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  • Mister Pittsburgh
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    • Jul 2008
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    #61
    Accidental link paste. A google search on that incident had many results and thought that was from Huffington Post. I have experienced racism as I have dated multiple black women and have had to deal with groups of black men that didn't like that on multiple occasions...pretty much any time we went out to a club truth be told. I am not racist at all, just feel in the instance of the TM/ GZ incident the media attempted to sensationalize this as a racial incident when it wasn't.

    There was a bunch of lies the media spread as well. Like most people think the police told GZ not to follow TM. Not true...a dispatcher who has no authority at all said 'you don't have to do that' when GZ said he was following him.

    GZ female neighbor was home with her child when several young black males broke in and took 600 dollars and a camera.

    A construction crew in GZ neighborhood witnessed a younger black male reach in through an open window and steal a laptop.

    it is not illegal to carry a personal firearm or to drive your car in a public right of way even if someone perceives that as being followed.

    Martin could of called 911, or his dad whose house was hundreds of feet away if he felt so scared.

    this is my last post on this. People are going to have differing opinions, and i respect yours.
    Last edited by Mister Pittsburgh; 07-15-2013, 07:38 PM.
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    • pittpete
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      • Aug 2008
      • 6825

      #62
      [URL]http://www.nj.com/crime/index.ssf/2013/03/autumn_pasquale_murder_and_tri.html[/URL]

      2 black kids lure a white girl to their house, kill her and stuff her body in a garbage container.
      Our president didn't speak out about this tragedy.
      Just saying
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      • Mister Pittsburgh
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        • Jul 2008
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        #63
        Originally posted by pittpete
        [URL]http://www.nj.com/crime/index.ssf/2013/03/autumn_pasquale_murder_and_tri.html[/URL]

        2 black kids lure a white girl to their house, kill her and stuff her body in a garbage container.
        Our president didn't speak out about this tragedy.
        Just saying
        Some grotesque reading that received zero media coverage....

        [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Channon_Christian_and_Christopher_Newso m[/url]
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        • hawaiiansteel
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          • May 2008
          • 35649

          #64
          Maurkice Pouncey regrets wearing 'Free Hernandez' hat

          By Rodger Sherman on Jul 15 2013



          One of the Pouncey brothers photographed in a pro-Aaron Hernandez hat says he regrets his decision.

          Pittsburgh Steelers center Maurkice Pouncey has apologized for an incident where he and his brother, Miami Dolphins center Mike, were photographed wearing "Free Hernandez" hats at a co-birthday party Saturday night.

          Pouncey, an All-Pro and Pro Bowler in each of his three NFL seasons, tweeted out an apology for his choice of message, although he chose not to mention Aaron Hernandez, with whom the brothers played at Florida, by name:

          I fully recognize the seriousness of the situation involving my former teammate, and I regret that my actions appear to make light of that serious situation. I apologize to anyone who was offended by my actions.

          Mike Pouncey has issued no statement about the hats. While Pouncey apologized for seeming to "making light" of the situation, he doesn't really have much to say about the controversial part of the hat -- that he's saying Aaron Hernandez, who very well may have killed a person, should be out of prison, choosing to avoid any statement about his ex-teammate's situation besides that its very serious. Or maybe implying Hernandez should be free is the joke Pouncey is apologizing for? Regardless, he's trying to be contrite after an unnecessarily awkward situation he put himself into.

          Although Hernandez is obviously considered innocent until proven guilty by the justice system, the NFL has been quick to disassociate from Hernandez, with the Patriots offering a Hernandez jersey exchange, and the league stripping his player page from their website and removing a photo of him from the Hall of Fame.

          [URL]http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/7/15/4525648/maurkice-pouncey-apology-aaron-hernandez-hat[/URL]

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          • Shawn
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            • Mar 2008
            • 15131

            #65
            Originally posted by feltdizz
            yes... just run home. It's all Trayvon's fault. SMH at this logic. I swear... God forbid any of your kids get followed by some creep with a gun. All we have is Zimmerman's story but he lied more than a few times so why should we believe him? Who is to say he didn't stop Trayvon and put his hands on him first?

            Zimmerman is a guy who has a history of acting out and lying. But sure.. believe him because Trayvon smoked weed and got in trouble in school. What about GZ's past? That guy isn't a saint and has issues. He called the police 30 or 40 times on 3 months and most were false alarms. We are talking about a guy who always see's the worst in every situation.

            ehhh whatever, it's not worth it. It won't be a problem or an injustice until it's on the other foot.
            Lots of opinions, but what it boils down to...not enough evidence to convict beyond a reasonable doubt. IMO, you had an over zealous neighborhood watch captain...strapped with opinions about young black males committing crimes in his neighborhood...based on recent events. He pursued TM with intent...not to kill but to question. He pursued, TM took issue to the questioning and beat the stuffing out of GZ. GZ pulls out a gun, truly fearing for his life and killed TM.

