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  • Slapstick
    Rookie
    • May 2008
    • 0

    #46
    Re: Cordy Glenn is the real deal!!

    Not every good player on the offensive line will be gone by #24...

    Glenn or Mike Adams will be ther and the Steelers will be able to pick one of them and improve the line...
    Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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    • ikestops85
      Hall of Famer
      • Jun 2008
      • 3724

      #47
      Re: Cordy Glenn is the real deal!!

      Originally posted by Oviedo
      Highly unlikely we get Glenn which likely means another season of mediocre Guard play and blaming the RBs and new OC for failure to have a consistent offense.
      Not that I don't think we need to improve the O line but Redman made that mediocre line look fairly decent in the last 2 games.
      As many on this site think ... The Rooney's suck, Colbert sucks, Tomlin sucks, the coaches suck, and the players suck.

      but Go Steelers!!!

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      • steelblood
        Hall of Famer
        • May 2008
        • 4166

        #48
        Re: Cordy Glenn is the real deal!!

        Originally posted by focosteeler
        Just because we might not get Glenn doesn't mean we won't have an oppourtunity to draft some guys that could really help us.

        Brandon Washington, Miami in the 2nd....Lucas Nix from Pitt in the 3rd. I think they would both be good upgrades for us upfront. And with no lockout this summer they should be able to win a starting spot in camp so we could have a consistant group in place all season
        Philip Blake the center from Baylor also has enough size to play guard. At the Senior Bowl, he played guard and looked good. He laid some crushing down blocks during the game and he moves pretty well. He is good at pass coverage and has that position flexibility.
        Even if Bill Belichick was getting an atomic wedgie, his face would look exactly the same.

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        • Dee Dub
          Hall of Famer
          • Jan 2010
          • 4652

          #49
          Re: Cordy Glenn is the real deal!!

          Originally posted by Slapstick
          Not every good player on the offensive line will be gone by #24...

          Glenn or Mike Adams will be ther and the Steelers will be able to pick one of them and improve the line...
          Slapstick, I disagree with you that Glenn will be there. He is a top 15 player. Let's assume I am right about Glenn, what impact player who could come right in on day one would be there at 24?

          I dont see that in Mike Adams. Maybe year two but not so sure year one.
          Steelers 2015 Draft???....Go Freak! As in....

          1-Bernardrick McKinney MLB Mississippi State 6 ft 5 250 4.5 40 yard dash

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          • Snatch98
            Pro Bowler
            • May 2008
            • 1451

            #50
            Re: Cordy Glenn is the real deal!!

            Originally posted by Dee Dub
            Originally posted by Slapstick
            Not every good player on the offensive line will be gone by #24...

            Glenn or Mike Adams will be ther and the Steelers will be able to pick one of them and improve the line...
            Slapstick, I disagree with you that Glenn will be there. He is a top 15 player. Let's assume I am right about Glenn, what impact player who could come right in on day one would be there at 24?

            I dont see that in Mike Adams. Maybe year two but not so sure year one.
            How many rookies come right in to the Steeler organization and start? It's kind of a moot point no? The rookies we've had start have HAD to start because of injury. It's also a testament to how the Steelers run the team. I'd love to get a crack at Glenn but he could be the next Branden Albert and you may be right. He may go in the top 15.

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            • Chadman
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 6537

              #51
              Re: Cordy Glenn is the real deal!!

              While we are talking about moving OG's to OT's, how about moving a couple of OC's to OG?

              2 names- Mike Brewster from Ohio St & Philip Blake of Baylor- both are smart, agile, strong & thickly built. Could they be potential OG's for the Steelers? Any actual insight into their play?

              Like some have mentioned before- OG's don't need to be 1st round ability types to succeed. If there is an 'easy' position along the OL- it's OG. Instead of drafting a 1st round OG & making him a LT, would the Steelers be better off finding a 2nd/3rd/4th round OC/OG & having them compete for the OG spots? Even an OT like Bergstrom out of Utah could be a potential OG in the NFL.

