Ziggy Hood signs with Jaguars

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • phillyesq
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 7568

    #31
    Originally posted by Shoe
    Not crying over Hood, but it is a symptom of a larger issue... It reminds me of rats deserting a sinking ship. It signals the lack of any culture that would tend to make guys look for reasons to stay. Among other things, it signals a lack of a direction, a lack of leadership.

    It further reinforces my statement, that we need to hit a home run in this year's draft, in terms of bringing in true leaders.
    I read in a few places that the FO didn't have much interest in bringing him back. On his best day, he was a mediocre player. Retaining him would lead to more mediocrity. Time to move on and improve.

    Comment

    • papillon
      Legend
      • Mar 2008
      • 11340

      #32
      Originally posted by squidkid
      one mans trash...........
      Is another man's come-up

      Pappy
      sigpic

      The 2025 Pittsburgh Steeler draft

      1.21 - Derrick Harmon, DT, Oregon - Nick Emmanwori, S, S. Carolina
      3.83 - Kaleb Johnson, RB, Iowa - DJ Giddens, RB, Kans St
      3.123 - Will Howard, QB, OSU
      4.156 - JJ Pegues, DT, Ole Miss
      5.185 - Clay Webb, OG, Jack St
      7.229 - Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins, DT, Georgia

      "Football is a physical game, well, it used to be anyways" - Mel Blount

      Comment

      • Slapstick
        Rookie
        • May 2008
        • 0

        #33
        Originally posted by papillon
        Is another man's come-up

        Pappy
        That was...unexpected...well played, sir....
        Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

        Comment

        • steelz09
          Administrator
          • Jan 2008
          • 4675

          #34
          What a bust... and can't believe the Jaguars paid him that type of money. He never lacked work ethic and that was apparent last year with those workout videos that were posted.

          So much for Tomlin's comment of "Hood is NT capable". lol.

          Hell, Troy is NT capable but that doesn't make it a good idea. Hood couldn't hold his ground as a 3-4 DE so I don't know how anyone could even think for a second that he could play NT and not get tossed around even worse.
          Tomlin: Let's unleash hell and "mop the floor" with the competition.

          Comment

          • K Train
            Hall of Famer
            • Jan 2014
            • 3685

            #35
            Originally posted by steelz09
            What a bust... and can't believe the Jaguars paid him that type of money. He never lacked work ethic and that was apparent last year with those workout videos that were posted.

            So much for Tomlin's comment of "Hood is NT capable". lol.

            Hell, Troy is NT capable but that doesn't make it a good idea. Hood couldn't hold his ground as a 3-4 DE so I don't know how anyone could even think for a second that he could play NT and not get tossed around even worse.
            He was always good (well servicable) lined up over center, his problem at DE was he tried playing 310 pound OLB and tried to bend the corner and OTs would simply push him out of the play.

            When he did try to stack and shed as he should have been doing he would try to out arm power them, and fail. He'll be decent inside in a 43, but not $4million a year decent

            Comment

            • NJ-STEELER
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 12563

              #36
              Originally posted by thor75
              Maybe the FO told Hood they did not think he was worth retaining or had no contact with him altogether. Silence by the FO could speak volumes and Hood read between the lines. It could be a good split for both, Hood leaves the stigma of being an underwhelming 1st rounder and the Steelers look into other avenues.
              you're ziggy hood.

              you have the size, speed, strength ( raw talent) to make yourself a 1st round pick.

              that talent is (obviously) better suited for a 4-3 DT

              why would you stay with a team where you're not being used to the best of your ability and doesnt want to match the offer jax has on the table?