            Personally, I believe two people showed poor judgment that night, and one died. GZ should have called police, and stayed in his car. If he does TM is alive. TM shouldn't have beat GZ...but answered his questions. If he had just answered the questions...said where he lived...waited for police etc whatever...he would be alive.

            If you we're stopped in a neighbor and questioned, would you beat the guy questioning you? Probably not. And that's why you would have survived an incident with GZ.
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            • Shawn
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              • Mar 2008
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              #66
              Originally posted by feltdizz
              I'm familiar with that story and its horrible but I'm not talking about media coverage... I'm talking about the same exact thing, roles reversed though. I seriously doubt you and others would say "justice was served" if a black man with a gun was following a white kid and ignored 911 telling him to stay in the car. Especially if that person was a wannabe cop with a history of ignoring authority.

              Wait... did you just provide a link to a white supremist website? Anglo Saxon tshirts? Ummm what the. Hell are you into?

              No thanks... thats all you.
              Isnt Zimmerman Hispanic? Never understood why this is a black white thing.
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              • Mister Pittsburgh
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                • Jul 2008
                • 3674

                #67
                Quite a lot of what you currently see going on in America today is a behind the scenes push to get America in line for this. George Bush Sr. Signed America up for this. [URL]http://sustainabledevelopment.un.org/content/documents/Agenda21.pdf[/URL]

                It is real, yet you probably never even heard of it. Think of the gun control push and all the untouchable corporations growing to massive size using tax dollars and companies like Monsanto. Every document this country was founded on made it so YOU as an INDIVIDUAL were protected to fend for yourself and your family with the government serving you. Now, the federal government wants you to grow to depend on them more and more.

                BTW, Pittsburgh is signed on as an Agenda 21 City. Some states and cities are writing in laws to protect their citizens from this agenda. Mostly southern cities.

                i really don't think this is a republican, democratic, white, black, hispanic, asian, etc. controlled thing. I do believe there is a master plan. Read that PDF and do a simple google search of Agenda 21. Educate yourself cause it is 100% real, and pretty freaking scary.

                Read this, notice John Kerry fully signed on, and think of his push for gun control. [URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agenda_21[/URL]

                this movement is basically for a one world government under U.N control which will effectively be fully socialist and police state oriented. Bright future we and our children have.
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                • Mister Pittsburgh
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                  • Jul 2008
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                  #68
                  Btw, did you folks realize the U.N. controls and basically owns our NATIONAL PARKS and some STATE PARKS?

                  [url]http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/1968[/url]
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                  • steelsnis
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                    • Dec 2008
                    • 980

                    #69
                    My question is, why couldn't Trayvon Martin have been protected under the same ridiculous Stand Your Ground law? If he honestly feared for his life while being followed at night by a stranger, wasn't he justified (according to FL law) to have beaten the tar out of Zimmerman?

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                    • Shawn
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                      • Mar 2008
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by steelsnis
                      My question is, why couldn't Trayvon Martin have been protected under the same ridiculous Stand Your Ground law? If he honestly feared for his life while being followed at night by a stranger, wasn't he justified (according to FL law) to have beaten the tar out of Zimmerman?
                      If Zimmerman attacked him first then I would think yes. But, you can't just beat someone who you believe is following you. If so, I could beat someone in line behind me at Wal Mart.
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                      • Mister Pittsburgh
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                        #71
                        On Fox but not CNN or USATODAY [url]http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/jogger-says-he-was-attacked-in-retaliation-for-zimmerman-verdict-2.html[/url]
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                        • Mister Pittsburgh
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                          #72
                          6 black teens beat this Ohio man to death cause they were bored last year this time. You ever hear of this?

                          [url]http://www.fox19.com/story/22829274/north-college-hill-boredom-beating-victim-pat-mahaney-dies[/url]
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                          • BradshawsHairdresser
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                            • Dec 2008
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                            #73
                            Originally posted by Mister Pittsburgh
                            6 black teens beat this Ohio man to death cause they were bored last year this time. You ever hear of this?

                            [URL]http://www.fox19.com/story/22829274/north-college-hill-boredom-beating-victim-pat-mahaney-dies[/URL]
                            Nope.

                            I believe that the reason we heard all about the Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman case is because some folks in high places wanted to use it to advance an agenda.

                            Why was the Justice Dept. involved helping with the demonstrations against GZ in the days following TM's death?
                            [URL="http://theweek.com/article/index/246804/did-the-justice-department-incite-the-2012-trayvon-martin-protests"]
                            [/URL]This is outrageous conduct on the part of our Justice Dept., and ought to warrant Congressional investigation.

                            Look up The Daily Caller, July 10, 2013, "Docs: Justice Department facilitated anti-Zimmerman protests".
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                            • flippy
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                              • Dec 2008
                              • 17088

                              #74
                              Originally posted by SteelerOfDeVille
                              if you think your'e being followed, how do you prove it? you walk a unlikely, uncommon path. if that includes walking through yards to see if the follower FOLLOWS, then so be it.

