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I'm with you ... I don't care much for the underware olympics. My evaluation would be based on film and interviews. This guy seems like he could be a difference maker on defense. Allow us to make more "splash" plays. If he isn't available at 17 then look to trade back and take the TE from either ND or Stanford. I think either of those could be a playmaker for us.
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As many on this site think ... The Rooney's suck, Colbert sucks, Tomlin sucks, the coaches suck, and the players suck.
but Go Steelers!!!
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pass....give me Chase Thomas1. CB – Marcus Peters – Washington – 6/190
2. OG – Josue Matias – Florida State – 6-6/320
3. OLB – Geneo Grissom – Oklahoma – 6-4/250
4. DL – Ellis McCarthy – UCLA – 6-5/330
5. TE – Jeff Heurman – Ohio State – 6-5/255
6. FS – Adrian Amos – Penn State – 6/200
7. DT – Terry Williams – East Carolina – 6-1/340
UDFA
DB – Justin Cox – Mississippi St. – 6-2/190
OLB – Davis Tull – Chattanooga – 6-2/242Comment
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players who rise or fall based on workouts, generally are the busts (if they rise) and steals (if they fall)... 1.17, steal... i'll take it...2013 MNF Executive Champion!Comment
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Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.
Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.
We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.
We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.Comment
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Yup, I think they are very close to being the same player. Jones is a 'football player' so is Thomas but he has no health concerns and is available 2 rounds later.
Player Name Solo Ast Tot Loss Sk Int Yds Avg TD PD FR Yds TD FF
Jarvis Jones: 96 72 168 45.5 28.0 1 21 21.0 0 6 0 0 0 9
[URL]http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/jarvis-jones-1.html[/URL]
Player Name: Solo Ast Tot Loss Sk Int Yds Avg TD PD FR Yds TD FF
Chase Thomas: 145 84 229 50.5 27.5 2 2 1.0 0 8 1 7 1 9
[URL]http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/chase-thomas-1.html[/URL]
Thomas started 3 years, Jones started 2. Jones rushes the passer better stat-wise but I would bet based off what i have seen that Thomas dropped in coverage more and had less opportunities to rush, plus he is better against the run.
Edit *sorry the stats are hard to read couldn't get the formatting to stay*Last edited by focosteeler; 03-23-2013, 03:02 AM.1. CB – Marcus Peters – Washington – 6/190
2. OG – Josue Matias – Florida State – 6-6/320
3. OLB – Geneo Grissom – Oklahoma – 6-4/250
4. DL – Ellis McCarthy – UCLA – 6-5/330
5. TE – Jeff Heurman – Ohio State – 6-5/255
6. FS – Adrian Amos – Penn State – 6/200
7. DT – Terry Williams – East Carolina – 6-1/340
UDFA
DB – Justin Cox – Mississippi St. – 6-2/190
OLB – Davis Tull – Chattanooga – 6-2/242Comment
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Perhaps Jones is "sandbagging" just a little so that he goes to a better team."My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"Comment
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It could be argued to being on a successful team with other good players around you will earn you more on the 2nd contract that will offset the first contract losses.
Will Jarvis Jones draw more of the offenses attention playing next to Lamarr Woodley and Lawrence Timmons with Troy Polamalu floating around...
...or surrounded by Paul Poslusny, Geno Hayes, and the rest of the Jaguars no-name defence?Comment
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Watching tape of Jones on youtube, the Alabama game in particular, he was a beast while pass rushing, forcing fumbles and getting after the QB. He was a liability against the run, getting pushed around and even picked on as they chose to run his way more often than not.
He isn't really comparable to Harrison because while Harrison has been a workout warrior that was rumored to be the strongest Steeler, Jones is rumored to be a guy that doesn't like to workout.
IMO, his ability to beat tackles 1 on 1, reap havoc in the back field and force fumbles makes him worth 1.17, but he will need to get busy in the weight room, and get much stronger than his 20 reps to reach his potential in the NFL.sigpic
Another AS masterpiece.Comment
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Here is another point I got for you guys. Jones is used to just being good. No real need to train hard. Does he have the drive to get better in the NFL? Or will he get fat & lazy. Could he end up like Woodley? Small health problems leading to a sloopy player that has derailed a good career. This new generation of players seem to be happy to get paid and not care about being champs and killing it in the NFL. Need more Harrisons who work for it.Comment
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2013 NFL Draft: Two prospects go in opposite directions after Pro Days
By Neal Coolong on Mar 22 2013
Utah defensive tackle Star Lotulelei checked out medically at his Pro Day while Georgia's Jarvis Jones suffered a major setback.
If you're hearing quiet thuds on the ground, it could be the sound of millions of dollars falling out of the pockets of Georgia outside linebacker Jarvis Jones.
He reportedly ran a 4.92 in the 40 at his Pro Day Thursday, all but assuring he'll be available for the Steelers with the 17th overall pick. He'll probably be available for several teams after that as well.
His mediocre 20 reps of 225 pounds in the bench press aren't going to help a player who has been knocked for his ability to win 1-on-1s at the point of attack.
According to NFL.com, Jones said "I'm a football player. It's about football, right? I'm a football player. That's what I do. At the end of the day, you get those drills - I'm not saying they ain't worth nothing - but you get those drills, running the 40 and all that stuff. You could get someone off the street who can run a 4.3, but they can't play football. That's easy."
Those guys who ran a 4.3 at least show the ability to get from Point A to B at the speed of an NFL player. He does make a realistic point, although, it's one made by those who do not perform well in those drills.
Utah's Star Lotulelei did not disappoint in those drills. He repped 225 pounds 38 times on the bench, and had an impressive 4.65 time in the short shuttle.
More importantly, though, the alleged heart issue that kept him out of workouts at the NFL Scouting Combine were put to rest. Doctors fully cleared him, saying the abnormality that caused his left ventricle to only be pumping blood at 44 percent efficiency (55-70 percent is considered normal) is gone, and could simply have been caused by a cold.
So the Steelers can scratch his name off their list of likely picks at No. 17. It was fun while it lasted.
[URL]http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2013/3/22/4134750/2013-nfl-draft-prospects-steelers-pro-days-rumors[/URL]Comment
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Must admit- his gametape & workout tape don't seem to be similar at all.
Question for the pro-Jones people- does the same argument pro-Jones hold true for Damontre Moore, who looks good on tape but really bad in workouts?The people that are trying to make the world worse never take a day off, why should I?
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