Shane Ray busted for pot

[K Train]

fwiw I believe the Ray is the nicer, more well spoken kid. Heard he is pretty impressive in the meetings

[RuthlessBurgher]

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Mike Mayock on Ray/Gregory: I think we have a good chance to see the both of them fall out of the 1st round. Just a dumb decision by Shane.


As dumb as these two are, if the Steelers are comfortable enough after their meetings with them, I'd grab one of these guys in the first. I'd even grab one in the first, one in the second, and then spend the rest of the draft working on the secondary.

1. OLB Randy Gregory
2. OLB Shane Ray
3. CB Alex Carter
4. FS Derron Smith
5. CB Charles Gaines
6. WR Josh Harper
6c. TE Nick Boyle
7. RB John Crockett

[phillyesq]

1. OLB Randy Gregory
2. OLB Shane Ray
3. CB Alex Carter

You could really just stop right there. If the draft went down like that, it's all gravy from that point.

[K Train]

You could really just stop right there. If the draft went down like that, it's all gravy from that point.

lol yeah...see you in santa clara

[K Train]

Gaines was ranked higher earlier in the process, but after further review he is hot garbage

[Rara]

Will the Steelers actually take him now IF he drops to them, despite this incident now that happened yesterday? It's been rumored that he is already heading into the Substance Abuse program..and he isn't drafted, yet.

[hawaiiansteel]

Will the Steelers actually take him now IF he drops to them, despite this incident now that happened yesterday? It's been rumored that he is already heading into the Substance Abuse program..and he isn't drafted, yet.

yes, Ray is automatically entered into Phase 1 and hasn't played a down yet...

[7upnext]

Your post made no sense. Either you think the Steelers should have no problem drafting him or they should. Either way, posting ridiculous comments about Tomlin doing the very thing you want him to do makes no damn sense.

What I think happened with you is that you might be in the Tomlin fanclub and my post rubbed you the wrong way...when in fact I include Cowher and the Steelers organization when talking about how they don't care about character. I am not for drafting players with character issues. However, starting with Ben (under BC) and now through Tomlin...the teams seems to look the other way with character issues. All I was saying is let's not pretend we care about character when our recent history shows we really don't. So take the best player on the board and coach him up. I hear a lot of talk here and elsewhere that you just can't take the chance blah blah blah and these same people defend Bell and Ben so it's hypocritical.

[Slapstick]

No, that isn't what happened. But, your explanation provided some clarification to the thoughts you expressed, which were in dire need of said clarification.

I don't care if you like, don't like, love, hate, etc., Tomlin or the Steelers. But, if you post on a public forum, I will also offer my opinion.

Now, I understand what you were trying to say. Thank you.

[Shawn]

Can you imagine getting Ray and Gregory?

[feltdizz]

fwiw I believe the Ray is the nicer, more well spoken kid. Heard he is pretty impressive in the meetings

I don't care about how well he speaks in meetings. Can he ball out on the field?

[K Train]

I don't care about how well he speaks in meetings. Can he ball out on the field?

Well WE dont care, why the hell would we care? I was more saying Tomlin has met with both and for what it is worth Ray is probably the more impressive in person.

Nothing to do with their on field ability, but Ive heard Gregory is kind of a dick. All hearsay though

[Slapstick]

Can you imagine getting Ray and Gregory?

I don't think I would want both.

Spending your two premium picks on two different players with the same against the rules habit?

Ugh...

[SteelerOfDeVille]

Nothing to do with their on field ability, but Ive heard Gregory is kind of a dick. All hearsay though

I don't necessarily see that as a negative...

[K Train]

I don't necessarily see that as a negative...

Neither do I, but I am pretty sure everyone has taken my comment out of context so far lol

I am saying the front office looking at both these players as a premium talent, at the same position, with a similar grade, and one character flag risk with the same substance maybe it comes down to who you like better and who you think its the harder worker, more dedicated on and off the field and I believe that to be ray. He plays harder than gregory. Hes both high effort with an outstanding pass rush skill set.

Again, this is why i say "for what its worth" and "all hearsay" lol