              Philip Blake-
              Pass blocking: Former right tackle possesses the length and footwork to mirror any interior lineman. Plays with low center of gravity, natural bend and lateral quickness. Flashes a strong enough anchor to pancake overextended defenders, but can be pushed backwards when his hands aren't on his man's numbers. Also gets out-quicked when hand placement is off. Reliable, accurate shotgun snapper.

              Run blocking: Strong run blocker capable of moving the nose tackle to his left or right with his upper body. Agile enough to seal to either side when uncovered. Inconsistent down-blocking and finding the mike linebacker on combo blocks in tight quarters, gets stuck at the line at times instead of moving to second level. Inconsistent intensity and hand placement to sustain after initial contact. Stops his feet too often, losing his balance or allowing his man comes off his block. Stays low, gets some movement in short-yardage situations but typically just holds the line.

              Pulling/trapping: Does not move behind the line often. Flashes the quickness and agility to pull from either the center or guard spots, but seems best staying inside due to lack of height and inconsistency hitting targets.

              Initial Quickness: Gets his hands onto his man quickly after shotgun snap. Flashes quickness out of his stance and the footwork to attack defensive tackles on stretch plays. Reaches instead of moving his feet after the snap at times, allows quicker tackles to penetrate into the A-gap.

              Downfield: Possesses the foot quickness to get in front of screens and reach linebackers, and is difficult to get around with his wide body and length if in balance. Struggles to hit targets in the open field, however, and lacks agility to adjust to quicker linebackers in space. Uses length to knock a defender off his route to the ball but does not sustain for long enough.

              Intangibles: Older than the typical prospect (26 in November 2011). Played in secondary school in Canada, Canadian college and junior college before attending Baylor. Plays with some attitude, gets on top of defenders on the ground, but needs to play through the whistle more consistently.

              Mike Brewster-
              Pass blocking: Possesses quickness and strength to protect the passer at the next level. Takes two or three steps back immediately after snap if uncovered. Good anchor despite relatively svelte build. Twisting ends run into a wall when greeting him, also has a strong punch to shock oncoming defenders. Will take defenders to the ground if off-balance. Usually extends his arms quickly after the snap to maintain distance but allows defenders to get into his chest at times. Feet stay planted after initial contact, giving up penetration against better tackles on occasion.

              Run blocking: Positional blocker with good feet to wall off outside shoulder of defensive tackle. Can move to either side of the defender while engaged. Gets low in short-yardage situations despite his height, gets good push. Still learning to get off initial down-block to reach linebackers on combo blocks.

              Pulling/trapping: Best in tight quarters, but shows some mobility behind the line when pulling. Most adept at attacking players straight-up, lacks great flexibility and elite quickness enough to adjust to inside targets and negate them.

              Initial Quickness: Rarely beaten off the snap in pass protection. Gets hands onto his man's jersey quickly after both traditional and shotgun snaps. Quicker one-on-one defenders can occasionally get a second step forward to bring interior pressure.

              Downfield: Athletic enough to take out mike linebacker off the snap if asked to do so. Possesses the tenacity and strength to eliminate any type of defender in way of his ballcarrier. Hesitates instead of attacking targets on combo blocks, though, and lacks elite quickness to adjust to targets in space.

              Intangibles: Graduated from high school early to enroll at Ohio State but did not partake in spring practices due to surgery on right shoulder. Decided to return to school despite the cloud hanging over the program to become a better center and a team leader. Played through ankle injury in 2009.
              The people that are trying to make the world worse never take a day off, why should I?

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              • Prowler
                Pro Bowler
                • Apr 2010
                • 1837

                #52
                Re: Cordy Glenn is the real deal!!

                I think Cordy Glenn will be a bust. Did anyone watch game film of him being abused by the DL of Boise? He might be able to be a road grader but in pass protection he will suffer at the next level. Besides this, we already have a LG on our team similar to Glenn, who lost his job earlier in the year because of his poor play. We don't need another guy who can't pass protect.

                Another player I would avoid like the plague that I keep hearing mentioned as a possible Steeler draft pick is Ta'amu from Washington. I would not choose any NT from a defense that gave up 69 points and 482 yards rushing in a bowl game against Baylor.. No way, besides this he is an out of shape, low endurance guy.

