NO ONE has answered this, our OL injuries waiting to happen

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  • lloydroid
    Pro Bowler
    • Aug 2012
    • 2026

    NO ONE has answered this, our OL injuries waiting to happen

    As I was watching the Super Bowl, and obvious trend played out in front of my two eyes: Both SF and Balt. could run plays and fully expect their OL men to not fall down with an injury every other play. They are able to play football and not suffer injuries all over the OL. As a matter of fact, I believe SF has played EVERY DOWN this year with the exact same OL in tact. EVERY down.

    We have ALL lamented over our OL injuries. but I want to know why; why do our OLmen regularly fall down to injury? What is Pgh doing wrong? I am no longer going to write it off to just bad luck. There must be a reason Pgh has so many injuries. What kind of training do they have these guys doing? Are they over-working them in the weight room, leading to injuries? I have yet to hear what Pgh does specifically in the weight room, which could lead to this. For instance, do they have the fellas lifting free weights, in the power rack (squats, dead lifts) adding further stress to their legs. leading to injuries from over-working the knees, ankles, etc? Some trainers/coaches believe hitting heavy weights during the season, and preseason for that matter, just puts too much stress on the joints, ligaments, etc. and will lead to injuries. Are the Steelers clueless on this front? It is highly possible, as something is being done fricked up to make so many injuries occur.
  • Oviedo
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 23824

    #2
    You're right. Steelers are just screwed up and not as good as other teams. We should just fire Colbert, Tomlin and the rest of the coaches. Start all over.
    "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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    • lloydroid
      Pro Bowler
      • Aug 2012
      • 2026

      #3
      Originally posted by Oviedo
      You're right. Steelers are just screwed up and not as good as other teams. We should just fire Colbert, Tomlin and the rest of the coaches. Start all over.
      Why are you resorting to a straw man argument, intellectual dishonesty and not addressing the specific subject of the post? Anyone can deal in straw man arguments, as they are the weakest, least intelligent form of discussion. Stick to the subject at hand, or shut your stink hole.

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      • supersteeler
        Pro Bowler
        • Dec 2012
        • 1089

        #4
        Pittsburgh Steelers investigate 2012 spate of injuries
        By Sian Cowper, Reporter
        Filed: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 at 15:15 UK
        Last Updated: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 at 22:24 UK
        The Pittsburgh Steelers have said that they will look into why so many players sustained injuries during the 2012 season.

        Quarterbacks Ben Roethlisberger and Byron Leftwich, safety Troy Polamalu and wide receiver Antonio Brown were among the players to miss multiple games with injuries in the regular season.

        Steelers president Art Rooney II told the team's website: "It does happen sort of in cycles, and hopefully we're getting through this cycle. But having said that I don't think we can just sit here and believe we'll come to the end of the cycle.

        "We have to look at everything we're doing, and we will look at everything we're doing, from the training and conditioning side of things, from a practice side of things and see if there are things we can do to get better.

        "Conditioning is something that's always evolving, people are always coming up with new ideas on how to train, and so we'll look at all of that."

        The Steelers missed the playoffs for just the second time in six seasons.

        Now ya have it FO wheel

        [url]http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2013/1/11/3862412/2012-pittsburgh-steelers-injuries-injured-reserve-how-many-games-were-actually-lost-missed-playoffs[/url]

        Quote from a person in the article: Some of the o-line injuries may be attributed to Ben holding the ball at times. This probably increases the chance to get rolled up on from the back side.
        Last edited by supersteeler; 02-07-2013, 05:58 PM.
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        • lloydroid
          Pro Bowler
          • Aug 2012
          • 2026

          #5
          Originally posted by supersteeler
          Pittsburgh Steelers investigate 2012 spate of injuries
          By Sian Cowper, Reporter
          Filed: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 at 15:15 UK
          Last Updated: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 at 22:24 UK
          The Pittsburgh Steelers have said that they will look into why so many players sustained injuries during the 2012 season.

          Quarterbacks Ben Roethlisberger and Byron Leftwich, safety Troy Polamalu and wide receiver Antonio Brown were among the players to miss multiple games with injuries in the regular season.

          Steelers president Art Rooney II told the team's website: "It does happen sort of in cycles, and hopefully we're getting through this cycle. But having said that I don't think we can just sit here and believe we'll come to the end of the cycle.

          "We have to look at everything we're doing, and we will look at everything we're doing, from the training and conditioning side of things, from a practice side of things and see if there are things we can do to get better.

          "Conditioning is something that's always evolving, people are always coming up with new ideas on how to train, and so we'll look at all of that."

          The Steelers missed the playoffs for just the second time in six seasons.

          Now ya have it FO wheel

          [url]http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2013/1/11/3862412/2012-pittsburgh-steelers-injuries-injured-reserve-how-many-games-were-actually-lost-missed-playoffs[/url]
          Yes, I saw this article, but thanks. Last time I was in the Steelers' weight room, they were doing pretty antiquated work outs, using pyramid schemes with things like bench pressing, etc. Other teams are using much more modern techniques and I was wondering if Pgh has since gone more modern with their way of working out. If they are still having super overweight OLmen hitting it with heavy squats during the season, there is no wonder why they are experiencing so many injuries.

          Fo wheel. I did find this about our conditioning coach.

          “My training philosophy is to get the midline in shape and then make the circle a little larger and a little larger around the body,” says Garrett Giemont, strength and conditioning coach for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. “When you look at that philosophy and then at Pilates, a trainer can see that it is a great adjunct to what he or she is trying to accomplish from an overall conditioning standpoint.”

