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  • Chadman
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 6537

    #16
    Originally posted by bostonsteeler
    He didn't claim to be in on the Steelers' training. He claimed to have been in their training room a long time ago.

    I've met a couple of guys who claimed to have been in NFL training rooms (and who I believe were telling the truth). They were not NFL players, although they were both related to one. I wouldn't be surprised to find another such on a steelers bboard. They're not as uncommon as you'd think.
    True, she could be the sanitary bin cleaner... or the overpaid janitor.

    Hadn't considered those options.
    The people that are trying to make the world worse never take a day off, why should I?

    Light up the darkness.

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    • SS Laser
      Pro Bowler
      • Apr 2009
      • 1929

      #17
      I am lost here. The OP is trying to say the Steelers training methods are "old" in this thread. In other threads he makes fun of Troy P. for doing "new" training methods. This is not the OP's first argument I mean posts that go in circles. Boy I hope the mods are really watching. He is getting to crash level fast. Time for the ignore button I guess.

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      • pittpete
        Legend
        • Aug 2008
        • 6825

        #18
        I stayed at a Holiday Inn last night
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        • phillyesq
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 7568

          #19
          Originally posted by lloydroid
          Assume all you want, but at one time, the guy they had in charge of conditioning was more of a pencil pusher than anyone who knew leading edge work out techniques.
          What are your qualifications? Did you buy P90x? Please share. And thanks for the comic relief.

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          • Shawn
            Legend
            • Mar 2008
            • 15131

            #20
            Originally posted by SS Laser
            I am lost here. The OP is trying to say the Steelers training methods are "old" in this thread. In other threads he makes fun of Troy P. for doing "new" training methods. This is not the OP's first argument I mean posts that go in circles. Boy I hope the mods are really watching. He is getting to crash level fast. Time for the ignore button I guess.
            Don't insult Crash like that.
            Trolls are people too.

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            • BigRob
              Pro Bowler
              • Jul 2008
              • 1381

              #21
              Originally posted by bostonsteeler
              He didn't claim to be in on the Steelers' training. He claimed to have been in their training room a long time ago.

              I've met a couple of guys who claimed to have been in NFL training rooms (and who I believe were telling the truth). They were not NFL players, although they were both related to one. I wouldn't be surprised to find another such on a steelers bboard. They're not as uncommon as you'd think.
              I stayed in a Holiday Inn Express last night. Now I'm qualified to critique the Steelers training staff.
              Here comes the BOOM!
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              • Eddie Spaghetti
                Hall of Famer
                • Jul 2008
                • 4123

                #22
                hemorrhoids, errrr lyodroid will clear all this up when he gets home from school.

                5th grade is tough y'all.

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                • lloydroid
                  Pro Bowler
                  • Aug 2012
                  • 2026

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Shawn
                  Considering no injuries on the OL is not the norm but rather an exception...I see why SF was successful rather than a question about the Steelers training.
                  True, but Pgh's history of OL injuries is not the norm either - it is exceptionally high. You DO realize that, right? Therefore, looking into their training and conditioning practices IS appropriate.

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                  • lloydroid
                    Pro Bowler
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 2026

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Eddie Spaghetti
                    hemorrhoids, errrr lyodroid will clear all this up when he gets home from school.

                    5th grade is tough y'all.
                    Mods, do you enforce board rules?

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                    • lloydroid
                      Pro Bowler
                      • Aug 2012
                      • 2026

                      #25
                      Originally posted by BigRob
                      I stayed in a Holiday Inn Express last night. Now I'm qualified to critique the Steelers training staff.
                      I think anyone paying attention is qualified to question the methods of the Steelers' training as their level of excessive injuries is beyond the norm. SOMETHING needs questioned. Are they doing heavy power rack work during the season? Many experts say this will lead to too many foot, ankle and knee injuries. ARE they doing heavy power rack lifting during the season or not? (It also doesn't help that they let too many players get excessively fat and sloppy, and being a fatso leads to more injuries, as your joints and ligaments have that much more additional stress to contend with.)

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                      • lloydroid
                        Pro Bowler
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 2026

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Chadman
                        Funny how the guy that claims to be in on the Steelers training is the one asking why the Steelers suffer 'all these injuries- maybe it's due to training?'.

                        Dude- maybe it's you?
                        Do you have a reading and comprehension problem? Or are you just dealing with straw man arguments? I never said I was "in on the current Steelers training" - on the contrary - I was asking if anyone knew what they were doing, CLEARLY ILLUSTRATING that I did not know their current practices, but rather only their FORMER practices which were not very leading edge. Now, do you want to discuss the ACTUAL POINT or just mindlessly blather about?
                        Last edited by lloydroid; 02-08-2013, 04:30 PM.

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                        • Slapstick
                          Rookie
                          • May 2008
                          • 0

                          #27
                          Originally posted by lloydroid
                          True, but Pgh's history of OL injuries is not the norm either - it is exceptionally high. You DO realize that, right? Therefore, looking into their training and conditioning practices IS appropriate.
                          Neither is the health of the Ravens O-Line and the Niners O-Line the norm...
                          Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                          • lloydroid
                            Pro Bowler
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 2026

                            #28
                            Originally posted by BigRob
                            Only those with truly nothing to boast about use this line. Insecure much?
                            Hahahhaah, what bothers you is you know you are light years away from any from this, if you can even see your feet. Go ahead and hate; it's all you got, after all.

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                            • lloydroid
                              Pro Bowler
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 2026

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Chadman
                              True, she could be the sanitary bin cleaner... or the overpaid janitor.

                              Hadn't considered those options.
                              There are a colossal amount of options you don't consider every day, it would appear.

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                              • lloydroid
                                Pro Bowler
                                • Aug 2012
                                • 2026

                                #30
                                Originally posted by SS Laser
                                I am lost here. The OP is trying to say the Steelers training methods are "old" in this thread. In other threads he makes fun of Troy P. for doing "new" training methods. This is not the OP's first argument I mean posts that go in circles. Boy I hope the mods are really watching. He is getting to crash level fast. Time for the ignore button I guess.
                                Let's try to help you. First of all, stop putting words in my mouth; straw man arguments are a sign of weakness. I didn't say their training methods were "old" I merely said that a fairly long time ago, they were and I was QUESTIONING what their current methods were, since there is such an obvious trend of injuries, especially to the big guys. I QUESTIONED what their current training methods were, something that no one in here seems able to answer. Secondly, the two points are not mutually exclusive: It is indeed possible for both points to be true. That is, Steelers MAYBE using antiquated methods AND Troy's past methods may be lacking in their OWN WAY. BOTH points can be true - they can both exist. They are NOT mutually exclusive. Can you grasp this concept? Please try. If Pgh has their big guys training heavy on the power rack during the season, it would be ill advised. If Troy training without any weights heavier than 20 lbs, as it has been reported, that method may be lacking as well. Try to comprehend those points.

                                Now, does anyone want to actually address the original post or is all you can do is offer ad hominem attacks?

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