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  • hawaiiansteel
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 35648

    Ike Taylor Has High Expectations For Jarvis Jones In 2015

    [URL]http://www.steelersdepot.com/2015/05/ike-taylor-has-high-expectations-for-jarvis-jones-in-2015/[/URL]

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    • RuthlessBurgher
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 33208

      Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
      Ike Taylor Has High Expectations For Jarvis Jones In 2015

      [URL]http://www.steelersdepot.com/2015/05/ike-taylor-has-high-expectations-for-jarvis-jones-in-2015/[/URL]
      The part of that article I like best was the snippet about Ike being a coaching intern for us during the OTA practices. That's awesome. If he truly catches the coaching bug and eventually becomes a full time coach (you know he's 100% committed to football and never wanted to leave), then I'd love to see the DB responsibilities split so that Lake can focus on the safeties while Ike focuses on the corners just like Porter focuses on the OLB's while Olsavsky focuses on the ILB's. Then, after coach Mitchell retires, all they would need to do would be to hire Casey Hampton or Chris Hoke to coach the NT's and Aaron Smith or Brett Keisel to coach the DE's and the transformation would be complete.
      Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

      Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

      We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

      We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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      • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 10281

        Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
        The part of that article I like best was the snippet about Ike being a coaching intern for us during the OTA practices. That's awesome. If he truly catches the coaching bug and eventually becomes a full time coach (you know he's 100% committed to football and never wanted to leave), then I'd love to see the DB responsibilities split so that Lake can focus on the safeties while Ike focuses on the corners just like Porter focuses on the OLB's while Olsavsky focuses on the ILB's. Then, after coach Mitchell retires, all they would need to do would be to hire Casey Hampton or Chris Hoke to coach the NT's and Aaron Smith or Brett Keisel to coach the DE's and the transformation would be complete.
        Maybe they can hire Orpheus Roye to coach. I just always liked saying the name: Orpheus Roye
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        • Discipline of Steel
          Hall of Famer
          • Aug 2008
          • 3882

          Originally posted by steeler_fan_in_t.o.
          Maybe they can hire Orpheus Roye to coach. I just always liked saying the name: Orpheus Roye
          Yancey Thigpen and Limas Sweed could coach receivers and Bad Ma'afala could jump in with the RBs.
          On the other hand, John L. Williams is too plain to be a Steelers alumni coach...
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          • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 10281

            Originally posted by Discipline of Steel
            Yancey Thigpen and Limas Sweed could coach receivers and Bad Ma'afala could jump in with the RBs.
            On the other hand, John L. Williams is too plain to be a Steelers alumni coach...
            Agreed on all counts except Limas Sweed. I think that the team should have armed guards posted at each entrance to ensure that Limas Sweed can never be in contact with any Steelers receiver. Period!

            Can we replace him with Weegie Thompson?
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            • Discipline of Steel
              Hall of Famer
              • Aug 2008
              • 3882

              Originally posted by steeler_fan_in_t.o.
              Agreed on all counts except Limas Sweed. I think that the team should have armed guards posted at each entrance to ensure that Limas Sweed can never be in contact with any Steelers receiver. Period!

              Can we replace him with Weegie Thompson?
              Possibly but he only has one uncommon name and one regular sounding one. Let use Antwaan Randle El instead....much better player than Sweed and adds a slash dimension for our latest WR acquisition, Devin Gardner
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              • RuthlessBurgher
                Legend
                • May 2008
                • 33208

                Harrison: 'You can’t play it forever'

                Posted 3 hours ago

                Teresa Varley Steelers.com

                LB James Harrison knows change is inevitable.

                And then there were four. That’s it. Only four players remain on the Steelers roster who are the proud owners of two Steelers Super Bowl rings – James Harrison, Heath Miller, Ben Roethlisberger, and Greg Warren, all who were part of the Super Bowl XL and XLIII championship teams.

                “That two ring group is getting real small,” said Harrison. “It’s a young man’s game. You can’t play it forever. You have to be grateful for the time that you get and move on from there.”

                Gone from that era of two Super Bowl rings are Troy Polamalu and Ike Taylor, who both retired this offseason, and Brett Keisel who was released. It’s a new look, a younger look, but one Harrison said you just have to adjust to.

                “It will be a little different, but that is part of the game,” said Harrison, who came out of a short retirement to play in 2014. “It’s unfortunate to see them go, but I am grateful I had them here that long and watched them play and played with them. It’s a young man’s game. When it’s time to go you have to be ready to make that transition.”

                Harrison said that each year there are changes to the makeup of the defense and the team overall, and this year is no different.

                “Each year is a new era because you have a new set of guys,” said Harrison. “No defense comes in with the same group of guys year in and year out from every position. I think each year is a new group, new era.”

                [URL]http://www.steelers.com/news/article-1/Harrison-You-can’t-play-it-forever/abd69c1d-4fd3-47cd-9fec-4e1c2a39e7dd[/URL]
                Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 10281

                  “That two ring group is getting real small,”
                  By this time next year I wouldn't be surprised if the group is down to one.
                  http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...to_Mike/to.jpg

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                  • hawaiiansteel
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 35648

                    HARRISON LEADING YOUNGSTERS TO WATER

                    Jim Wexell
                    Publisher SteelCityInsider.net
                    May 27, 2015



                    But will they drink it? That's the question the Steelers' defensive leader asks as a new culture makes its way in a new era.

