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  • feltdizz
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 27633

    #76
    Originally posted by steelz09
    I'd prefer this team to not suck. Using 12 million dollars on an average player isn't exactly a wise use of our salary cap. If I wanted a player that gets burned by TEs and is BETTER against the run then I would choose Vince Wiliams at a fraction of the cost.

    Time to stop overpaying for average talent and that includes the very selfish Worilds. He "guesses pass" and guesses wrong and it throws the defense under the bus.
    Timmons is better than average.

    Stop it.. you sound crazy.
    Steelers 27
    Rats 16

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    • sick beats
      Pro Bowler
      • Dec 2013
      • 2144

      #77
      Originally posted by RobinCole
      Arizona is 2-0. Beat the Giants today with a backup QB. ( I know, I know, the Giants).

      Dwyer, 9 carries for 31 yards and a TD. Foote, 4 solo tackles, 4 assists, one pass defended, one INT.

      Cousin Brucie says "HEY!" to all his friends in the Burgh.
      And then Dwyer punched his wife in the face, twice, in 2 days. I am pretty sure there is so seller's remorse going on.

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      • NJ-STEELER
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 12563

        #78
        Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
        It's just as hard, if not harder, to find a Julius Peppers type of prototypical 4-3 DE than it is to find a Clay Matthews type of prototypical 3-4 OLB. And when it comes to paying them if you are lucky enough to find them, the prototype 4-3 DE typically costs more to keep.

        It's just as hard, if not harder, to find a Warren Sapp type of prototypical 4-3 under tackle than it is to find a Casey Hampton type of prototypical 3-4 NT. And when it comes to paying them if you are lucky enough to find them, the prototype 4-3 under tackle typically costs more to keep.
        i disagree. yes, its hard finding elite players at any position. but look at carolin's, cincy's and seattle DL. all 3 have great defense and all 3 boast many late day draft picks that reek havoc on the QB.

        one reason is they dont have to adapt to a new position or convert from college DE to pro OLB. they come in and continue what they've learned in college and expand on that.
        another is there are a lot more college teams producing 4-3 DEs then 3-4 DEs. the talent pool is much bigger to find that 'elite' guy

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        • steelz09
          Administrator
          • Jan 2008
          • 4675

          #79
          Originally posted by feltdizz
          Timmons is better than average.

          Stop it.. you sound crazy.
          Tough... put me on ignore then so you don't have to read my craziness. Sorry, you spent 80 dollars on an average players jersey.
          Tomlin: Let's unleash hell and "mop the floor" with the competition.

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          • RuthlessBurgher
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 33208

            #80
            Originally posted by steelz09
            I'd prefer this team to not suck. Using 12 million dollars on an average player isn't exactly a wise use of our salary cap. If I wanted a player that gets burned by TEs and is BETTER against the run then I would choose Vince Wiliams at a fraction of the cost.

            Time to stop overpaying for average talent and that includes the very selfish Worilds. He "guesses pass" and "guesses wrong" and it throws the defense under the bus.... it's the exact opposite of playing team defense and no one on the defense has the balls to call him out about it.
            Timmons' base salary this year is $6.75 million. The signing bonus on the original 6 year deal was $11 million. His cap number is only so high now, is because the team asked him to restructure on multiple occassions to open up cap space in the present season, but thereby raising his cap hit in later season. That's why Ben's cap hit is in the $20 million range now even though his base salary this year is $12.1 million.
            Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

            Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

            We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

            We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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            • K Train
              Hall of Famer
              • Jan 2014
              • 3685

              #81
              Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
              Timmons' base salary this year is $6.75 million. The signing bonus on the original 6 year deal was $11 million. His cap number is only so high now, is because the team asked him to restructure on multiple occassions to open up cap space in the present season, but thereby raising his cap hit in later season. That's why Ben's cap hit is in the $20 million range now even though his base salary this year is $12.1 million.
              Steeler fans round up or down, in order to be extra dramatic and make things seem as though the end of the world is approaching...it doesnt matter what its about

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              • Slapstick
                Rookie
                • May 2008
                • 0

                #82
                Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                Timmons' base salary this year is $6.75 million. The signing bonus on the original 6 year deal was $11 million. His cap number is only so high now, is because the team asked him to restructure on multiple occassions to open up cap space in the present season, but thereby raising his cap hit in later season. That's why Ben's cap hit is in the $20 million range now even though his base salary this year is $12.1 million.

                So, Timmons doesn't have an "elite" salary? Of course not...

                Does he have an "elite" cap hit? Sure...but, he was helping the team...

                Regardless of his cap hit, the D would be much worse without him...
                Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                • NJ-STEELER
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 12563

                  #83
                  Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                  Timmons' base salary this year is $6.75 million. The signing bonus on the original 6 year deal was $11 million. His cap number is only so high now, is because the team asked him to restructure on multiple occassions to open up cap space in the present season, but thereby raising his cap hit in later season. That's why Ben's cap hit is in the $20 million range now even though his base salary this year is $12.1 million.

                  almost $7 M salary and around 9M cap hit. i dont know all the salaries of the ILBs out theere , but i would be surprised if that isnt elite money/cap hit for an inside linebacker

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                  • sick beats
                    Pro Bowler
                    • Dec 2013
                    • 2144

                    #84
                    Originally posted by birtikidis
                    I can see why they rolled the dice with a transition tag for Worilds.. He's been on skates and has had no impact whatsoever. Front office is slightly smarter than I am I s'pose.. not much, they did give him 9 million after all.
                    K Train, I think I owe you payment on a little wager, I need your bitcoin address though.
                    No, Worilds has been a DMVP-level player so far. And if you don't agree, you are just gloom and doom and I will put you on ignore. That's how half the fans are in here: living in denial.

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                    • birtikidis
                      Hall of Famer
                      • May 2008
                      • 4628

                      #85
                      Originally posted by sick beats
                      No, Worilds has been a DMVP-level player so far. And if you don't agree, you are just gloom and doom and I will put you on ignore. That's how half the fans are in here: living in denial.
                      I really hope you're being facetious because if not, I don't know what to tell you because you'll never get it.

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                      • birtikidis
                        Hall of Famer
                        • May 2008
                        • 4628

                        #86
                        Originally posted by K Train
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