Neil Rackers Really Doesn't Like Haley

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Re: Neil Rackers Really Doesn't Like Haley

I have the same concern as most about Haley... in that he's got into heated arguments with his players.

HOWEVER, I don't care if the players have a love affair with him. What's most important is that the players respect him.

The players may not be "buddy", "buddy" with Haley but they need to respect him. As a coach, respect is much more important.

You mean like the "great" Bill Cowher yelling and spitting in the faces of his players but to many he is the type of coach they worship. Haley gets in a players face and he is out of control.

Bottomline is that we are seeing that no OC will ever please Steelers fans. They will always dig up something from the past because everyone plays Madden and therefore there are thousands of great offensive minds.

I think its all about earning the respect, buying into the system. If players respect him i don't think shouting or getting angry is going to be an issue.

If Todd haley tries to come with my way or highway attitude well i don't think its going to work. Todd Haley is not working with bunch of rookies. He will have to earn the respect and that part will be interesting.

The only respect I think Haley needs is showing these talented chumps how to score some points.

Why are we giving an offense that "underperformed" so much respect? I know we have talented players but they aren't living up to the hype when we look at efficiency and execution in the red zone.

What does a new OC have to earn? Besides Ben, we have a young group on offense and they need to earn Haley's respect by showing him they can buy in and perform.

If Haley goes in with a "I don't want to hurt your feelings, tell me what feels good" attitude he will be gone with the quickness... as long as we don't have any Sweed's on our team we will be fine.

[RuthlessBurgher]

Re: Neil Rackers Really Doesn't Like Haley

as long as we don't have any Sweed's on our team we will be fine.

Oh wait...you said Sweeds, not Swedes.

[Mo_Steel]

Re: Neil Rackers Really Doesn't Like Haley

as long as we don't have any Sweed's on our team we will be fine.

Oh wait...you said Sweeds, not Swedes.

That is good...

I think Peyton said this best "our drunk idiot kicker" come on we're talking about a kicker. We are also talking about a kicker that is probably not as accurate as some of the qb's he's played with; there's some exaggeration there but not much 79.5 fgm pct for career.

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Re: Neil Rackers Really Doesn't Like Haley

I have the same concern as most about Haley... in that he's got into heated arguments with his players.

HOWEVER, I don't care if the players have a love affair with him. What's most important is that the players respect him.

The players may not be "buddy", "buddy" with Haley but they need to respect him. As a coach, respect is much more important.

If they respect the coach they will play for him no matter what.

No if they collect a check from the organization they will play for him. How they play will depend on how much self respect they have, whether they respect the coach or not.

[ikestops85]

Re: Neil Rackers Really Doesn't Like Haley

I have the same concern as most about Haley... in that he's got into heated arguments with his players.

HOWEVER, I don't care if the players have a love affair with him. What's most important is that the players respect him.

The players may not be "buddy", "buddy" with Haley but they need to respect him. As a coach, respect is much more important.

You mean like the "great" Bill Cowher yelling and spitting in the faces of his players but to many he is the type of coach they worship. Haley gets in a players face and he is out of control.

Bottomline is that we are seeing that no OC will ever please Steelers fans. They will always dig up something from the past because everyone plays Madden and therefore there are thousands of great offensive minds.

Yes, Cowher got in players faces yelling and spitting ... but did you ever see a player return that in kind? Cowher had the respect of his players before he started doing that. We have seen several instances of Haley getting in a screaming "match" with players. If players are yelling back at him they aren't showing him respect. Yes, that worries me.

The bottom line is not that no OC will ever please Steeler fans. If Clements was hired I think the board would have overwhelmingly applauded it. If Caldwell was hired I think the board would have exploded from the protesting. I don't like the Haley hire for the following reasons:

1) Haley has a checkered reputation with his players. Some like and respect him but far too many don't. This isn't horrible (I don't think many Giant players like Coughlin) but it is a consideration.

2) I'm not sold on Haley's qualifications as an OC. Was Arizona's offense successful because of Haley or because of Warner/Fitz? The one good year KC had on offense Weis was calling the plays.

3) He ran Gailey off 2 weeks before the season started in his first year in KC and called the plays himself. His offense was horrible. He hired Weis as OC his second year and the offense did very well. Weis then ran off because he couldn't get along with Haley. Not getting along with players is one thing but not getting along with coaches is a red flag for me.

Okay, those are my reasons for not jumping up and down for joy on the Haley hire. I hope he becomes the best OC in NFL history. I hope he has our offense averaging 30 points a game next year. I only care that he gets results but until he does you can color me cautiously optimistic with emphasis on the cautious.