                    PITTSBURGH -- James Harrison started only four games last season so he wasn't all that surprised to find himself on the second team at the start of spring practices with the Pittsburgh Steelers yesterday.

                    "Not starting really isn't an issue for me," said the 37-year-old linebacker. "I came in not starting last year, so it is what it is. I'll just put it like that."

                    Harrison did play well last season, and he finished strong, starting the final two games of the regular season and then the playoff game. It convinced him to return for another season, and this time he's back as the unquestioned leader of a defense that really needs leadership.

                    A group that had led the NFL in total defense five times in the previous 10 years had fallen to 18th last season. And now only Harrison remains from the defensive members who won two championships during that span.

                    "Yeahhhh," Harrison said with a long sigh. "That two-ring group is getting really small. It's a young man's game. You can't play it forever; no one can. So you're grateful for the time that you get and move on from there."

                    Part of moving on for Harrison involves paying back as a leader. The rest of the linebackers followed Harrison to Arizona for his annual March workout session.

                    "It's just more of an opportunity to get 'em out there working with someone that I've worked with for years," Harrison said. "I know the results he's going to get from the work that they're gonna put in. Right now they're stronger, they're faster."

                    "We had seven linebackers out there," said Jarvis Jones. "Everybody wanted to go. Everybody understands having James around here is great for all of us, to be able to follow him and see the things he's doing, and be mentored by him. He's a great person to follow, especially when you're trying to get to where he's at."

                    Jones, the No. 1 draft pick in 2013, laughed when he was asked if he's now bigger and stronger.

                    "I'm at a good weight," Jones said. "I feel like I got stronger."

                    Why did he laugh at the question?

                    "They've asked me that question two years in a row," Jones said. "I feel good. My coaches think I'm at a good weight, and I feel good with it. We've still got a long time before the season starts, so who knows."

                    Jones looks stronger than he did a year ago, when he offered many more details than he did Tuesday. He's obviously in more of an action-first, talk-later mode, and besides, "We still have so much to do." Jones said. "I'm excited."

                    The group will take a second trip to see Harrison's guru in Arizona at the end of minicamp. And this time the travel party will include another first-round draft pick, the latest, Bud Dupree.

                    "He seems like he wants to do the work," Harrison said of the rookie pass-rusher. "Now he just has to do it."

                    Harrison won't praise anyone until he watches him work, but Dupree has been given a locker just around the bend from Harrison's, so the lion will be able to keep an eye on the cub at all times throughout the work day.

                    Not that Harrison will do that, or even waste time worrying about anyone who doesn't have the self-motivation required to succeed in the NFL.

                    "I'm just leading them to the water," Harrison said. "It's up to them to drink."

                    Will they drink? Troy Polamalu had some reservations upon his retirement. Polamalu believes the Steelers have enough talent to win, but worried about the "new culture" that's replaced a group which finished out of the NFL's top five defenses only one time from 2004-2012. Harrison said he understands Polamalu's concerns.

                    "It's definitely a new culture," Harrison said. "It's a different era. We came in and it was grind and grind and whatever your role is that's your role, but you're still hungry to advance your role. It's just a different era now."

                    Ryan Shazier, for instance, was placed on the first team on the first day of spring practices last year, and then had a disappointing rookie year in which injuries and ineffectiveness caused him to lose his job to Sean Spence.


                    But Shazier put on "eight or 10 pounds" while in Arizona and appears to have regained his starting inside position. But this year's No. 1 pick, Dupree, is buried on the current depth chart behind Jones, Arthur Moats and Harrison, the may become the most decorated team leader to not hold down a starting position since Jerome Bettis led the Steelers to a title off the bench in 2005.

                    Does Harrison, the classic lone wolf, mind that such a leadership role has been thrust upon him by the coaching staff?

                    "That's nothing more than what's been on my plate in previous years, to be honest with you," Harrison said. "It's just they're being more vocal about it than they were before.

                    "I'm doing the same things I was doing before. It's just now we have a younger group and they're ready to listen and take in everything they can get."

                    Harrison spoke after practice as sweat streamed down his face. It was reminiscent of last September when he was called in off the couch and struggled to get into shape. The difference this year is that Harrison has since burned off the fat and his breathing is far more controlled. It's obvious that he felt much better than he did following his first workout last year.

                    "Whoaaa. Wow," he said. "Day and night. Day and night difference."

                    Does he find himself working harder as he's getting older?

                    "You don't have to work harder, just smarter," said the man who'll continue to teach the "new culture" what that means.

                    [URL]http://pit.scout.com/story/1549639-harrison-leading-youngsters-to-water?s=68[/URL]

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                    • Snatch98
                      Pro Bowler
                      • May 2008
                      • 1451

                      Originally posted by steeler_fan_in_t.o.
                      By this time next year I wouldn't be surprised if the group is down to one.
                      Id wager they are all back.

