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  • D Rock
    Hall of Famer
    • Dec 2008
    • 2797

    #31
    Take him in the 3rd and let him sit for 3 or 4 years behind Ben to mature.

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    • Shawn
      Legend
      • Mar 2008
      • 15131

      #32
      Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
      Congratulations Shawn on your team winning the National Championship!.

      I'm sure you're very proud as you should be...
      Thanks H. Yes, I'm very proud of these Bucks. And for the record I think Braxton transfers and Cardele beats out Barrett in camp.
      Trolls are people too.

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      • Shawn
        Legend
        • Mar 2008
        • 15131

        #33
        Originally posted by papillon
        To be honest even if he was a 1st round pick I think he's 2-3 years away from being ready for the NFL. He has the physical tools without question and the intangibles, but it seemed to me that he was a little slow getting through the reads and through some balls late that ended up being under thrown or nearly defended because they were late. In the NFL that is dangerous. He was outstanding last night though.

        The offensive line was tremendous as well all night.

        Pappy
        . I noticed that as well but I do believe the Ducks were dropping 7-8 guys into zone and making him thread a needle.
        Trolls are people too.

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        • Shawn
          Legend
          • Mar 2008
          • 15131

          #34
          Originally posted by Dee Dub
          No way!!

          Wouldn't touch this kid with a 10 foot pole. What is between his ears is going to be magnified in the NFL when big dollars are thrown at him. I will not question his physical abilities. They are off the charts. But he scares me big time. I see a potential of anywhere from a Ryan Leaf to JeMarcus Russell.

          He has a problem with education. That is a problem for an NFL QB.
          . You are running on old news. Urban kicked his butt and the guy matured. He is a good student and a solid leader by all accounts. Nothing but good press on the kid now.
          Trolls are people too.

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          • Shawn
            Legend
            • Mar 2008
            • 15131

            #35
            Originally posted by Sugar
            One of my relatives talks to Braxton Miller's dad fairly often. He's saying that Braxton won't be able to play QB going forward. That's one less guy for Jones to sit behind.
            That shoulder injury could have been a blessing in disguise. He is a crazy talent. He reminds me of Antwan randle el. I think he should convert to WR. The guy could never really pass.
            Trolls are people too.

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            • Shawn
              Legend
              • Mar 2008
              • 15131

              #36
              Originally posted by Shoe
              He has to show he has matured a lot since that whole twitter gaffe. I know he's only "a kid", but I sincerely doubt it is much better. Especially now, when everyone is fawning over him. People overlook mental maturity so much too, but it is almost as important as physical maturity. You just can't become mature. It takes concerted effort and growth.

              It reminds me of Mike Adams, driving to Steelers offices (and everyone here) giving him the benefit of the doubt. Neverminding the fact that this mental moron smoked weed when he knew he would be under scrutiny at the Combine. It shows lack of judgement (mental maturity), and lack of will-power and acting like an adult and a professional.

              It's the same with this kid. I wouldn't take him in Round 1 or 2, like I wouldn't touch Jameis Winston at either point. Immaturity (for both) is severly lacking.
              . You have Cardele pegged way wrong. He is nothing like Adams. This kid wants to be great and expects to win. He hits the books and has done everything Urban asked him to do.
              Trolls are people too.

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              • Shawn
                Legend
                • Mar 2008
                • 15131

                #37
                Originally posted by D Rock
                Take him in the 3rd and let him sit for 3 or 4 years behind Ben to mature.
                I would take him with a third in a heart beat. Let him sit behind Ben for 3- 4 years.
                Trolls are people too.

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                • K Train
                  Hall of Famer
                  • Jan 2014
                  • 3685

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Shawn
                  Thanks H. Yes, I'm very proud of these Bucks. And for the record I think Braxton transfers and Cardele beats out Barrett in camp.
                  no way he wins an open comp with barrett in an urban meyer offense imo

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                  • papillon
                    Legend
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 11340

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Shawn
                    . I noticed that as well but I do believe the Ducks were dropping 7-8 guys into zone and making him thread a needle.
                    He'll have to get used to threading the needle at the next level. But, man he was exciting to watch. Did you see the window that Rodgers threw the winning touchdown through? It was small and closing while the ball was in the air. One of the best throws I've seen in a long time.

                    Pappy
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                    The 2025 Pittsburgh Steeler draft

                    1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
                    3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
                    3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
                    4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
                    5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
                    7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia

                    "Football is a physical game, well, it used to be anyways" - Mel Blount

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                    • The Man of Steel
                      Pro Bowler
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 2236

                      #40
                      Cardale Jones might as well declare for the NFL Draft since he's already a 22 year old Sophomore. At this rate he might graduate at 30 if he's lucky. Big dummy.
                      Obviously the standard is the standard.

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                      • BradshawsHairdresser
                        Legend
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 7056

                        #41
                        Originally posted by The Man of Steel
                        Cardale Jones might as well declare for the NFL Draft since he's already a 22 year old Sophomore. At this rate he might graduate at 30 if he's lucky. Big dummy.
                        Ben ain't exactly a Rhodes Scholar...if they don't have to spend too high a pick on Cardale, they should bring him on board. He can at least take Laundry's job of keeping a spot on the bench warm.

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                        • feltdizz
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 27532

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Shoe
                          He has to show he has matured a lot since that whole twitter gaffe. I know he's only "a kid", but I sincerely doubt it is much better. Especially now, when everyone is fawning over him. People overlook mental maturity so much too, but it is almost as important as physical maturity. You just can't become mature. It takes concerted effort and growth.

                          It reminds me of Mike Adams, driving to Steelers offices (and everyone here) giving him the benefit of the doubt. Neverminding the fact that this mental moron smoked weed when he knew he would be under scrutiny at the Combine. It shows lack of judgement (mental maturity), and lack of will-power and acting like an adult and a professional.

                          It's the same with this kid. I wouldn't take him in Round 1 or 2, like I wouldn't touch Jameis Winston at either point. Immaturity (for both) is severly lacking.
                          He addressed the twitter gaffe LAST YEAR at the Sugar Bowl.

                          This isn't anywhere as bad as Adams smoking weed at the combine.

                          Jones said something stupid 2 years ago and I could see if he doubled down on it but he did the exact opposite.
                          Steelers 27
                          Rats 16

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                          • Notleadpoisoned
                            Starter
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 554

                            #43
                            Originally posted by The Man of Steel
                            Cardale Jones might as well declare for the NFL Draft since he's already a 22 year old Sophomore. At this rate he might graduate at 30 if he's lucky. Big dummy.
                            I think Jones is a Redshirt Sophomore but even I was able to complete my Bachelor's degree by age 21 so this cat is just a bit behind academically-speaking.

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                            • RuthlessBurgher
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 33208

                              #44
                              Originally posted by The Man of Steel
                              Cardale Jones might as well declare for the NFL Draft since he's already a 22 year old Sophomore. At this rate he might graduate at 30 if he's lucky. Big dummy.
                              Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                              Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                              We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                              We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                              • feltdizz
                                Legend
                                • May 2008
                                • 27532

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Notleadpoisoned
                                I think Jones is a Redshirt Sophomore but even I was able to complete my Bachelor's degree by age 21 so this cat is just a bit behind academically-speaking.
                                did you also play for a top 5 program?
                                Steelers 27
                                Rats 16

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