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  • NorthCoast
    Legend
    • Sep 2008
    • 26636

    Originally posted by RobinCole
    Bell is a difference maker...when he plays.

    See how this works?
    Uh... care to expound on this?? are you suggesting that Shazier = Bell?

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    • RobinCole
      Pro Bowler
      • Apr 2014
      • 1358

      I suggested nothing. I made a statement. The same statement you made about Shazier is equally applicable to Bell. They are both difference makers...when they play.
      Last edited by RobinCole; 12-22-2015, 09:55 AM.

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      • Shawn
        Legend
        • Mar 2008
        • 15131

        Originally posted by NorthCoast
        As we continue to say, Shazier is a difference-maker when he plays. I've said before, he is the Steelers' Sean Lee.I think most posters would love to see Shazier in every game, making these plays. It just hasn't happened for him yet.

        Question is, if he gets bigger and stronger, will it take away his best traits?
        I think this 100% correct. No one can deny Shazier is uber talented. The questions surrounding his toughness start with coaches and teammates. I understand the frustration. Fans understand the frustration. The only way Shazier can avoid the critical comments by is to practice and play.
        Trolls are people too.

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        • RuthlessBurgher
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 33208

          Originally posted by Shawn
          The only way Shazier can avoid the critical comments by is to practice and play.
          And that's exactly what the man is doing. I've noticed.
          Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

          Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

          We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

          We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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          • Oviedo
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 23824

            Originally posted by Shawn
            I think this 100% correct. No one can deny Shazier is uber talented. The questions surrounding his toughness start with coaches and teammates. I understand the frustration. Fans understand the frustration. The only way Shazier can avoid the critical comments by is to practice and play.
            He is playing very well. Unfortunately some are losing their minds over process not outcome
            "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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            • papillon
              Legend
              • Mar 2008
              • 11340

              Originally posted by Oviedo
              He is playing very well. Unfortunately some are losing their minds over process not outcome
              He wasn't their guy in the draft so, of course, if he misses a practice then he's made of glass, if misses a tackle he was over drafted, if he gets beat deep by the best TE in football he's slow and can't cover, if he gets blocked he's too weak, etc., etc., etc. and it goes on and on. It's the same with many other players, even Ben, to some he's still a frat boy, these guys and gals would rather see a player struggle so it fits their narrative of him rather than see him actually become a good player.

              Pappy
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              The 2025 Pittsburgh Steeler draft

              1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
              3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
              3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
              4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
              5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
              7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia

              "Football is a physical game, well, it used to be anyways" - Mel Blount

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              • Shawn
                Legend
                • Mar 2008
                • 15131

                Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                And that's exactly what the man is doing. I've noticed.
                Suiting up for 9 games with a total of 24 tackles during his rookie campaign certainly got the ball rolling on the made of glass stigma. Missing 4 games this year hasn't helped that as well. And when coaches and players are saying things about it...maybe there is some validity. I understand some fans desire to bury their head in the sand on this one, but Shazier has some learning to do when it comes to playing through pain. His talent is not what is being questioned here. It's his toughness.
                Trolls are people too.

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                • Shawn
                  Legend
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 15131

                  Originally posted by papillon
                  He wasn't their guy in the draft so, of course, if he misses a practice then he's made of glass, if misses a tackle he was over drafted, if he gets beat deep by the best TE in football he's slow and can't cover, if he gets blocked he's too weak, etc., etc., etc. and it goes on and on. It's the same with many other players, even Ben, to some he's still a frat boy, these guys and gals would rather see a player struggle so it fits their narrative of him rather than see him actually become a good player.

                  Pappy
                  I think speculating on fans motivations for comments is short sighted at best, arrogant at worst. You have no idea what runs through fans minds for the criticisms they may have of a particular player. With Shazier however the criticism is founded in fact and supported by quotes of Steeler players and staff. We can run through the facts and quotes if you wish.
                  Trolls are people too.

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                  • feltdizz
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 27532

                    Originally posted by Oviedo
                    He is playing very well. Unfortunately some are losing their minds over process not outcome
                    nah, I think it's due to missing games his first 2 seasons.

                    he definitely had some great games when healthy but unfortunately it's like Gilbert his first year with his tendency to get injured every other game.
                    Steelers 27
                    Rats 16

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                    • Oviedo
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 23824

                      Originally posted by papillon
                      He wasn't their guy in the draft so, of course, if he misses a practice then he's made of glass, if misses a tackle he was over drafted, if he gets beat deep by the best TE in football he's slow and can't cover, if he gets blocked he's too weak, etc., etc., etc. and it goes on and on. It's the same with many other players, even Ben, to some he's still a frat boy, these guys and gals would rather see a player struggle so it fits their narrative of him rather than see him actually become a good player.

                      Pappy
                      Sounds pretty right on to me. Shazier is the least of our problems on the defense.
                      "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                      • Oviedo
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 23824

                        Originally posted by feltdizz
                        nah, I think it's due to missing games his first 2 seasons.

                        he definitely had some great games when healthy but unfortunately it's like Gilbert his first year with his tendency to get injured every other game.
                        Would that be the Gilbert who is playing as well as any RT in the league right now?
                        "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                        • feltdizz
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 27532

                          Originally posted by Oviedo
                          Would that be the Gilbert who is playing as well as any RT in the league right now?
                          yes.

                          You see, when a player stops getting injured every other game fans tend to stop complaining about it.
                          Steelers 27
                          Rats 16

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                          • Shawn
                            Legend
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 15131

                            Originally posted by feltdizz
                            yes.

                            You see, when a player stops getting injured every other game fans tend to stop complaining about it.
                            lol...exactly.
                            Trolls are people too.

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                            • papillon
                              Legend
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 11340

                              Originally posted by Oviedo
                              Sounds pretty right on to me. Shazier is the least of our problems on the defense.
                              Be careful you might be short-sighted and arrogant.

                              Pappy
                              sigpic

                              The 2025 Pittsburgh Steeler draft

                              1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
                              3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
                              3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
                              4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
                              5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
                              7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia

                              "Football is a physical game, well, it used to be anyways" - Mel Blount

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                              • Shawn
                                Legend
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 15131

                                Originally posted by papillon
                                Be careful you might be short-sighted and arrogant.

                                Pappy
                                He would only be accused of that if he chose to read peoples minds.
                                Trolls are people too.

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