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  • BURGH86STEEL
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    • May 2008
    • 6921

    I believe there should be and eventually will be gun control regulations in the US. What's it going to take for people to come around, more mass shootings? More guns means more shootings. The type of guns available to the general public makes the violence more deadly.

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    • birtikidis
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      • May 2008
      • 4628

      Yes let's take guns away from law abiding citizens. I'm sure the criminals will become less criminally and also give up there guns? Ever wonder why mass shootings take place in places that carrying a gun is illegal? These are the people that are going to take as many people out with them as they can. Only thing you can do in a school is hunker down, pray and wait.

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      • BURGH86STEEL
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        • May 2008
        • 6921

        Originally posted by birtikidis
        Yes let's take guns away from law abiding citizens. I'm sure the criminals will become less criminally and also give up there guns? Ever wonder why mass shootings take place in places that carrying a gun is illegal? These are the people that are going to take as many people out with them as they can. Only thing you can do in a school is hunker down, pray and wait.
        There is no need for law abiding citizens to have several guns in their homes. Nor is there a need for law abiding citizens to have "mass killing machines" in their homes.

        Are you serious believing that mass shootings happen because it's illegal to carry a gun? If people had limited access to the "mass killing machines" then the opportunities for mass shootings would be limited. We are never going to get rid of "incidents" in our society. What we can do is limit the opportunities for incidents by taking the appropriate measures.

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        • DukieBoy
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          • May 2008
          • 3488

          Individually, I'd like for responsible people to possess reasonable firearms, so I am not advocating that all guns be taken from averybody and anybody. The information I see tells me the status quo is not so good.


          [URL]http://www.ibtimes.com/guns-kill-more-people-car-accidents-14-us-states-1119072[/URL]

          [URL]http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/03/state-map-gun-suicides-traffic-deaths[/URL]

          [URL]http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-12-19/american-gun-deaths-to-exceed-traffic-fatalities-by-2015.html[/URL]

          [URL]http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2012/12/14/chart-the-u-s-has-far-more-gun-related-killings-than-any-other-developed-country/[/URL]





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          • steelsnis
            Starter
            • Dec 2008
            • 980

            QUOTE=birtikidis;566364]Yes let's take guns away from law abiding citizens. I'm sure the criminals will become less criminally and also give up there guns? Ever wonder why mass shootings take place in places that carrying a gun is illegal? These are the people that are going to take as many people out with them as they can. Only thing you can do in a school is hunker down, pray and wait.[/QUOTE]

            Who's taking away guns? No one is taking away guns from law abiding citizens. That's like saying regulating alcohol or cigarettes is taking them away.

            And last I checked, two of the worst mass shootings of the past 15 years happened in Colorado (Aurora, Columbine). A state where lots of people carry guns.

            [URL]http://www.colorado.gov/cs/Satellite/StatePatrol-Main/CBON/1251594549010[/URL][

            Remember Jared Lee Loughner shooting up a Congresswoman and others in a parking lot? Arizona. No shortage of guns in AZ either.
            Last edited by steelsnis; 07-28-2013, 09:11 PM.

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            • flippy
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              • Dec 2008
              • 17088

              Originally posted by Chadman
              Yeah, I posted that earlier....and strangely we see almost the same conversation playing out..
              Those are downright hilarious. Chadman lives on Planet X. Australia has nothing in common with the US. You couldn't possibly understand anything about our culture

              At the end of the day, it really does seem like the US is a culture of idiocracy. While the majority of people are really just like anyone from anywhere in the world, our gov't just doesn't frequently function in the best interests of the majority. I never really understood why we aren't able to copy the best policies around the world and integrate them easily into our society for the better. From guns to wars to healthcare to drugs to immigration and on and on, there's so many examples of countries that figured out how to make these issues work.

              I think it's the ninja cops holding us back
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              • flippy
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                • Dec 2008
                • 17088

                Originally posted by DukieBoy
                Individually, I'd like for responsible people to possess reasonable firearms, so I am not advocating that all guns be taken from averybody and anybody. The information I see tells me the status quo is not so good.


                [URL]http://www.ibtimes.com/guns-kill-more-people-car-accidents-14-us-states-1119072[/URL]

                [URL]http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/03/state-map-gun-suicides-traffic-deaths[/URL]

                [URL]http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-12-19/american-gun-deaths-to-exceed-traffic-fatalities-by-2015.html[/URL]

                [URL]http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2012/12/14/chart-the-u-s-has-far-more-gun-related-killings-than-any-other-developed-country/[/URL]
                I was surprised to hear someone on the radio recently saying the NRA has several million members and only about $20M that they spend on lobbying. I always imagined that they were the king of lobbying with infinite power to control everything. It's amazing to realize they're 1% of americans. I guess if 1% of americans control the majority of our countries wealth, it would make sense that 1% of americans get to control our gun laws.

                An average NFL QB could outspend the NRA if he were inclined. I really was surprised how little money they have.
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                • DukieBoy
                  Hall of Famer
                  • May 2008
                  • 3488

                  Originally posted by flippy
                  I was surprised to hear someone on the radio recently saying the NRA has several million members and only about $20M that they spend on lobbying. I always imagined that they were the king of lobbying with infinite power to control everything. It's amazing to realize they're 1% of americans. I guess if 1% of americans control the majority of our countries wealth, it would make sense that 1% of americans get to control our gun laws.

                  An average NFL QB could outspend the NRA if he were inclined. I really was surprised how little money they have.
                  They have been very effective, obviously, with their limited funds. Now, if our government could be so efficient yet effective ...





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                  • Chadman
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                    • May 2008
                    • 6537

                    Originally posted by flippy
                    Those are downright hilarious. Chadman lives on Planet X. Australia has nothing in common with the US. You couldn't possibly understand anything about our culture

                    At the end of the day, it really does seem like the US is a culture of idiocracy. While the majority of people are really just like anyone from anywhere in the world, our gov't just doesn't frequently function in the best interests of the majority. I never really understood why we aren't able to copy the best policies around the world and integrate them easily into our society for the better. From guns to wars to healthcare to drugs to immigration and on and on, there's so many examples of countries that figured out how to make these issues work.

                    I think it's the ninja cops holding us back

                    Obviously they made than Van Cleeve guy look as bad aspossible, but some of his responses were gold. How about the political advisor? "What makes a successful politician?" "Getting re-elected". "Really? What about passing legislation to improve the way of life", "Oh, yes...that too.."...

                    I voted for both Rob Borbidge (the Qld Premier that got voted out) & John Howard in those elections. It was a brave move, not very popular, but the right thing to do.
                    The people that are trying to make the world worse never take a day off, why should I?

                    Light up the darkness.

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                    • flippy
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                      • Dec 2008
                      • 17088

                      Originally posted by Chadman
                      Obviously they made than Van Cleeve guy look as bad aspossible, but some of his responses were gold. How about the political advisor? "What makes a successful politician?" "Getting re-elected". "Really? What about passing legislation to improve the way of life", "Oh, yes...that too.."...

                      I voted for both Rob Borbidge (the Qld Premier that got voted out) & John Howard in those elections. It was a brave move, not very popular, but the right thing to do.
                      I didn't think that Van Cleeve guy was real. He was too over the top ridiculous. He had to be in on the bit.
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                      • flippy
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                        • Dec 2008
                        • 17088

                        Anyone familiar with the freakonomics guys? They came up with the idea that crime went down as a result of abortion being legal. Wonder if the fact we're going in the wrong direction on abortion in places like TX and NC if that's having a negative impact on crimes/gun violence?
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