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  • RuthlessBurgher
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    • May 2008
    • 33208

    #91
    Originally posted by Shawn
    And BTW-that article on Kyle Emmanuel got me looking at as much as I could on him. I think he is my first man crush of the 2015 draft. Wow, can that guy play. While I know he was up against FCS competition, he was dominant. Looked like JJ Watt out there. Powerful, quick first step, plays to the whistle, violent player. I really like him.
    Imagine if he is the second OLB prospect that we are able to take later in the draft after getting someone like OO or Harold or Orchard or Mauldin, etc. earlier on. Emmanuel with our comp pick that was moved up from the 7th round to the 6th round would be awesome. Glad to see the team showing interest.
    Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

    Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

    We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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    • Shawn
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      • Mar 2008
      • 15131

      #92
      Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
      Imagine if he is the second OLB prospect that we are able to take later in the draft after getting someone like OO or Harold or Orchard or Mauldin, etc. earlier on. Emmanuel with our comp pick that was moved up from the 7th round to the 6th round would be awesome. Glad to see the team showing interest.
      Agreed, thinking the same thing. This guy has Steeler written all over him.
      Trolls are people too.

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      • Oviedo
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        • May 2008
        • 23771

        #93
        Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
        Imagine if he is the second OLB prospect that we are able to take later in the draft after getting someone like OO or Harold or Orchard or Mauldin, etc. earlier on. Emmanuel with our comp pick that was moved up from the 7th round to the 6th round would be awesome. Glad to see the team showing interest.
        I like Emmanuel, but what do you think about Zack Wagenmann? He looked real explosive in the drills I've seen. IMO he would be a good #2 (or #3) pass rush pick in the draft



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        • phillyesq
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          • May 2008
          • 7568

          #94
          Isn't Kyle Emmanuel being projected as an ILB and core special teams player at the NFL level? I thought that was Mayock's description of him but I may have him confused with somebody else.

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          • K Train
            Hall of Famer
            • Jan 2014
            • 3685

            #95
            I think hes a 34 OLB only....but definitely core special teamer

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            • Shawn
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              • Mar 2008
              • 15131

              #96
              Whats not to love Emmanuel? I seen very little deficiencies in the guys game. I'm wondering to self why 6th round? Just small school stuff?
              Trolls are people too.

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              • RuthlessBurgher
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                • May 2008
                • 33208

                #97
                Originally posted by Oviedo
                I like Emmanuel, but what do you think about Zack Wagenmann? He looked real explosive in the drills I've seen. IMO he would be a good #2 (or #3) pass rush pick in the draft
                Interesting prospect, but a lot of his pressure seemed to come from the wide nine, which is also the case for our CFL import Shawn Lemon. He'll need to get stronger to be able to set the edge against the run, but he's another guy who would be intriguing late in the draft for sure.
                Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                • K Train
                  Hall of Famer
                  • Jan 2014
                  • 3685

                  #98
                  Originally posted by Shawn
                  Whats not to love Emmanuel? I seen very little deficiencies in the guys game. I'm wondering to self why 6th round? Just small school stuff?
                  Bit undersized, short arms, he really just abused OTs at that level...probably relies on his ability to do that too much and that wont work at the next level. Nice wildcard pick, but far from a sure thing

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                  • Shawn
                    Legend
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 15131

                    #99
                    Originally posted by K Train
                    Bit undersized, short arms, he really just abused OTs at that level...probably relies on his ability to do that too much and that wont work at the next level. Nice wildcard pick, but far from a sure thing
                    Yeah, almost verbatim what NFL.com said about the guy. Still wondering why abusing OTs is considered a weakness.
                    Trolls are people too.

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                    • K Train
                      Hall of Famer
                      • Jan 2014
                      • 3685

                      Originally posted by Shawn
                      Yeah, almost verbatim what NFL.com said about the guy. Still wondering why abusing OTs is considered a weakness.
                      I wouldnt consider it a weakness. Just tough to evaluate from a transition standpoint.

                      I saw one ND St game, he was clearly a standout on the defense. From a transitional standpoint its like when Danny Woodhead or Joique Bell led the nation in rushing and won the Harlon Hill trophy....its not a weakness dominating at a D2 level, its just not a very good evaluator of their potential as a pro.

                      Emanual is relentless though, even if he starts out as a STer he just seems like a guy that will find his way onto the field

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                      • Shawn
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                        • Mar 2008
                        • 15131

                        Originally posted by K Train
                        I wouldnt consider it a weakness. Just tough to evaluate from a transition standpoint.

                        I saw one ND St game, he was clearly a standout on the defense. From a transitional standpoint its like when Danny Woodhead or Joique Bell led the nation in rushing and won the Harlon Hill trophy....its not a weakness dominating at a D2 level, its just not a very good evaluator of their potential as a pro.

                        Emanual is relentless though, even if he starts out as a STer he just seems like a guy that will find his way onto the field
                        I hear ya. I do like what I see. He obviously won't be abusing OTs like that at the next level. But, his film screamed JJ Watt. Don't get me wrong...I'm not saying the guy is the next JJ Watt, but he was that kind of dominant at the FCS level.
                        Trolls are people too.

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                        • birtikidis
                          Hall of Famer
                          • May 2008
                          • 4628

                          Originally posted by Shawn
                          Yeah, almost verbatim what NFL.com said about the guy. Still wondering why abusing OTs is considered a weakness.
                          I went to a small D2 school in PA (Edinboro) and knew a bunch of guys that played ball there (my roommate was a Fullback). I then moved to Gainesville and knew a bunch of guys who played there. I can guarantee you that a guy that could abuse D2 guys at Edinboro (regardless of how bad we were.. go Scotts!), would not have been able to abuse my buddy Mo. I haven't seen Eman so I won't judge. But there's a big difference when you can manhandle the guys against you because they're not very talented (average at best).

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                          • Shawn
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                            • Mar 2008
                            • 15131

                            birt I don't disagree with you but abusing OTs shouldn't be seen as a weakness.
                            Trolls are people too.

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                            • RuthlessBurgher
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                              • May 2008
                              • 33208

                              Originally posted by Shawn
                              birt I don't disagree with you but abusing OTs shouldn't be seen as a weakness.
                              After the Ray Rice elevator video blew up in Goodell's face, the commissioner will make sure that no one is allowed to abuse anyone for anything anymore. I'm surprised that Goodell hasn't already fined James Harrison for abusing offensive tackles.
                              Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                              Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                              We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                              We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                              • birtikidis
                                Hall of Famer
                                • May 2008
                                • 4628

                                Originally posted by Shawn
                                birt I don't disagree with you but abusing OTs shouldn't be seen as a weakness.
                                majority of those guys aren't even good enough to be on a practice squad of an NFL team. How is it impressive?

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