                              once i prove i AM being followed, I'm not likely to wait and see what the creepy dude is up to... cuz after all, profiling goes both ways - and GZ fits the "serial killer" profile. Now that I've proven that i was minding my business and he IS following me, I don't know if he's waiting for his opportunity or what, but, I'm not going to let that happen... as soon as he's close enough, I'm going to punch him right in the nose. period.

                              At that point, it's MY self defense from the psycho killer following me.
                              this whole thing is f'd up on a lot of levels. maybe we should do psychological testing before we allow people to carry guns, not just background checks. there's so many knuckleheads in the world. i'd personally like if less of them had guns. maybe passing a detailed psych test and showing no tendencies of mental issues plus having a 150+ IQ could be part of the baseline qualifier to owning a gun?

                              maybe people on neighborhood watches shouldn't have guns. they aren't cops. and they are likely going to be in a bad situation like this if they are doing their job. and they don't really have training. think of how much cleaner this would be if he even had a taser with one of those cameras on it that can record everything. maybe they could rewrite the laws that if you shoot someone and don't have video proof that your life was in danger, you are guilty? whatever it takes. it would force people into tasers with cameras. why would anyone want to carry a gun when tasers are available anyway? heck, dog the bounty hunter doesn't use real guns and he's often going after bad people with real criminal histories that are more likely to have a weapon. if pepper spray and tasers are good enough for Dog, why not be good enough for Zimmerman types?

                              i don't blame the kid for attacking zimmerman. we'd have all probably done the same thing if some crazy guy with a gun was pursuing us through yards. and btw, in my neighborhood, there's always teenagers taking short cuts through yards. They are lazy. It's no big deal. It's normal.

                              The other thing that jumps out at me was TM was high on weed. I've seen enough pot heads to realize they don't cause problems. These are the most relaxed people on the planet. You could probably hit a guy on weed and odds are he'd laugh and wouldn't hit you back. You'd have to do something significant to bring him down and put him in attack mode. Drunks fight. Pot heads chill.

                              Then WTF is wrong with TM's parents? I've heard black friends say if there were black crimes in their neighborhood, they're telling their kids to be home at supper time way before dark. I've heard some reaction that "I'd have never let my kid out that late. Kids should be home before the sun goes down."

                              At the end of the day, I don't see this as a race thing. It's about a teenage boy being killed by an overzealous adult. Zimmerman is under 30. I don't think racism exists in people under 40 or so, but definitely under 30. So this is just another bad interpretation.

                              At the end of the day, unfortunately, I think the jurors got it right. But it feels like a technicality.

                              I've volunteered in prisons working with people that have committed every kind of crime you can imagine. And I've heard from several guys who shot someone, that it's worse not getting convicted that getting caught and arrested. Either way, these guys live lives of self imprisonment. And at least in jail, they are able to let go of the worry/guilt a little better. So in reality, TM probably got more justice than anyone realizes.

                              And I know TM is dead, but he also shouldn't have resorted to violence at all. Everyone f'd up a little in this fiasco.
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                              • Shoe
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                                • May 2008
                                • 4044

                                #75
                                Obviously, it begs the question whether he actually regrets it because it was a bad decision... or just because people are telling him it was wrong.

                                On another note,can we drop this Trayvon Martin/Zimmerman cr@p?

                                Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                                Maurkice Pouncey regrets wearing 'Free Hernandez' hat

                                By Rodger Sherman on Jul 15 2013



                                One of the Pouncey brothers photographed in a pro-Aaron Hernandez hat says he regrets his decision.

                                Pittsburgh Steelers center Maurkice Pouncey has apologized for an incident where he and his brother, Miami Dolphins center Mike, were photographed wearing "Free Hernandez" hats at a co-birthday party Saturday night.

                                Pouncey, an All-Pro and Pro Bowler in each of his three NFL seasons, tweeted out an apology for his choice of message, although he chose not to mention Aaron Hernandez, with whom the brothers played at Florida, by name:

                                I fully recognize the seriousness of the situation involving my former teammate, and I regret that my actions appear to make light of that serious situation. I apologize to anyone who was offended by my actions.

                                Mike Pouncey has issued no statement about the hats. While Pouncey apologized for seeming to "making light" of the situation, he doesn't really have much to say about the controversial part of the hat -- that he's saying Aaron Hernandez, who very well may have killed a person, should be out of prison, choosing to avoid any statement about his ex-teammate's situation besides that its very serious. Or maybe implying Hernandez should be free is the joke Pouncey is apologizing for? Regardless, he's trying to be contrite after an unnecessarily awkward situation he put himself into.

                                Although Hernandez is obviously considered innocent until proven guilty by the justice system, the NFL has been quick to disassociate from Hernandez, with the Patriots offering a Hernandez jersey exchange, and the league stripping his player page from their website and removing a photo of him from the Hall of Fame.

                                [URL]http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/7/15/4525648/maurkice-pouncey-apology-aaron-hernandez-hat[/URL]
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