Cordy Glenn is the real deal!!

[steeler_george]

Re: Cordy Glenn is the real deal!!

Ranking the Senior Bowl’s Top 10 prospects

by Wes Bunting

After three days of practice in Mobile Alabama, the NFP ranks the Senior Bowl’s top prospects for the upcoming NFL draft and breaks down which NFL teams are good fits for each.


1. DE Quinton Coples: North Carolina (6-6, 285)
Possesses the ideal build for a defensive lineman and the game really comes easy to him. He showcases the ability to overpower on contact, be sudden laterally and uses his length well to shed. If he can keep his motor running on high, looks like a top-five caliber talent.

NFL Fits…
Bears
Seahawks
Jaguars

2. OT Mike Adams: Ohio State (6-7, 320)
Looks the part of an NFL left tackle. He showcases good length, moves his feet well through contact and exhibits “plus’ range toward the edge for his size. At times gets himself into trouble “catching” defenders at the point, but has the skill set to mature into a good starting NFL left tackle.

NFL Fits…
Chiefs
Bills
Lions

3. DE Courtney Upshaw: Alabama (6-2, 265)
A physical, compact pass rusher who turns speed into power well off the edge and can overwhelm on contact. Plus, has the versatility to play in both a 34 and 43 front at the next level.

NFL Fits…
Bears
Cowboys
Chiefs

4. CB Janoris Jenkins: North Alabama (5-10, 182)
He was simply the most impressive cover man down here this week. Jenkins displays natural fluidity when asked to turn and run, stays low out of his breaks and is a bear to separate from on all levels of the field. Looks like an NFL starter early on in the NFL.

NFL Fits…
Lions
Bengals
Patriots

5. OG Cordy Glenn: Georgia (6-5, 34
Glenn had some struggles this week at OT. However, when lined-up inside at guard he was downright dominant. He showcased good natural quickness off the ball, was able to extend his arms and control blockers with ease through contact. Looks like a first round caliber guard prospect to me.

NFL Fits…
Steelers
Cowboys
Cardinals

6. DE Melvin Ingram: South Carolina (6-2, 276)
He’s an impressive pass rusher who can get after the QB in a number of ways. Plus, he’s versatile, as he can be effective from a number of spots and will likely get looks from both 34 and 43 teams.

NFL Fits…
Eagles
Chargers
Packers

7. CB Brandon Boykin: Georgia (5-10, 183)
Despite his lack of ideal height, he’s physical off the line, can turn and run, and did a better job as the week went on staying lower when trying to re-direct. He’s a competitor who loves to get into the face of opposing receivers and was a tough guy to separate from all week.

NFL Fits…
Ravens
Browns
Broncos

8. DT Brandon Thompson: Clemson (6-2, 310)
He demonstrated the first step to consistently gain leverage at the point working the bull rush, kept his pad level down and displayed the ability to shed through contact. He’s got a slight wiggle laterally as well, but is more of a one-gap guy only who can create penetration inside as either a 43 or 34 guy.

NFL Fits…
Packers
Broncos
Panthers

9. RB Doug Martin: Boise State (5-9, 215)
Martin isn't a dynamic size/speed guy, but there aren't many negatives to his game. He plays fast, runs low, is natural through the line of scrimmage and has a skill set somewhat similar to former Alabama RB Mark Ingram. He might fall a bit because he doesn't run overly well, but he has the skill set to start in the league.

NFL Fits…
Bengals
Jets
Buccaneers

10. QB Brandon Weeden: Oklahoma State (6-4, 21
His age will likely keep him from going as early in the draft as his talents deserve. But, there isn't a throw this guy can't make and he has the skill set and mental make-up to mature into a starter early in his NFL career. Looks like a solid second round type value to me.

NFL Fits…
Redskins
Dolphins
Browns

[url="http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Ranking-the-Senior-Bowls-Top-10-prospects.html&page=2"]http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Ran ... tml&page=2[/url]

I really like the idea of drafting Glenn; however, he is a senior and for the most part Steelers select underclassmen in the first round. Now who is that underclassman who plays on the OFFENSIVE side of the ball. (last year we selected D, usually alternate)

[RuthlessBurgher]

Re: Cordy Glenn is the real deal!!

