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Not angry he didn't fail. Angry he could not do more with the talent he had while with the Steelers. And I am not convinced he would have 2 SB rings if he didn't have the DL defense to back him up. Both seasons the Steelers had the #1 scoring defense in the NFL. When he wins his first SB as a HC then we can agree he is a great coach.
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Really no running game and a terrible o-line and your mad he couldn't do more? What does the number one scoring defense have to do with the talent on offense? The guy is a great coach and a proven winner every where he has gone so your acknowledgement of it is meaningless. He won two rings as a coordinator and now you say he has to win one as a head coach, and when he wins one as a coach you will say well he wouldn't of won it without this guy or that guy, or he has to win 2 as a head coach.Comment
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The firing or "retirement" of Arians seems to have worked out well for all concerned. BA was COY in 2012, was 10-6 in 2013 and is in the playoffs this year with a team that doesn't have much talent. And their biggest star, Fitzgerald, has been injured and in decline this year.
Meanwhile, after two years of bashing Haley, we love Haley and we're in the playoffs.
AZ is happy. The Steelers are happy. Everybody's happy. Why do we go on and on about a guy who was fired/retired three years ago? Do fans in other cities do this?Last edited by RobinCole; 12-28-2014, 02:31 PM.Comment
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We rarely, if ever rolled Ben out. I know this because I complained about it incessantly for years. We never used the screen game with any regularity either. You're right that when we did, it was ugly, but that is a product of making it an afterthought in your preparation, rather than a staple.
There are just certain common-sense things that you do when you can't protect the QB. BA didn't come close to using all of the tools in his toolbox in that regard.
As far as "the most deadly PA ib the game", that statement could never be legitimately claimed until now.sigpic
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Ok wait a minute. He was a winner in cleveland?
Anyway would he even be a HC if not for his chance as a interim HC? I say no. There were 2 SB wins as WRC then OC and no chances for a HC'ing job. I ask why? There was a 3rd SB but a loss. Any chance at HC'ing job after that season? Not sure if it was just his time at the Browns that was a black eye or what. But most SB winning OC's are the guys up for a HC'ing jobs open the next year. At least a few interviews. He is doing a great job with Pittsburgh west. It is a failure of that FO/HC to not get a better QB after #1 & 2 went down but that is OT. But lets just say his time in the burg had worn out. It was time for a different OC. It looks to be working very well now for the Steelers.
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IIRC, the consensus was that if he lost his job as OC here, he would never get another job as an OC in the NFL. Never mind HC. Well, he got another OC job within two weeks. I thought that was kind of amusing. And it made Artie2 look like a clown. Not one of our high points.
So now you're arguing that he would have never been a HC if Pagano hadn't become ill. Well, he is a HC now based on what he did as interim HC.Comment
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Arians was the OC when the Browns last made the playoffs. This is impressive...lol.Ok wait a minute. He was a winner in cleveland? Anyway would he even be a HC if not for his chance as a interim HC? I say no. There were 2 SB wins as WRC then OC and no chances for a HC'ing job. I ask why? There was a 3rd SB but a loss. Any chance at HC'ing job after that season? Not sure if it was just his time at the Browns that was a black eye or what. But most SB winning OC's are the guys up for a HC'ing jobs open the next year. At least a few interviews. He is doing a great job with Pittsburgh west. It is a failure of that FO/HC to not get a better QB after #1 & 2 went down but that is OT. But lets just say his time in the burg had worn out. It was time for a different OC. It looks to be working very well now for the Steelers.
Whether you like it or not it all worked out for him in spite of all his SB appearances.Steelers 27
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Only FANS who did not like BA ever said he would not get a job. Those fans my look like clowns. The FO did bungle the whole retirement BS. Not sure what happened there but when did the FO say BA would not get another job? Yea we get some here do not like Art II but times changes boys. ALSO IT WAS TIME TO MOVE ON FROM BA. The O had become static and predictable. I will say I think he would look almost just as good as Haley with O player the Steelers have now. Also it is interesting that AZ had Whis and BA as a HC. Also have a very strong Defense. Sound familiar maybe? And yes I am not seeing him getting a HC'ing job without the great job he did as interim. That's just me.
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I had no problem with moving on from an OC after 4 or 5 years but it was how we did it that made us look foolish. I bet Ben would have bought in earlier if we didn't fumble that retirement mess.
As far as getting a HC job due to being a successful HC. LOL... ok, who predicted any success for BA once he left? not many...Steelers 27
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"not many"? I can't remember ONE, let alone many.Comment
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He made the playoffs with the browns, and I never said I had a problem with a coordinator change in Pittsburgh. When and how he got his coaching jobs has no bearing on the job he has done with those opportunities, he has had success everywhere. The guy can flat out coach he doesn't have to win a superbowl in a specific coaching job or with a specific group of players to prove that.Ok wait a minute. He was a winner in cleveland? Anyway would he even be a HC if not for his chance as a interim HC? I say no. There were 2 SB wins as WRC then OC and no chances for a HC'ing job. I ask why? There was a 3rd SB but a loss. Any chance at HC'ing job after that season? Not sure if it was just his time at the Browns that was a black eye or what. But most SB winning OC's are the guys up for a HC'ing jobs open the next year. At least a few interviews. He is doing a great job with Pittsburgh west. It is a failure of that FO/HC to not get a better QB after #1 & 2 went down but that is OT. But lets just say his time in the burg had worn out. It was time for a different OC. It looks to be working very well now for the Steelers.Comment
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Who gives a sh!t about Arians. Not a coach here, hasn't been for years, nothing to do with trying to win the division tonight nor the first round of the playoffs and he's never coming back to assist the black and gold. Don't wish him ill, don't wish him well. He's completely immaterial to anything Steelers related.sigpicComment
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Well he does poach PS players from the Steelers! Also to some of the other posts. I had no problem with BA most of the time. We won SB's and went again with him. But there is something going on that he never had a chance to be HC coach before the interim. And he showed he had the chops. Good coach sure I think. But for a Steelers fan to say he does not need to WIN a SB to be good is funny to me. MT takes a ton of crap from Steeler fans and he has a ring.
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