                I find Dontari Poe a much better candidate than the fat guy from Washington. From what I have read he's a workout warrior and has the best technique to play NT in the 3-4. Wish I had some film on the guy though.

                Soon I will post my mock draft so that I can be mocked to.








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                • Dee Dub
                  Hall of Famer
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 4652

                  #53
                  Re: Cordy Glenn is the real deal!!

                  Originally posted by Prowler
                  I think Cordy Glenn will be a bust. Did anyone watch game film of him being abused by the DL of Boise? He might be able to be a road grader but in pass protection he will suffer at the next level. Besides this, we already have a LG on our team similar to Glenn, who lost his job earlier in the year because of his poor play. We don't need another guy who can't pass protect.

                  A bust? Prowler you are better than this. You are going to base this on the first game he played at LT in over 2 years? In 2010 he was at LG all year. In 2009 he went back and forth from RG, LT, and LG. His freshman year he played entirely at LG. I can assure you, as the year went on Glenn got much better. He was dominate in the game versus LSU. That is a pretty good team who has some future NFL players on defense.

                  But dont take my word listen to what experts had to say of him at the Senior Bowl week.

                  Mike Shanahan wasn’t kidding last night when he promised that we would see more one-on-one match-ups between DE Quentin Coples and G/T Cordy Glenn, the two best players on the South team. True to his word, the two ended up facing each other on the first four snaps of the 11-on-11 session, while they also went head-to-head on a number of occasions in the one-on-one pass blocking drills. And while each had their moments, the overall decision goes to Glenn who was probably the best player on the field today. Glenn, who lined up primarily at OG the first couple of days at practice, played almost exclusively at LT today and stoned just about every DE he faced including Mel Ingram and Courtney Upshaw on more than one snap. And Glenn put the coup de grace on his performance late in the 11-on-11 session when the offense ran a sweep around his side. Glenn pulled around the TE, raced down field - guys that big are only supposed to lumber in space - and delivered a crunching block on a poor overmatched safety.


                  [url="http://www.gbnreport.com/seniorbowlreport.htm"]http://www.gbnreport.com/seniorbowlreport.htm[/url]

                  Heath Evans the former NFL FB, along with Charles Davis and Mike Mayock who were at the Senior Bowl practice said on the NFL Network that Cordy Glenn has owned, Quinton Coples, Courtney Upshaw, and Melvin Ingram.

                  Coples, Upshaw, and Ingram are all top 10 or top 15 picks in this draft. The best pass rushers this draft has to offer. And Glenn not only handled them but scouts and ex-NFL people said he was dominate against them.

                  In Glenn's first full year at LT, playing in the SEC, I think he was dominate. And I saw every one of his games.

                  Give Glenn more time at LT and you'll have as close to Orlando Pace as you can get.
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                  1-Bernardrick McKinney MLB Mississippi State 6 ft 5 250 4.5 40 yard dash

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                  • JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
                    Hall of Famer
                    • May 2008
                    • 3937

                    #54
                    Re: Cordy Glenn is the real deal!!

                    After watching him in the Senior Bowl...I got more comfortable in one aspect but more concerned in another. He looked better than I expected at LT...Which wasn't dominant but still looked like a 1st rounder. What concerned me is his play at LG. Ta'amu is the NFL material he will face on Sundays and he struggled against him. Glenn couldn't reach him going away...He couldn't turn him out of the hole...And he played with no leverage. Glenn allowed himself to get pushed back at times. He did look pretty good on the 2nd level sealing off LBs. I wish I could have seen alot more of him pulling and trapping at G. That all being said...I believe he could get better if G is his position. Glenn seems like he needs to get stronger up top so he doesn't get bent backwards and let the DTs gain leverage. He needs to lower his pad level when inside. I definately agree with the experts he could play RT and I am more optimistic with some work he could be a LT. I'm just not so sure he would be a plug & play at G at the next level out of the box. Maybe at LG but I don't think at RG until he gets stronger and works on his technique.

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                    • JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
                      Hall of Famer
                      • May 2008
                      • 3937

                      #55
                      Re: Cordy Glenn is the real deal!!