I really like the idea of drafting Glenn; however, he is a senior and for the most part Steelers select underclassmen in the first round. Now who is that underclassman who plays on the OFFENSIVE side of the ball. (last year we selected D, usually alternate)

Gotta trade up to get the best player in the draft at the position of our biggest need, though, like we did for Polamalu and Holmes.

[JUST-PLAIN-NASTY]

Re: Cordy Glenn is the real deal!!

What more does one need to see? He dominated at LT in the SEC and at the Senior Bowl he has dominating the best pass rushers. Coples, Upshaw, and Ingram...those are the elite pass rushers who will be very high picks.

Keep in mind Mayock hasnt really sat down and seen much game film on most of these guys. That is per his own admission. I think he is just covering his behind. Mayock took on two new jobs this past football season...Notre Dame games and NFL Network games. He hasnt seen much college tape.

There are trains and then there is the late freights. I suggest ya'all get on this one before ya get passed by.

I know you like the guy Dub and to give you credit...If my memory serves me correctly....You were the first guy out of the box all over this guy even before the season was over. I don't have to be sold on him as an OL.

Glenn wasn't always dominant on film. He was dominant in games but when the competition got better he played pretty good. Glenn is loosing his battles like everyone else at the Senior Bowl. I have watched some practices and read the print too. There is good and not so good on him but that doesn't mean he can't play....He has shown at the Senio Bowl he is much better on the inside to date. He can be dominant at times and it seems to happen on the inside. However, he did very good at RT in 11 on 11. Don't take 1 on 1 drills as game speed either. There is still aspects of the game that can't be simulated in 1 on 1 but it is a very good tool to evaluate. Mayock has been one of the top guys in this process. I don't think trying to tarnish his credibility because he doesn't agree with you really works. This is also just the start and people's opinions could change through the process.

Glenn isn't a finished product yet either. He needs to dedicate himself to the weight room and shedding-converting some weight would really benefit him. He has the frame & football smarts to really turn into something special no matter where he plays at the next level. I think what will help or hurt him the most after the Seniol Bowl is his combine/workout 10 yard split, cone times, position drills, and his 225 reps. They will be able to guage his agility against everyone else and see where his strength is. They will take a good hard look at his position drills especially the kick slide drill. If his 10 yard split is in the high 1.9's, his 3 cone is in the 7.9 & shuttle above 5, & can't at least be 25 or better in the bench...His stock could take a hit. His tape will keep him in the 1st round.

After all that info is gathered...They may see him as an OG/RT who could grow into a LT with some dedication to conditioning & the weight room at the next level...Instead of a college LT who can play G & RT at the next level. Really, that is where it is at. Right now in this process...There are better LTs in this draft than him and there are better OGs than him. It isn't a knock on him at all. I think you evaluation of him @ #24 is accurate and he may even go higher. Just like my #1 in Poe...They may both be on the board at #24 and the Steelers walk someone elses name up to the podium.

[JUST-PLAIN-NASTY]

Re: Cordy Glenn is the real deal!!

I really like the idea of drafting Glenn; however, he is a senior and for the most part Steelers select underclassmen in the first round. Now who is that underclassman who plays on the OFFENSIVE side of the ball. (last year we selected D, usually alternate)

Gotta trade up to get the best player in the draft at the position of our biggest need, though, like we did for Polamalu and Holmes.

I would "Tebow" if the Steelers landed DeCastro.

[RuthlessBurgher]

Re: Cordy Glenn is the real deal!!

I would "Tebow" is the Steelers landed DeCastro.

So would Ben.

[Shawn]

Re: Cordy Glenn is the real deal!!

[quote=focosteeler]

I will have to wait and see after the Senior Bowl to be fair to him. Mayock said he is a G and RT but the jury is still out at LT. I think he has some growing to do in the weight room. I like his arm length & he has decent feet with some weight to convert. You get an OL with arms over 35" and you coach him up on hand placement & quick punch you can negate some of the lazy feet in the kick slide. Just see Max Starks. I would say if he isn't a LT year 1 he definately could grow into that position. That being said...I would only trade up for Decastro because he is polished elite G. Glenn has a higher ceiling "IF" he can play LT at the next level. If Glenn has to stay at G, DeCastro will be the better of the two. If Glenn turns out he can play LT at a high level, obviously his value is greater but that won't be determined until he hits the field on Sundays. The "IF" is the reason I would take him if he is their at #24 but not trade up for him.

