5 Edge Rushers the Steelers Must Consider

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  • RuthlessBurgher
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    • May 2008
    • 33208

    #46
    Originally posted by SS Laser
    I would like Dupree or even Odighizuwa in the 1st. Both sound like possible elephant LB's to me.
    1. OLB Bud Dupree, Kentucky
    2. CB P.J. Williams, Florida State
    3. SS Jaquiski Tartt, Samford
    4. RB Jeremy Langford, Michigan State
    5. CB Nick Marshall, Auburn
    6. TE Blake Bell, Oklahoma
    7. DE Travis Raciti, San Jose State
    Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

    Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

    We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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    • RuthlessBurgher
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      • May 2008
      • 33208

      #47
      Or if Langford comes off the board during day 2 after his fast 40 at the combine, then we could go TE in round 4 (whoever's left out of Nick O'Leary, Jesse James, Ben Koyack, or Nick Heuerman) and RB in round 6 (someone like Vince Williams' younger brother Karlos).
      Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

      Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

      We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

      We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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      • Oviedo
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        • May 2008
        • 23771

        #48
        Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
        1. OLB Bud Dupree, Kentucky
        2. CB P.J. Williams, Florida State
        3. SS Jaquiski Tartt, Samford
        4. RB Jeremy Langford, Michigan State
        5. CB Nick Marshall, Auburn
        6. TE Blake Bell, Oklahoma
        7. DE Travis Raciti, San Jose State
        Some similarities with my first one

        1. Marcus Peters, CB, Washington
        2. Hau’oli Kikhaha, OLB, Washington
        3. Byron Jones, CB, Connecticut
        4. Jeremy Langford, RB, Mich St
        5. Zack Wagenmann, DE/OLB, Montana
        6. Blake Bell, TE, Oklahoma
        7. Jacob Hagen, S, Liberty

        My first instinct was maxx Williams in Round 1, but that hasn't worked in the past so I left him out. That should guarantee he is our pick at #22.
        Last edited by Oviedo; 02-24-2015, 12:25 PM.
        "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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        • JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
          Hall of Famer
          • May 2008
          • 3937

          #49
          The Steelers are high on Jalen Collins too so I wouldn't be surprised.

          Waynes looked bulked up & very impresses with his bench. I'm willing to slot his run support into "work in progress" now. He can cover...He has to be more willing to tackle now.

          Here's my 5 at #22 eliminating the ones who "should be gone". I think the next Steeler is on this list.

          Trae Waynes CB
          Bud Dupree OLB
          Marcus Peters CB (If on Steelers Board after Interview)
          Jalen Collins CB
          PJ Williams CB

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          • phillyesq
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            • May 2008
            • 7568

            #50
            Originally posted by JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
            The Steelers are high on Jalen Collins too so I wouldn't be surprised.

            Waynes looked bulked up & very impresses with his bench. I'm willing to slot his run support into "work in progress" now. He can cover...He has to be more willing to tackle now.

            Here's my 5 at #22 eliminating the ones who "should be gone". I think the next Steeler is on this list.

            Trae Waynes CB
            Bud Dupree OLB
            Marcus Peters CB (If on Steelers Board after Interview)
            Jalen Collins CB
            PJ Williams CB
            Unfortunately, I think that Waynes and Dupree will both be gone at 22. I think either Collins or Williams could make sense, particularly if the top pass rush guys are off the board.

            I would be extraordinarily hesitant to take Peters. If you take a Collins or Williams and they end up becoming just average NFL starters, you can live with that. And I understand that Collins has some risks, too. But Peters could be a home run or a complete miss - and a complete miss will set you back even further in rebuilding the secondary. Too much risk for my liking.

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            • hawaiiansteel
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              • May 2008
              • 35303

              #51
              James C Wexell @jimwexell -

              RT: Is Eli Harold the #Steelers' No. 1? [URL]http://pit.scout.com/story/1520477-is-he-the-1?s=68[/URL] … ... for customers at SCI: "Whole organization" meets with OLB.

              [URL]https://twitter.com/jimwexell[/URL]

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              • JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
                Hall of Famer
                • May 2008
                • 3937

                #52
                Originally posted by JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
                The Steelers are high on Jalen Collins too so I wouldn't be surprised.

                Waynes looked bulked up & very impresses with his bench. I'm willing to slot his run support into "work in progress" now. He can cover...He has to be more willing to tackle now.

                Here's my 5 at #22 eliminating the ones who "should be gone". I think the next Steeler is on this list.

                Trae Waynes CB
                Bud Dupree OLB
                Marcus Peters CB (If on Steelers Board after Interview)
                Jalen Collins CB
                PJ Williams CB
                I will add this too. My next two on the list I would have in a trade down scenario but that is just where I have them graded. PJ Williams is borderline to trade down. I have Maxx Williams TE & Eli Harold OLB as 6 & 7. I have both of them as early to mid 2nd's. I have PJ late 1st.

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                • hawaiiansteel
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                  • May 2008
                  • 35303

                  #53
                  James C Wexell @jimwexell -

                  Move James Harrison over, draft this guy [URL]http://pit.scout.com/[/URL] and let the mentorship begin [$] A combine profile of my man Owa Odighizuwa

                  Pay Worilds $11m? Not me. I move Harrison to strong side, draft Owa, re-sign Moats. $8m to play with.


