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  • steelnavy
    Backup
    • Aug 2008
    • 307

    Bruce Arians

    Have you noticed how many QBs BA has gone through in a season? Do you think Ben would be healthy right now if he were still the OC?
  • Flasteel
    Hall of Famer
    • May 2008
    • 4008

    #2
    Originally posted by steelnavy
    Have you noticed how many QBs BA has gone through in a season? Do you think Ben would be healthy right now if he were still the OC?
    This has been discussed in a couple of other threads, but it's the probably the only reason I considered him a terrible offensive coordinator. The 5 and 7 step-drop king.
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    • feltdizz
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 27564

      #3
      If Arians was still here we would have made the playoffs the last 2 years. We have no idea if Ben would be healthier, hurter or have another sexual assault accusation with 7th SB ring if BA was still the OC.

      All I know is everywhere BA goes... he wins.
      Steelers 27
      Rats 16

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      • bostonsteeler
        Pro Bowler
        • Oct 2008
        • 1529

        #4
        Ben would probably been have clobbered a whole lot more.
        We'd have missed the playoffs anyway, because our O wasn't the real reason we were losing. We had no D.

        I liked BA, but wasn't fond of seeing Ben sacked 50+ times each year (not that improved a lot after he left, but that was less on the OC and more on the fact that we had no OL the past two years).

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        • steelnavy
          Backup
          • Aug 2008
          • 307

          #5
          Originally posted by feltdizz
          If Arians was still here we would have made the playoffs the last 2 years. We have no idea if Ben would be healthier, hurter or have another sexual assault accusation with 7th SB ring if BA was still the OC.

          All I know is everywhere BA goes... he wins.
          Except for the past few weeks. And he probably is going to back his team into the playoffs this weekend and one and done... No thanks!

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          • SteelBuckeye
            Backup
            • Apr 2013
            • 398

            #6
            If I'm not mistaken, his team has already qualified for the playoffs ... no need to back in. It seems to me that BA is just a better HC than he was an OC. But, I agree ... no thanks.

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            • NorthCoast
              Legend
              • Sep 2008
              • 26639

              #7
              Originally posted by feltdizz
              If Arians was still here we would have made the playoffs the last 2 years. We have no idea if Ben would be healthier, hurter or have another sexual assault accusation with 7th SB ring if BA was still the OC.

              All I know is everywhere BA goes... he wins.
              I disagree. AZ is where they are because of their defense this season, not because of BA's offensive genius. BTW, last season, PIT and AZ ended with the exact same average pts/gm (23.7). Haley's play designs are at least equal to BAs at this point. TH has shown he knows how to use all the tools in the box as well as any OC out there.

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              • Bigsteel
                Benchwarmer
                • Aug 2013
                • 74

                #8
                BA was too impatient and tried to win the game on every play. We were winning games with 12-20 points only because of the Defense

                If it weren't for DL, BA probably wouldn't have made it out of retirement
                Last edited by Bigsteel; 12-27-2014, 01:28 PM.

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                • feltdizz
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 27564

                  #9
                  Originally posted by bostonsteeler
                  Ben would probably been have clobbered a whole lot more.
                  We'd have missed the playoffs anyway, because our O wasn't the real reason we were losing. We had no D.

                  I liked BA, but wasn't fond of seeing Ben sacked 50+ times each year (not that improved a lot after he left, but that was less on the OC and more on the fact that we had no OL the past two years).
                  Did we ever have an OL with Arians? We won a SB with Sean Mahan at center.
                  Steelers 27
                  Rats 16

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                  • feltdizz
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 27564

                    #10
                    Originally posted by NorthCoast
                    I disagree. AZ is where they are because of their defense this season, not because of BA's offensive genius. BTW, last season, PIT and AZ ended with the exact same average pts/gm (23.7). Haley's play designs are at least equal to BAs at this point. TH has shown he knows how to use all the tools in the box as well as any OC out there.
                    no one ever said BA was a genius... but the fact of the matter is wherever he goes he ends up in the playoffs damn near every year.

                    no doubt in my mind we win 1 or 2 more games the last 2 season's with BA.
                    Steelers 27
                    Rats 16

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                    • RobinCole
                      Pro Bowler
                      • Apr 2014
                      • 1358

                      #11
                      Palmer played in six games this year and was sacked nine times, or 1.5 times per game. He was not that mobile when he was young. At age 35 he was not mobile at all. I say "was" because his career may be over. Anyway, all things considered, that's not a lot of sacks. It is true that AZ has not done well on offense this year but they didn't have much to work with.

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                      • NorthCoast
                        Legend
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 26639

                        #12
                        Remember that Palmer was injured on a non-contact play. But who can say how much unseen damage does happen when a sack occurs.

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                        • Shawn
                          Legend
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 15131

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Flasteel
                          This has been discussed in a couple of other threads, but it's the probably the only reason I considered him a terrible offensive coordinator. The 5 and 7 step-drop king.
                          BA was an average OC at best. Haley has produced a record setting offense. This O moves the ball better than any Steeler team I have seen. It's not even debatable who the best OC in the Burgh has been.
                          Trolls are people too.

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                          • hawaiiansteel
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 35651

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Flasteel
                            This has been discussed in a couple of other threads, but it's the probably the only reason I considered him a terrible offensive coordinator. The 5 and 7 step-drop king.

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                            • hawaiiansteel
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 35651

                              #15

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