              Comment

              • NJ-STEELER
                Legend
                • May 2008
                • 12563

                #37
                Originally posted by K Train
                $4million a year decent
                i'd guess that figure is average (or maybe a bit below average) for a starting DL

                Comment

                • Shoe
                  Hall of Famer
                  • May 2008
                  • 4044

                  #38
                  Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
                  you're ziggy hood.

                  you have the size, speed, strength ( raw talent) to make yourself a 1st round pick.

                  that talent is (obviously) better suited for a 4-3 DT

                  why would you stay with a team where you're not being used to the best of your ability and doesnt want to match the offer jax has on the table?
                  Hindsight being 20/20, that is a joke. As far as I recall, he didn't produce noteworthy collegiate statistics either (that would suggest he was that great an athlete). Again, I don't remember precisely, but I think he was just known as a solid, dependable guy... who turned in great WORKOUT numbers, that pushed him UP into the first round. He for sure, was NEVER considered anything but a late-first.
                  I wasn't hired for my disposition.

                  Comment

                  • NJ-STEELER
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 12563

                    #39
                    being considered a top 32 draft isnt a good thing?

                    Comment

                    • Sugar
                      Hall of Famer
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 3700

                      #40
                      Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
                      you're ziggy hood.

                      you have the size, speed, strength ( raw talent) to make yourself a 1st round pick.

                      that talent is (obviously) better suited for a 4-3 DT

                      why would you stay with a team where you're not being used to the best of your ability and doesnt want to match the offer jax has on the table?
                      Agreed. Bob Labriola and Mike Prisuta both said that Ziggy was a good player that just didn't seem to fit in Pittsburgh because of the scheme as much as anything.

                      Comment

                      • phillyesq
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 7568

                        #41
                        Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
                        you're ziggy hood.

                        you have the size, speed, strength ( raw talent) to make yourself a 1st round pick.

                        that talent is (obviously) better suited for a 4-3 DT

                        why would you stay with a team where you're not being used to the best of your ability and doesnt want to match the offer jax has on the table?
                        If you have all that size, speed and talent, why aren't you making plays as a pass rusher in the nickel? He and Cam Heyward played the same position in the same defense. Cam Heyward made an impact. Ziggy didn't. Say what you want about scheme, this guy, even though he's a great athlete and a hard worker, isn't a good football player.

                        I remember him talking a few years ago after his crazy training about how linemen in Pittsburgh weren't going to be fat, with Casey Hampton then making the comment about grown *ss man strength. Ziggy has all the weight room strength in the world, but he never acquired the game strength that Hampton was referring to.

                        Comment

                        • NJ-STEELER
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 12563

                          #42
                          Originally posted by phillyesq
                          If you have all that size, speed and talent, why aren't you making plays as a pass rusher in the nickel? He and Cam Heyward played the same position in the same defense. Cam Heyward made an impact. Ziggy didn't. Say what you want about scheme, this guy, even though he's a great athlete and a hard worker, isn't a good football player.

                          I remember him talking a few years ago after his crazy training about how linemen in Pittsburgh weren't going to be fat, with Casey Hampton then making the comment about grown *ss man strength. Ziggy has all the weight room strength in the world, but he never acquired the game strength that Hampton was referring to.

                          didnt he sacks in his 1st year filling in.

                          by the time he learned the "system" he was more ineffective year after year.

                          is he a good football player? no, certainly not in this scheme.

                          we'll see if he's any better now that he's in a 4-3

                          Comment

                          • steelblood
                            Hall of Famer
                            • May 2008
                            • 4166

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Shoe
                            Hindsight being 20/20, that is a joke. As far as I recall, he didn't produce noteworthy collegiate statistics either (that would suggest he was that great an athlete). Again, I don't remember precisely, but I think he was just known as a solid, dependable guy... who turned in great WORKOUT numbers, that pushed him UP into the first round. He for sure, was NEVER considered anything but a late-first.
                            i don't know Shoe. He was a very good college 4-3 DT. 4 year total of 155 tackles, 22 tackles for loss, 14.5 sacks, 8 pd, 5 forced fumbles. That is very nice production for an DT who played in a major conference (believe Missouri was in the big 12 when he was there). Not amazing, but many 1st rd DTs haven't had that production coming out of college.
                            Even if Bill Belichick was getting an atomic wedgie, his face would look exactly the same.

                            Comment

                            Working...