exactly-backing-down-from-brandon-boykin-comments/[/URL]
        Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

        Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

        We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

        We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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        • feltdizz
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 27633

          #49
          Lake was wrong for this..

          even with hip problems he was head and shoulders above Blake.
          Steelers 27
          Rats 16

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          • Captain Lemming
            Legend
            • Jun 2008
            • 16127

            #50
            Originally posted by Eddie Spaghetti
            Please point out where i said anything about being "dominant", hell lets try and be average. Reaching back far enough to bring lewis into the picture shows how weak your stance is. Its a results oriented business as MT likes to point out.

            Can you name one player lake has developed? Granted he hasnt had alot of high draft picks, but other teams seem to get by. How about all the communication issues we were having late into the season last year. Is that not able to be attributed to coaching? Lake has done an average to poor job, IMO and should be on the hot seat.
            Lake has been given no talent TO DEVELOP. He has been given other people's cut players and has to start them. We actually traded for Boykin and people thought the career backup was the answer and when he finally got in he looked good enough under Lake that Carolina stole him from us. But our season ending starter, WHO LOOKED PRETTY GOOD WITH US not only can't make the Carolina roster, he CANT MAKE A ROSTER PERIOD thus far.

            Brice McCain
            Antoine Blake
            William Gay
            Brandon Boykin


            All guys who were OUR STARTERS that were cut by other teams.

            UNDER LAKE, McCain and Blake LOOKED good enough that other teams STUPIDLY stole them away as free agents only to cut them because Lake works with STARTERS THAT ARE SO BAD HAVE TROUBLE MAKING A ROSTER elsewhere.

            Reason why I go back to Lewis? It was the last time we had an AVERAGE corner who actually can start on another team. We had the NUMBER ONE PASS DEFENSE, with an aging Ike and a "decent" legit starter in Lewis.

            Since then Lake has had absolute GARBAGE to work with.

            If position coaches can work magic with anyone, lets just pay position coaches like head coaches, don't pay players big bucks, and "coach up" cheap player cut from other teams AT EVERY POSITION.
            Last edited by Captain Lemming; 06-11-2016, 02:57 AM.
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            • Steelerphile
              Pro Bowler
              • Dec 2008
              • 1198

              #51
              I will argue that Lake did have some effect on developing Antwon Blake. The people who hate him will not want to listen to this. Blake was undrafted. He's short and his arms are short, so he is not your prototype for the corner, where you would more covet that player with length. But he's fast and he's tough.

              People want to talk about what a bad player he is. Let's look at his season a little. 76 total tackles. 1 sack, 1 forced fumble, 2 interceptions in the regular season. 1 in the postseason so a total of three. Led the team in that department. 70 yard pick six in the SD game. That was a game changing play. Blake won that game. 14 passes defensed. Total return yards after interception : 147. Averaged 49 yards per return on interceptions. Played with a broken hand, but still went out and played hard.

              Now there is the icon Ike Taylor. From 2005 when Ike became a starter to 2014 when he retired. 10 seasons. Ike is listed with 126 passes defensed. So the icon averaged 12.6 passes defensed a season. less than Blake who had 14. Ike had a total of 14 interceptions in 12 seasons Averaged less than 2 ints per season. Less than Blake did. Ike had 151 int return yards in his entire career. Averaged about 10.7 yards a pick. Blake almost matched Ike's return yards this season. Of the balls that landed in Blake's hands, this season, he managed to corral them and make the int. Can't say that for Ike. Several would be ints clanged off his mitts.

              So they would have done so much better if Boykin would have only played. Blake won the SD game. Can't guarantee Boykin makes that same play. They went 10-6 and went to the second round of the playoffs. That was without Big Ben for four complete games and parts of two others. Boykin would not have made a difference for the better. Did they lose the Denver game because of Blake? No he made a sweet int and 35 yard return. The were in good position until the Toussaint fumble. I think he's somewhat liked on the board. The secondary gave up too much yardage but the Steelers ranked much higher in the points allowed category, which is ultimately the most important stat.

              So everybody hates Blake. He sorted through other offers before signing a nice contract with the Titans. I think organizations like a player who can make a pick 6 game winning play or the other returns he made. They also like a tough aggressive player, because football is a tough sport.
              He'll play for Tennessee. He probably won't start because he is smallish and really shouldn't be the starter. But he's get a chance to display his speed and hitting ability and possibly make another game changing int.

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              • Shoe
                Hall of Famer
                • May 2008
                • 4044

                #52
                Don't forget Cockrell. He's emerged as a keeper this past season. I'll reserve judgement on Lake until I see this current crop develop or not. He's got plenty of talent there now (Golson, Davis, Burns).
                I wasn't hired for my disposition.

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                • BradshawsHairdresser
                  Legend
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 7056

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Steelerphile
                  I will argue that Lake did have some effect on developing Antwon Blake. The people who hate him will not want to listen to this. Blake was undrafted. He's short and his arms are short, so he is not your prototype for the corner, where you would more covet that player with length. But he's fast and he's tough.

                  People want to talk about what a bad player he is. Let's look at his season a little. 76 total tackles. 1 sack, 1 forced fumble, 2 interceptions in the regular season. 1 in the postseason so a total of three. Led the team in that department. 70 yard pick six in the SD game. That was a game changing play. Blake won that game. 14 passes defensed. Total return yards after interception : 147. Averaged 49 yards per return on interceptions. Played with a broken hand, but still went out and played hard.

