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  • Captain Lemming
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    • Jun 2008
    • 16041

    Originally posted by Crash
    You are comparing a totally different game then to the one Roger Goodell is creating NOW.
    Minus the opening dig, this is your best point.
    Nevertheless, nobody is even TRYING to do what we did back then with an elite QB. Only teams with scrub QBs do this.
    I believe that with all the emphasis on passing teams are actually LESS able to handle a team with an equally scary run and pass game.
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    I liked what Houston was doing before Shuab got hurt. San Fran is close. Both have QBs that are close but not quite there yet. Put a truly elite QB on those teams and you have a dynasty.
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    In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

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    The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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    • Crash
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      • Apr 2009
      • 5008

      Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
      he was broken by the end of the year with us running less than 45% of the time and passing more than 55% of the time.

      no, it didn't work and that's one of the many reasons Bruce Arians is no longer employed by the Pittsburgh Steelers.
      Wow, 55% passing. That's run n shoot I tell ya.

      Only in friggin' Pittsburgh do people want a HOF QB to be Trent Dilfer.

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      • Crash
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        • Apr 2009
        • 5008

        Originally posted by Captain Lemming
        Put a truly elite QB on those teams and you have a dynasty.
        Schaub threw the ball 30 times a game. You don't want that in Pittsburgh. You want Cowher Ball.
        Last edited by Crash; 06-13-2012, 02:44 AM.

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        • hawaiiansteel
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          • May 2008
          • 35648

          Originally posted by Crash
          Wow, 55% passing. That's run n shoot I tell ya.

          Only in friggin' Pittsburgh do people want a HOF QB to be Trent Dilfer.
          I don't want him to be Trent Dilfer, I want Ben to be healthy at the end of the year and not hobbling around like a gimp.

          with us passing over 55% of the time and with Arians' love for calling slow developing 7-step drop passes behind an inferior OL he almost got our franchise QB killed. if Ben wasn't so damn tough he would have been, it was definitely time for a new OC who could understand that and who would also be able to design less predictable running plays and more efficient plays once we got into the red zone.

          Ben wasn't the problem, but Arians most definitely was and he had to go so Ben can realize his full and immense potential.

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          • Crash
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            • Apr 2009
            • 5008

            The problems on offense was the commitment to the run, which is what ownership wanted.

            Arians did what the lawyer wanted, and he still got fired.

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            • hawaiiansteel
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              • May 2008
              • 35648

              Originally posted by Crash
              The problems on offense was the commitment to the run, which is what ownership wanted.

              Arians did what the lawyer wanted, and he still got fired.

              we ran less than 45% of the time, does that sound like a commitment to the run to you?

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              • Crash
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                • Apr 2009
                • 5008

                58% on first down, and 65% on 1st down in the red zone.

                That's commitment to the run game. Almost to the point of obsession.

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                • hawaiiansteel
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                  • May 2008
                  • 35648

                  Originally posted by Crash
                  58% on first down, and 65% on 1st down in the red zone.

                  That's commitment to the run game. Almost to the point of obsession.

                  no, that's being predictable.

                  yet another reason why Arians had to go.

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                  • Crash
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                    • Apr 2009
                    • 5008

                    Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                    no, that's being predictable.

                    yet another reason why Arians had to go.
                    But he did what he was told.

                    You watch what people say if Haley tries to open up the offense and they aren't winning.

                    RUN THE BALL! Play offense like they did when you're Daddy was here! You are from Pittsburgh, you know we run the ball here!

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                    • hawaiiansteel
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                      • May 2008
                      • 35648

                      Originally posted by Crash
                      But he did what he was told.
                      Arians wasn't told he had to run the ball 58% on first down and 65% on 1st down in the red zone. that was his choice, he could have passed the ball on first down and ran on second and/or 3rd downs.

                      but Arians was predictable and stubborn, and that's ultimately what led to his dismissal.

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                      • Crash
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                        • Apr 2009
                        • 5008

                        Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                        Arians wasn't told he had to run the ball 58% on first down and 65% on 1st down in the red zone. that was his choice, he could have passed the ball on first down and ran on second and/or 3rd downs.

                        but Arians was predictable and stubborn, and that's ultimately what led to his dismissal.
                        And LeBeau isn't? Arians was fired because someone had to be, and Art won't want to look like a bad guy by forcing LeBeau out.

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                        • squidkid
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                          • Feb 2012
                          • 5847

                          Originally posted by Crash
                          And how many of those passes are in obvious situations at the end of halves or games?

                          Two minutes to go down 7 points, what should they do? Run the ball, chew the clock, lose, and go home?
                          gezzus crash, did you think the steelers were the only team in the league that had to play the last two minutes of a game? the only team that had halves and finals? do yoy really think the steelers were down by 7 with 2 minutes to go more than any other team in the league?
                          steelers = 3 ring circus with tomlin being the head clown

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                          • Slapstick
                            Rookie
                            • May 2008
                            • 0

                            Originally posted by Crash
                            And LeBeau isn't? Arians was fired because someone had to be, and Art won't want to look like a bad guy by forcing LeBeau out.
                            LeBeau called a defense that was #1 in scoring...

                            Arians called an offense that was 21st in scoring...with elite talent at QB and WR...and a 1st round pick at RB...
                            Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                            • Slapstick
                              Rookie
                              • May 2008
                              • 0

                              Originally posted by Crash
                              Schaub threw the ball 30 times a game. You don't want that in Pittsburgh. You want Cowher Ball.
                              I would love for Ben to throw the ball 30 times per game...

                              Believe it or not, that would actually be less than last season...
                              Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                              • Crash
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                                • Apr 2009
                                • 5008

                                Originally posted by Slapstick
                                LeBeau called a defense that was #1 in scoring
                                Can't give up points when the offense keeps you off the field Slap.

                                Arians called an offense that was 21st in scoring...with elite talent at QB and WR...and a 1st round pick at RB...
                                Can't score a ton of points when you go 80 yards every drive (which keeps the defense off the field) and then are forced to run the ball. Said #1 pick at RB also battled nagging injuries all year behind an OL that was injured all year as well.

                                You read, I'll WATCH.
                                Last edited by Crash; 06-13-2012, 11:45 AM.

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