                  [URL]https://twitter.com/jimwexell[/URL]

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                  • JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
                    Hall of Famer
                    • May 2008
                    • 3937

                    #54
                    Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                    James C Wexell @jimwexell -

                    Move James Harrison over, draft this guy [URL]http://pit.scout.com/[/URL] and let the mentorship begin [$] A combine profile of my man Owa Odighizuwa

                    Pay Worilds $11m? Not me. I move Harrison to strong side, draft Owa, re-sign Moats. $8m to play with.


                    [URL]https://twitter.com/jimwexell[/URL]
                    His hip surgeries scare the hell out of me. I wouldn't even him graded in the first three rounds because of them....But thats me.

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                    • hawaiiansteel
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                      • May 2008
                      • 35303

                      #55
                      NFP Prospect Focus: Eli Harold

                      Posted February 28, 2015



                      The University of Virginia has two underclassmen OLB/DE’s that have entered the draft. They are Eli Harold and Max Valles. I will profile Valles, who is a top prospect in his own right, tomorrow. Today, we will look at Harold who is the better prospect of the two.

                      Eli Harold – OLB/DE – Virginia

                      Harold is a third-year junior and a two-year starter entering the draft. He is the right defensive end in the Virginia scheme and lines up both up and down. He has been very productive over the last two seasons with 31 tackles for loss and 15.5 sacks.

                      Looking at his frame, Harold has ideal 3-4 OLB measurables. At the combine he was 6030 – 246, ran 4.61 and 4.53 in the 40 and had a vertical jump a 35″ as well as a standing long jump of 10’3″. His agility times were excellent also, timing 4.16 in the 20 yard shuttle and 7.07 in the 3-cone.

                      As a player, Harold has reacts quickly and has good instincts. He finds the ball and he makes plays. He shows strength at the point of attack and flashes the ability to set the edge. I say flashes, because he doesn’t do it on a consistent basis and, at times, can get over powered. Usually, this will happen when he is playing down.

                      He has good snap reaction to go along with a quick first step. He stays low and shows he can get penetration and disrupt the run. He is a good pursuit player who has the speed to chase plays down and takes good angles. On the negative side, while he flashes being able to shed quickly, there are times he can be slow off a block.

                      His best trait is pass rushing. He has very good initial quickness and shows he can beat his opponent with speed or moves. He has the speed and body flexibility to bend and get under his opponent when coming with speed. He also is good at faking an outside charge then coming back inside across the face of his opponent. He has quick hands and good overall hand use.

                      With 15.5 sacks over the last two seasons, Harold has very good sack production but he could and should have more. He gets a number of pressures and just needs to finish his pass rush a little better. He has the talent to be a double digit sack guy.

                      Harold is not used in coverage that often but he will occasionally drop. When he does, he gets depth and shows good receiver awareness. He has good ball reactions and shows he can plant and drive on the ball.

                      As good as Harold’s combine was, I doubt that he makes it in to the first round. Still, I see him going within the first 10 picks of the second round, and he should be a rookie starter. At his size, I don’t think that he is a good fit for the 4-3 teams, but the 3-4 clubs will be all over him. I’m sure Harold will be involved in a number of private workouts between now and draft day. A very interesting prospect who still has a lot of upside.

                      [URL]http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/nfp-prospect-focus-eli-harold/[/URL]

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                      • hawaiiansteel
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                        • May 2008
                        • 35303

                        #56
                        James C Wexell @jimwexell -

                        “@EricOreoJohnson: Eli Harold pro day today? If it is, 99% chance Tomlin is there?” Yes but met with "whole organization" at combine.

                        [URL]https://twitter.com/jimwexell[/URL]

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                        • hawaiiansteel
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 35303

                          #57
                          James C Wexell retweeted
                          Josh Norris @JoshNorris -

                          It makes sense RT @Rick_Schwartz: Ron Rivera lunching with @UCLAFootball 's Odighizuwa right now in Westwood. Hmm. Carolina holds 25th pick.

                          [URL]https://twitter.com/jimwexell[/URL]

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                          • hawaiiansteel
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                            • May 2008
                            • 35303

                            #58
                            James C Wexell @jimwexell -

                            Can't say Tomlin's only out touring the spring vacation spots this year. At Kentucky today, Louisville earlier. Hello, Bud Dupree.

                            [URL]https://twitter.com/jimwexell[/URL]

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                            • RuthlessBurgher
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                              • May 2008
                              • 33208

                              #59
                              Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                              James C Wexell @jimwexell -

                              Can't say Tomlin's only out touring the spring vacation spots this year. At Kentucky today, Louisville earlier. Hello, Bud Dupree.

                              [URL]https://twitter.com/jimwexell[/URL]
                              If any of those top 5 pass rushers are there (Fowler, Gregory, Beasley, Ray, or Dupree), that's our pick, I would think.
                              Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                              Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                              We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                              We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                              • K Train
                                Hall of Famer
                                • Jan 2014
                                • 3685

                                #60
                                Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                                If any of those top 5 pass rushers are there (Fowler, Gregory, Beasley, Ray, or Dupree), that's our pick, I would think.
                                Sucks that the first 4 could go back to back to back to back in the top 15.

                                Excellent year to move up for an edge rusher, but if any of those fall they will SPRINT to the podium

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