                  Now there is the icon Ike Taylor. From 2005 when Ike became a starter to 2014 when he retired. 10 seasons. Ike is listed with 126 passes defensed. So the icon averaged 12.6 passes defensed a season. less than Blake who had 14. Ike had a total of 14 interceptions in 12 seasons Averaged less than 2 ints per season. Less than Blake did. Ike had 151 int return yards in his entire career. Averaged about 10.7 yards a pick. Blake almost matched Ike's return yards this season. Of the balls that landed in Blake's hands, this season, he managed to corral them and make the int. Can't say that for Ike. Several would be ints clanged off his mitts.

                  So they would have done so much better if Boykin would have only played. Blake won the SD game. Can't guarantee Boykin makes that same play. They went 10-6 and went to the second round of the playoffs. That was without Big Ben for four complete games and parts of two others. Boykin would not have made a difference for the better. Did they lose the Denver game because of Blake? No he made a sweet int and 35 yard return. The were in good position until the Toussaint fumble. I think he's somewhat liked on the board. The secondary gave up too much yardage but the Steelers ranked much higher in the points allowed category, which is ultimately the most important stat.

                  So everybody hates Blake. He sorted through other offers before signing a nice contract with the Titans. I think organizations like a player who can make a pick 6 game winning play or the other returns he made. They also like a tough aggressive player, because football is a tough sport.
                  He'll play for Tennessee. He probably won't start because he is smallish and really shouldn't be the starter. But he's get a chance to display his speed and hitting ability and possibly make another game changing int.
                  Wow. Didn't realize Blake was practically a Pro-Bowler. With those credentials, the Steelers were foolish to let him leave. They'll probably lose several games and miss the playoffs because they don't have him back there anymore. Guess the rest of the secondary must have really been crap last year, since they played so poorly with such a stud at CB.

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                  • Slapstick
                    Rookie
                    • May 2008
                    • 0

                    #54
                    Originally posted by BradshawsHairdresser
                    Wow. Didn't realize Blake was practically a Pro-Bowler. With those credentials, the Steelers were foolish to let him leave. They'll probably lose several games and miss the playoffs because they don't have him back there anymore. Guess the rest of the secondary must have really been crap last year, since they played so poorly with such a stud at CB.
                    Perhaps you missed the point...
                    Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                    • SteelCrazy
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                      • Aug 2008
                      • 5063

                      #55
                      Ike vs Blake, the big difference????

                      Ike makes plays consistently and Blake makes plays occasionally.....huge difference.....silly comparison
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                      3. ILB
                      4. S
                      5. CB
                      6. ILB
                      7. S

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                      • Captain Lemming
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                        • Jun 2008
                        • 16127

                        #56
                        Originally posted by SteelCrazy
                        Ike vs Blake, the big difference????

                        Ike makes plays consistently and Blake makes plays occasionally.....huge difference.....silly comparison
                        Actually neither Ike nor Blake are consistent play "makers". But Ike in his prime was WORLDS better than Blake.
                        The difference between Ike and Blake is that against Blake RECEIVERS made plays consistently, Against Ike RECEIVERS were usually ineffective and made plays occasionally.

                        When at his best Ike was an elite level play "preventer". He FREQUENTLY made elite receivers into non-factors without making any plays because his receiver was so covered the QB did not throw his way.
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                        • Captain Lemming
                          Legend
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 16127

                          #57
                          Originally posted by Captain Lemming
                          Actually neither Ike nor Blake are consistent play "makers". But Ike in his prime was WORLDS better than Blake.
                          The difference between Ike and Blake is that against Blake RECEIVERS made plays consistently, Against Ike RECEIVERS were usually ineffective and made plays occasionally.

                          When at his best Ike was an elite level play "preventer". He FREQUENTLY made elite receivers into non-factors without making any plays because his receiver was so covered the QB did not throw his way.
                          Example: Chad Johnson never had a single hundred yard game and had a grand total of ONE touchdown in the TWELVE games he had against the Steelers once Ike became a starter in 2005.
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                          In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

                          TCFCLTC-
                          The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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                          • RuthlessBurgher
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 33208

                            #58
                            By Zac Jackson
                            July 27, 2016, 8:19 PM EDT
                            Boykin, Daniels sign with Bears

                            The Bears signed cornerback Brandon Boykin and wide receiver B.J. Daniels on Wednesday.

                            Boykin played for the Steelers last season after being traded by the Eagles. The Panthers signed Boykin in March but cut him in May. He’s since worked out for several teams and has denied that injury issues have threatened his career.

                            Daniels has been both a quarterback and a wide receiver in his NFL career. A seventh-round pick of the 49ers in 2013, Daniels played in eight games last year — two with the Texans and six with the Seahawks — as a backup wide receiver, gadget player and special teamer. The Texans waived him in April, and the Giants waived him in June.

                            The moves bring the Bears’ roster to the preseason max of 90 players.
                            Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                            Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                            We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                            We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                            • RuthlessBurgher
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 33208

                              #59
                              By Michael David Smith
                              August 3, 2016, 9:09 PM EDT
                              Bears put Brandon Boykin on injured reserve

                              Brandon Boykin’s strange year in the NFL has come to an end.

                              The Bears announced this evening that Boykin has been placed on injured reserve.

                              That news comes as a surprise. Boykin didn’t practice today with a pectoral injury, and that injury was apparently more serious than it first appeared. Boykin insisted in June that he was healthy and that talk of a hip injury was false.

                              The Bears were Boykin’s fourth team in a year: Last season, he was traded from the Eagles to the Steelers in training camp. He hit free agency in March, signed with the Panthers, but was then cut by the Panthers two months later. He then spent a month without an NFL home before signing with the Bears last week. Now he’s done playing for the Bears before he started.

                              Chicago signed defensive back Joel Ross to take Boykin’s place on the 90-player roster.
                              Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                              Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                              We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                              We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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