What more does one need to see? He dominated at LT in the SEC and at the Senior Bowl he has dominating the best pass rushers. Coples, Upshaw, and Ingram...those are the elite pass rushers who will be very high picks.

Keep in mind Mayock hasnt really sat down and seen much game film on most of these guys. That is per his own admission. I think he is just covering his behind. Mayock took on two new jobs this past football season...Notre Dame games and NFL Network games. He hasnt seen much college tape.

There are trains and then there is the late freights. I suggest ya'all get on this one before ya get passed by.

I'm not sure it matters how good Glenn is. With Hoke retiring, Hampton's surgery, and our cap situation probably keeping us out of play in free agency. Can we really not take a NT in round 1?

I think OL is a huge need. We all know we need to upgrade OL, but I think now the most immediate need is NT.

i dont really know if there is a NT worthy of our 1st pick right now.[/quote:i4c0562g]

You'll just have to trust me on this one. Jerel Worthy will be a special DLman in the NFL. You don't have to be 350# to play NT.

[Dee Dub]

Re: Cordy Glenn is the real deal!!

I love DeCastro as well however if I can get a bonafide blue chip LT I go there first.

Glenn--Legursky--Pouncey--Foster--Gilbert

That doesnt look to bad to me.

[RuthlessBurgher]

Re: Cordy Glenn is the real deal!!

I love DeCastro as well however if I can get a bonafide blue chip LT I go there first.

Glenn--Legursky--Pouncey--Foster--Gilbert

That doesnt look to bad to me.

Except that the guards still suck out loud.

[Oviedo]

Re: Cordy Glenn is the real deal!!

Glenn is great which is why any talk of getting him at 1.24 or trading up to get him is pointless. Move on to the next candidate.

I'm looking NT in Round 1 and OG in Round 2.

[anger 82&95]

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Don Banks has the Steelers taking Glenn...
Pittsburgh Steelers
Cordy Glenn, OG-OT, Georgia. The Steelers are being given Memphis DT Dontari Poe in plenty of mocks, and he makes sense as a replacement for veteran Casey Hampton, who is coming off ACL surgery. But have you seen the state of the Steelers' offensive line the past two seasons? Until convinced otherwise, we consider Pittsburgh's OL issues to be its top priority

[url="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/don_banks/01/26/mock-draft/index.html?xid=cnnbin"]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/w ... xid=cnnbin[/url]

[Dee Dub]

Re: Cordy Glenn is the real deal!!

Don Banks has the Steelers taking Glenn...
Pittsburgh Steelers
Cordy Glenn, OG-OT, Georgia. The Steelers are being given Memphis DT Dontari Poe in plenty of mocks, and he makes sense as a replacement for veteran Casey Hampton, who is coming off ACL surgery. But have you seen the state of the Steelers' offensive line the past two seasons? Until convinced otherwise, we consider Pittsburgh's OL issues to be its top priority

[url="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/don_banks/01/26/mock-draft/index.html?xid=cnnbin"]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/w ... xid=cnnbin[/url]

Sorry anger I didnt see your post. I created a thread about this...actually his whole mock draft. sorry.

[hawaiiansteel]

Re: Cordy Glenn is the real deal!!

I love DeCastro as well however if I can get a bonafide blue chip LT I go there first.

Glenn--Legursky--Pouncey--Foster--Gilbert

That doesnt look to bad to me.

Gilbert - Glenn - Pouncey - Legursky/Foster - Colon looks better to me

[anger 82&95]

Re: Cordy Glenn is the real deal!!

[quote=Dee Dub]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/w ... xid=cnnbin[/url]

Sorry anger I didnt see your post. I created a thread about this...actually his whole mock draft. sorry.[/quote:2vl7ydcp]
No worries… Your post actually makes it easier to see the potential pick in context.

[hawaiiansteel]

Re: Cordy Glenn is the real deal!!