          One Buccaneer who has seen a difference is punter Josh Bidwell. Bidwell began doing Pilates mat exercises during the 2004 season and statistically had his best overall season. This year he began working on a reformer. “As a punter I put tremendous pressure on my hamstrings, my lower back and my glutes,” says Bidwell. I'm not the most flexible person but Pilates has defiantly lengthened my muscles and increased my agility. I can really feel it in the way I move.” Bidwell had also been bothered by periodic, painful flare-ups in his lower back. But since he started Pilates that trouble has disappeared. “It is completely gone,” says Bidwell.

          As costs of amateur and professional sports continue escalating, keeping an athlete on the field and off the injured list becomes paramount. Trainers who implement Pilates as a component to their conditioning programs will see increased results in flexibility, durability and strength.

          Says Giemont: “When you take an athlete with a tremendous skill level and then give them the tools of length, strength and balance on a continual basis, it elevates their performance to an entirely new level.”
          [url]http://stottpilates.se/aboutus/articles/PilatesTrainerSecret.html[/url]

          He seemed to be barking up the right tree, for 1998, any how. At least he understands the benefits of training the core. That's a good start. But I hope they aren't having the guys lift heavy during the season; if they are, they can start at fixing the injury problem right there. If they are having the OLmen doing power rack stuff during the year, they are really F-ing up right there. They have to know better than that, right?

          Fo wheel

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          • phillyesq
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 7568

            #6
            Originally posted by lloydroid
            What kind of training do they have these guys doing? Are they over-working them in the weight room, leading to injuries? I have yet to hear what Pgh does specifically in the weight room, which could lead to this. For instance, do they have the fellas lifting free weights, in the power rack (squats, dead lifts) adding further stress to their legs. leading to injuries from over-working the knees, ankles, etc? Some trainers/coaches believe hitting heavy weights during the season, and preseason for that matter, just puts too much stress on the joints, ligaments, etc. and will lead to injuries. Are the Steelers clueless on this front? It is highly possible, as something is being done fricked up to make so many injuries occur.
            I have no idea what your qualifications are but I'm pretty sure that the Steelers have a professional training staff.

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            • BigRob
              Pro Bowler
              • Jul 2008
              • 1381

              #7
              Originally posted by lloydroid
              Last time I was in the Steelers' weight room
              Ha hahahahahahahaha, funniest joke I've heard all day. Thanks for the laugh.
              Here comes the BOOM!
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              • lloydroid
                Pro Bowler
                • Aug 2012
                • 2026

                #8
                Originally posted by BigRob
                Ha hahahahahahahaha, funniest joke I've heard all day. Thanks for the laugh.
                Give out that huge belly laugh all you want. You'd be embarrassed if you only knew. But live in ignorance. It works for you.

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                • lloydroid
                  Pro Bowler
                  • Aug 2012
                  • 2026

                  #9
                  Originally posted by phillyesq
                  I have no idea what your qualifications are but I'm pretty sure that the Steelers have a professional training staff.
                  Assume all you want, but at one time, the guy they had in charge of conditioning was more of a pencil pusher than anyone who knew leading edge work out techniques.

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                  • BigRob
                    Pro Bowler
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 1381

                    #10
                    Originally posted by lloydroid
                    if you only knew
                    Only those with truly nothing to boast about use this line. Insecure much?
                    Here comes the BOOM!
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                    • Shawn
                      Legend
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 15131

                      #11
                      Considering no injuries on the OL is not the norm but rather an exception...I see why SF was successful rather than a question about the Steelers training.
                      Trolls are people too.

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                      • Chadman
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 6537

                        #12
                        Funny how the guy that claims to be in on the Steelers training is the one asking why the Steelers suffer 'all these injuries- maybe it's due to training?'.

                        Dude- maybe it's you?
                        The people that are trying to make the world worse never take a day off, why should I?

                        Light up the darkness.

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                        • bostonsteeler
                          Pro Bowler
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 1529

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Chadman
                          Funny how the guy that claims to be in on the Steelers training is the one asking why the Steelers suffer 'all these injuries- maybe it's due to training?'.

                          Dude- maybe it's you?
                          He didn't claim to be in on the Steelers' training. He claimed to have been in their training room a long time ago.

                          I've met a couple of guys who claimed to have been in NFL training rooms (and who I believe were telling the truth). They were not NFL players, although they were both related to one. I wouldn't be surprised to find another such on a steelers bboard. They're not as uncommon as you'd think.

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                          • D Rock
                            Hall of Famer
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 2797

                            #14
                            Originally posted by bostonsteeler
                            He didn't claim to be in on the Steelers' training. He claimed to have been in their training room a long time ago.

                            I've met a couple of guys who claimed to have been in NFL training rooms (and who I believe were telling the truth). They were not NFL players, although they were both related to one. I wouldn't be surprised to find another such on a steelers bboard. They're not as uncommon as you'd think.

                            funny story along those lines...I found out yesterday that a guy I work with is Drew Butler's uncle.

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                            • Shawn
                              Legend
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 15131

                              #15
                              Originally posted by bostonsteeler
                              He didn't claim to be in on the Steelers' training. He claimed to have been in their training room a long time ago.

                              I've met a couple of guys who claimed to have been in NFL training rooms (and who I believe were telling the truth). They were not NFL players, although they were both related to one. I wouldn't be surprised to find another such on a steelers bboard. They're not as uncommon as you'd think.
                              Yeah, I remember Cedrick Wilson's cousin back in the day...now that was comedy.
                              Trolls are people too.

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