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                      • RuthlessBurgher
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 33208

                        Originally posted by Snatch98
                        Id wager they are all back.
                        I think this is Deebo's last year. I think Heath has 2 more in him. I'll guess Greg Warren can play for 3 seasons. Then Ben will be the lone wolf.
                        Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                        Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                        We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                        We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                        • hawaiiansteel
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 35648

                          Greg Lloyd says a guy from his golf course could do what Steelers Jarvis Jones is doing

                          By Neal Coolong



                          Biting criticism from the former Steelers outside linebacker, but Lloyd sees Jones as a talented player. He needs to develop his leadership ability.

                          Steelers outside linebacker Jarvis Jones is being coached by one of the best players in Steelers history. Coach Joey Porter was brought in with the direction of, among other things, bringing out the most in the team's first round draft pick in 2013.

                          Porter isn't the only former Steelers great getting after Jones.

                          Greg Lloyd took to Sirius XM Bleacher Report Radio Monday, speaking with Nicole Zaloumis and Ric Bucher, commenting on Jones's production and stressing his development. It wasn't entirely pleasant.

                          "From what I've seen of Jarvis Jones, and don't get me wrong, I'm a fan, but from what I've seen him do, I could take a guy from the golf course I play at and have him do the same thing - just run up the field."

                          Assuming Lloyd doesn't play golf frequently with NFL-caliber outside linebackers, the statement can be taken as a shot at the Steelers' third year player. But Lloyd doesn't see him as a lost cause.

                          "The guy is talented," Lloyd said. "He has talent. I watched him play at (the University of Georgia), he's a great player, it just has not manifested itself yet. I would like to see him become that guy."

                          Lloyd, a small-school talent taken in the sixth round, may have used his lack of big school credibility and low-round draft selection (the sixth round in 1987) as his fuel. Jones has neither of those things.

                          "Most first round players are impact players, I would like to see this guy become an impact player."

                          Lloyd was the leader of the dominant Steelers' defenses of the 1990s. The game has changed considerably from those days, and while that may not be lost on Lloyd, he won't consider it an excuse either.

                          "I coached linebackers in Tampa Bay and oh, what a bad experience right there, they're not the same as we are. This young group of guys, they're not the same as we are. I realized then, the player that I was, I'm not that kind of coach because I expect them to (be like I was), practice all-out all the time."

                          For Jones, Lloyd thinks it's simple.

                          "What I want to see is Jarvis Jones to become a leader. I want to see him be the guy that says 'hey guys, follow me. I'm gonna show you how to do it. I'm gonna show you how to practice. I'm gonna show you how to prepare, because a lot of this has to do with, not just being a physical specimen and showing up on Sunday, the majority of football is done Wednesday through Friday."

                          [URL]http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/nfl-pittsburgh-steelers-news/2015/2/10/8010685/greg-lloyd-says-a-guy-from-his-golf-course-could-do-what-steelers[/URL]

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                          • hawaiiansteel
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 35648

                            Fact And Fiction: Jarvis Jones, The Pass Rusher

                            Few players on the Pittsburgh Steelers current roster have been criticized as much as outside linebacker Jarvis Jones throughout the edge rusher’s first two seasons ...

                            to read rest of article:

                            [URL]http://www.steelersdepot.com/2015/05/fact-and-fiction-jarvis-jones-the-pass-rusher/[/URL]

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                            • Oviedo
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 23824

                              Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                              Greg Lloyd says a guy from his golf course could do what Steelers Jarvis Jones is doing

                              By Neal Coolong



                              Biting criticism from the former Steelers outside linebacker, but Lloyd sees Jones as a talented player. He needs to develop his leadership ability.



                              Greg Lloyd took to Sirius XM Bleacher Report Radio Monday, speaking with Nicole Zaloumis and Ric Bucher, commenting on Jones's production and stressing his development. It wasn't entirely pleasant.

                              "From what I've seen of Jarvis Jones, and don't get me wrong, I'm a fan, but from what I've seen him do, I could take a guy from the golf course I play at and have him do the same thing - just run up the field."

                              "The guy is talented," Lloyd said. "He has talent. I watched him play at (the University of Georgia), he's a great player, it just has not manifested itself yet. I would like to see him become that guy."


                              "What I want to see is Jarvis Jones to become a leader. I want to see him be the guy that says 'hey guys, follow me. I'm gonna show you how to do it. I'm gonna show you how to practice. I'm gonna show you how to prepare, because a lot of this has to do with, not just being a physical specimen and showing up on Sunday, the majority of football is done Wednesday through Friday."

                              [URL]http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/nfl-pittsburgh-steelers-news/2015/2/10/8010685/greg-lloyd-says-a-guy-from-his-golf-course-could-do-what-steelers[/URL]
                              I guess Lloyd is just a "hater" who doesn't appreciate the trials and tribulations Jones has had. He pretty much captures what I have been saying though. As fans we all wants Jones to be hugely successful but the time is past for us to wait to see it.
                              "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                              • Slapstick
                                Rookie
                                • May 2008
                                • 0

                                This is old news. Lloyd said that awhile ago. And he is a hater...
                                Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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