You'll just have to trust me on this one. Jerel Worthy will be a special DLman in the NFL. You don't have to be 350# to play NT.

here is WalterFootball's scouting report on Jerel Worthy, they seem to think he would make a better 4-3 DT or a 3-4 DE than NT:


2012 NFL Draft Scouting Report: Jerel Worthy

By Charlie Campbell



Jerel Worthy, 6-3/310

Defensive Tackle

Michigan State


Strengths:

Quick get-off
Speed to shoot the gap
Ability to collapse the pocket
Quality pad level
Bulk to hold ground against drive blockers
Strength to shed blocks
Can take over games and dominate for stretches
Durable, experienced 3-year starter
Passionate player who was devoted to his team

Weaknesses:

Lacks elite characteristics
Not consistent
Disappears at times
Needs to refine pass-rushing moves for NFL guards
Conditioning needs to improve
Bigger reputation than actual production

Summary: Worthy has been one of the better defensive tackles in the Big Ten over the past couple of seasons. In 2010, he notched 40 tackles with eight tackles for a loss and four sacks. Heading into the 2011 season, Worthy was in the running to be the top defensive tackle in the nation. However, he had an inconsistent season, and other defensive tackles passed him, like Penn State's Devon Still. Worthy had 3.5 sacks with 30 tackles, 10.5 tackles for a loss and two blocked kicks in 2011.

There were stretches in games where Worthy was utterly dominant. When he took on Wisconsin in two games, he would be blocked well for a portion of the game, before wrecking havoc in the backfield for a quarter. Worthy had underwhelming performances against Nebraska, Iowa and Notre Dame. He had a superb showing against Ohio State, and ended his career well against Georgia. Versus the Bulldogs, Worthy got the better of the matchup against Georgia center Ben Jones, a second-day prospect.

Worthy looks like he would be best as a one-gap penetrator in a 4-3 defense. He could play the three-technique in a Tampa-2 defense that requires a quick tackle to fire through the gap. Worthy is at his best when he is trying to get into the backfield to make plays. At the same time, Worthy is a quality run defender at the line of scrimmage. He holds his ground and doesn't get pushed around.

While Worthy probably is a better fit in a 4-3 defense, he could play the five-technique as an end in a 3-4. His ability to hold his ground could set the edge and free up outside linebackers. However, that may not be the best use of his talents.

Player Comparison: Rocky Bernard. Worthy will definitely be drafted ahead of where Bernard went. In the 2002 NFL Draft, Bernard was a fifth-round pick of the Seahawks. That turned out to be an excellent selection, as Bernard has gone to have a successful career with Seattle and the Giants. Even though Worthy will go higher, he has a similar skill set to Bernard and could have a comparable career. Bernard has averaged three sacks per season with an abnormal 8.5 sacks in 2005.

NFL Matches: Denver, New York Giants, Minnesota, St. Louis, Seattle, New Orleans, Carolina

Worthy could fit just about any 4-3 defense that is in need of a defensive tackle. Denver could use a tackle who can push the pocket and take out quarterbacks who try to step up to avoid an edge rush. Minnesota and St. Louis could both use some youth on the interior of their lines. Seattle needs to upgrade their interior pass rush. The Giants are always looking to add to their defensive front, and Worthy could be Bernard's replacement.

The Saints have veterans on the inside of their line, but could use some long-term answers. While Carolina used picks on tackles last year, they both were injured so the Panthers need more at the position for an effective rotation and depth. Worthy could be a quality second-round pick for any of those seven teams.

[url="http://www.walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2012jworthy.php"]http://www.walterfootball.com/scoutingr ... worthy.php[/url]

[Dee Dub]

Re: Cordy Glenn is the real deal!!

I love DeCastro as well however if I can get a bonafide blue chip LT I go there first.

Glenn--Legursky--Pouncey--Foster--Gilbert

That doesnt look to bad to me.

Gilbert - Glenn - Pouncey - Legursky/Foster - Colon looks better to me

Interesting…you would want the team’s best LT to play LG, the team’s best RT to play LT, the team’s best pulling guard to play away from that at RG, and a guy who hasn’t played much of anything at all the past two years to come back and play RT?

That doesn't sound too goo d to me.

I have news for you guys...the Steelers are very pleased with Legursky at LG because he can get out in front and pull. He did a pretty solid job there this year. But I guess many fans didn't notice that?