                      Originally posted by Prowler
                      I think Cordy Glenn will be a bust. Did anyone watch game film of him being abused by the DL of Boise? He might be able to be a road grader but in pass protection he will suffer at the next level. Besides this, we already have a LG on our team similar to Glenn, who lost his job earlier in the year because of his poor play. We don't need another guy who can't pass protect.

                      Another player I would avoid like the plague that I keep hearing mentioned as a possible Steeler draft pick is Ta'amu from Washington. I would not choose any NT from a defense that gave up 69 points and 482 yards rushing in a bowl game against Baylor.. No way, besides this he is an out of shape, low endurance guy.

                      I find Dontari Poe a much better candidate than the fat guy from Washington. From what I have read he's a workout warrior and has the best technique to play NT in the 3-4. Wish I had some film on the guy though.

                      Soon I will post my mock draft so that I can be mocked to.
                      I don't think Glenn will be a bust. I think his ceiling is unknown but his floor is set. He is a good football player that has the frame they look for and enough athleticism to work with. He just isn't a finished product yet because he moved all over.

                      Ta'amu got my attention too. If it isn't Poe @ #24 I would be very pleased with him in the 2nd.

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                      • Dee Dub
                        Hall of Famer
                        • Jan 2010
                        • 4652

                        #56
                        Re: Cordy Glenn is the real deal!!

                        Originally posted by JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
                        After watching him in the Senior Bowl...I got more comfortable in one aspect but more concerned in another. He looked better than I expected at LT...Which wasn't dominant but still looked like a 1st rounder. What concerned me is his play at LG. Ta'amu is the NFL material he will face on Sundays and he struggled against him. Glenn couldn't reach him going away...He couldn't turn him out of the hole...And he played with no leverage. Glenn allowed himself to get pushed back at times. He did look pretty good on the 2nd level sealing off LBs. I wish I could have seen alot more of him pulling and trapping at G. That all being said...I believe he could get better if G is his position. Glenn seems like he needs to get stronger up top so he doesn't get bent backwards and let the DTs gain leverage. He needs to lower his pad level when inside. I definately agree with the experts he could play RT and I am more optimistic with some work he could be a LT. I'm just not so sure he would be a plug & play at G at the next level out of the box. Maybe at LG but I don't think at RG until he gets stronger and works on his technique.
                        Good stuff JPN. I agree with most of this. I think for what you point out makes Glenn better suited as a LT. He needs to play in space and use his strength...his quick feet, quick set up, and his long arms. Playing inside makes him have to rely more on his physical strength and his push.
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                        1-Bernardrick McKinney MLB Mississippi State 6 ft 5 250 4.5 40 yard dash

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                        • JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
                          Hall of Famer
                          • May 2008
                          • 3937

                          #57
                          Re: Cordy Glenn is the real deal!!

                          Originally posted by Dee Dub
                          Good stuff JPN. I agree with most of this. I think for what you point out makes Glenn better suited as a LT. He needs to play in space and use his strength...his quick feet, quick set up, and his long arms. Playing inside makes him have to rely more on his physical strength and his push.
                          You could really see he knows how to use those long arms and he has a good punch. That is the reason I think he struggled a little inside against Ta'amu. Ta'amu played extrememly well and is stout in the lower body. Glenn's long arms work against him inside because he needs to add some strength but that will happen. It's hard to lock out with a big boy on you with that wingspan. In pass pro he did good inside and you could see those long arms were problems for LBs on the second level run blocking because he locked on them and shielded them from the hole...The LBs had trouble shedding him. A little work on that kick slide....Some work in the weight room...He isn't that far off from LT. Some playing time and coaching his technique will come easy. Just watch that weight...Looked pretty good now.

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                          • hawaiiansteel
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 35649

                            #58
                            Re: Cordy Glenn is the real deal!!



                            24. Pittsburgh Steelers

                            Cordy Glenn, OG, Georgia: The Steelers seemingly patch up their offensive line annually, only to struggle with injuries and consistency up front. Glenn lacks the consistency to earn a first round grade from all clubs, but the 6-5, 350-pounder has the size the Steelers prefer upfront and, as a rare four-year starter with experience at left tackle, left guard and right guard he has the durability and versatility the team prioritizes on draft day. Roethlisberger was sacked five times against the Broncos.

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