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  • Coolie Man
    Backup
    • Mar 2013
    • 351

    Jarvis Jones is a turtle

    At his pro day his best 40 was 4.9. holy Tao ran 4.8. They also said he doesn't train real hard. I don't want him at 1.17. Give me one of the stud guards.
  • Mister Pittsburgh
    Hall of Famer
    • Jul 2008
    • 3674

    #2
    I'm hoping teams trade up ahead of us for players like Patterson, Barkley, etc. and a gnarley OT like Lane Johnson falls to 17.
    @_Hellgrammite

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    • steelblood
      Hall of Famer
      • May 2008
      • 4166

      #3
      Originally posted by Coolie Man
      At his pro day his best 40 was 4.9. holy Tao ran 4.8. They also said he doesn't train real hard. I don't want him at 1.17. Give me one of the stud guards.
      the training rumors are concerning, however, I have no concerns about his playing speed.
      Even if Bill Belichick was getting an atomic wedgie, his face would look exactly the same.

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      • Siggy00
        Backup
        • Mar 2013
        • 452

        #4
        Play-makers please. Wides, running backs, corners, etc.

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        • SS Laser
          Pro Bowler
          • Apr 2009
          • 1929

          #5
          A OLB is not a play maker? Ask James how that interception in the super bowl was? Ask Woodley about the sack at the end of the same superbowl. Plus in the first it should go BPA (for the Steelers) PERIOD!

          Do I want this kid? Not so sure. Looks like he has huge bust potential.

          Also as it is most times Crash, you keep beating the SAME drum in every thread. Could you add some thoughts about Jones? Why he is a good or bad pick?

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          • Siggy00
            Backup
            • Mar 2013
            • 452

            #6
            A OLB is not a play maker? Ask James how that interception in the super bowl was?
            James made that play on his own, he was supposed to blitz, recognized the play from an earlier game, and freelanced it.

            Jones is slow, we also don't have the time to wait for him to pay his dues and "learn the system" for 3 years (as if rushing the QB takes some sort of mensa member).

            This draft should be all about offense. If they pick any defense? I pick corners and safeties.

            Spreading teams out is the future of this league. Goodell's rules are making that happen. Need guys who can cover.

            Adapt or die.

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            • RuthlessBurgher
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 33208

              #7
              Originally posted by Siggy00
              James made that play on his own, he was supposed to blitz, recognized the play from an earlier game, and freelanced it.

              Jones is slow, we also don't have the time to wait for him to pay his dues and "learn the system" for 3 years (as if rushing the QB takes some sort of mensa member).

              This draft should be all about offense. If they pick any defense? I pick corners and safeties.

              Spreading teams out is the future of this league. Goodell's rules are making that happen. Need guys who can cover.

              Adapt or die.
              Putting the QB on his back before he can get the pass off is another way to stop the pass.
              Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

              Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

              We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

              We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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              • Siggy00
                Backup
                • Mar 2013
                • 452

                #8
                Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                Putting the QB on his back before he can get the pass off is another way to stop the pass.
                When your defense gets spread out? Your OLB's are in coverage. How many games have you seen against us when a good team goes 3-4 wides and James and Woodley are backing up in zone coverage?

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                • SS Laser
                  Pro Bowler
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 1929

                  #9
                  I bet Harrison is not very 40 fast either. You also still need to rush the QB and stop the run. The vikings did ok just running the ball last year. But I do see your point. But you can not let the defense die.

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                  • hawaiiansteel
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 35649

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Siggy00
                    James made that play on his own, he was supposed to blitz, recognized the play from an earlier game, and freelanced it.
                    and how is that not being a playmaker?

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                    • JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
                      Hall of Famer
                      • May 2008
                      • 3937

                      #11
                      Is his splits and agility drills posted? He plays fast on tape. Besides his health, the only concern I had was about his playing strength. He doesn't have the frame to add more bulk and if he does...Does his agility decline.

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                      • pfelix73
                        Hall of Famer
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 3458

                        #12
                        Terrell Suggs ran about the same time at his pro day....Just sayin'.
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                        • D Rock
                          Hall of Famer
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 2797

                          #13
                          Good. He's more like to be available at 1.17 now.

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                          • JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
                            Hall of Famer
                            • May 2008
                            • 3937

                            #14
                            It would be a surprise to me if the Steelers did draft him even if he was there.

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                            • Siggy00
                              Backup
                              • Mar 2013
                              • 452

                              #15
                              Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                              and how is that not being a playmaker?
                              It was a big play. But James is an OLB. Their job is to rush the quarterback. LB's like Timmons, who can play the run, and cover within 10 yards of the LOS in the middle and the flats are the future of this league. I think OLB rushers like James and Woodley are going to become afterthoughts because of the rules Goodell wants. Teams are going to ditch the 3-4 scheme and go back to the 4-3. You can add more players in the secondary to cover the spread offenses with multiple receiver sets and try to get pressure from the DL.

                              Tomlin IMO will install his Tampa Two scheme the minute LeBeau is out the door.

                              You guys need to understand that Goodell is changing the game. Things that occurred in 2008 will feel like it was 30 years ago by the time he's done.

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