Be honest can this offense take us deep into the playoffs?

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  • Mister Pittsburgh
    Hall of Famer
    • Jul 2008
    • 3674

    #91
    Re: Be honest can this offense take us deep into the playoff

    Originally posted by Oviedo
    Originally posted by JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
    I don't think the offense is the concern even with Mendy gone. I think it all hinges on the defense. I'm feeling a little better about the run D as long as the age up the middle doesn't show its ugly face. I think the watching of the snap counts with Farrior & Hampton has been noticable down the stretch. I just hope there is enough fuel in the tank for 4 more games. I think the return to the SB lies with how quickly we get Woodley back and how quickly Lewis & Allen return. The relationship between the two will be exploited against the Pats - Packers Or Saints. The path to #7 goes through 2 of those teams. If we can get Lewis and/or Allen back after the Broncos Things will start to look better.

    I think there is a huge concern with the offense with Mendy gone. He was the only legit threat to go long of all our RBs. Redman's style plays right into the Broncos strngth of stopping up the middle runs. They have gotten destroyed by RBs who can take the edge and have speed.

    Combine the Mendy loss with the depleted secondary and this game will be much closer than it ever should be.
    Its nice to think that Mendenhall might break off a 50 yard run to the house. He just never does it. Maybe what, once a season? I'll take the back that gets me 4 or 5 every carry vs. the one that gets 2 or 3 on 95% of his carries.

    And realistically, to win the Superbowl, we won't need to be leaning on the running game. We better be ready to put up 30+ which is a major stretch for this Ben/Arianus run passing attack.
    @_Hellgrammite

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    • williar
      Pro Bowler
      • Dec 2008
      • 1170

      #92
      Re: Be honest can this offense take us deep into the playoff

      Originally posted by Oviedo
      Originally posted by JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
      I don't think the offense is the concern even with Mendy gone. I think it all hinges on the defense. I'm feeling a little better about the run D as long as the age up the middle doesn't show its ugly face. I think the watching of the snap counts with Farrior & Hampton has been noticable down the stretch. I just hope there is enough fuel in the tank for 4 more games. I think the return to the SB lies with how quickly we get Woodley back and how quickly Lewis & Allen return. The relationship between the two will be exploited against the Pats - Packers Or Saints. The path to #7 goes through 2 of those teams. If we can get Lewis and/or Allen back after the Broncos Things will start to look better.

      I think there is a huge concern with the offense with Mendy gone. He was the only legit threat to go long of all our RBs. Redman's style plays right into the Broncos strngth of stopping up the middle runs. They have gotten destroyed by RBs who can take the edge and have speed.

      Combine the Mendy loss with the depleted secondary and this game will be much closer than it ever should be.
      I think the game will be close for the same reasons all of our games have been close, even with Mendy. We just don't score enough points... We barely beat KC with Tyler Palko and Cleveland with Colt McCoy / Seneca Wallace. I think the scores were the same in all three games...

      I like Mendy and what he brought to the table, but he ain't no Ray Rice or Arian Foster. He may have the skills to take it to the house, but he hasn't done too much of that this season.. Call me whatever, but that touchdown run by John Clay was probably the best run I have seen from one of our RB's. Mendy reminds me too much of Willie Parker. You know he can break one at anytime but he hardly seems to ever do it....

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      • feltdizz
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 27531

        #93
        Re: Be honest can this offense take us deep into the playoff

        [quote=Mister Pittsburgh]
        Originally posted by Oviedo
        Originally posted by "JUST-PLAIN-NASTY":24ogcgzx
        I don't think the offense is the concern even with Mendy gone. I think it all hinges on the defense. I'm feeling a little better about the run D as long as the age up the middle doesn't show its ugly face. I think the watching of the snap counts with Farrior & Hampton has been noticable down the stretch. I just hope there is enough fuel in the tank for 4 more games. I think the return to the SB lies with how quickly we get Woodley back and how quickly Lewis & Allen return. The relationship between the two will be exploited against the Pats - Packers Or Saints. The path to #7 goes through 2 of those teams. If we can get Lewis and/or Allen back after the Broncos Things will start to look better.

        I think there is a huge concern with the offense with Mendy gone. He was the only legit threat to go long of all our RBs. Redman's style plays right into the Broncos strngth of stopping up the middle runs. They have gotten destroyed by RBs who can take the edge and have speed.

        Combine the Mendy loss with the depleted secondary and this game will be much closer than it ever should be.
        Its nice to think that Mendenhall might break off a 50 yard run to the house. He just never does it. Maybe what, once a season? I'll take the back that gets me 4 or 5 every carry vs. the one that gets 2 or 3 on 95% of his carries.

        And realistically, to win the Superbowl, we won't need to be leaning on the running game. We better be ready to put up 30+ which is a major stretch for this Ben/Arianus run passing attack.[/quote:24ogcgzx]



        I get tired of hearing about the Mendy "breakaway" threat that we've seen maybe 1 or 2 times and he was walked down on that 50 yarder.

        The only concern with Redman is ball protection because of last week... other then that serious issue, and it is a cause for concern, Redman is an upgrade due to his consistency.

        I liked Mend but he pizzed me off this year. He ran like a wild animal in the playoffs last year and then hop and skips his way through 2011?

        Redman runs like a guy trying to make some money... Mend was running like he is getting 10% returns of sound investments.
        Steelers 27
        Rats 16

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        • williar
          Pro Bowler
          • Dec 2008
          • 1170

          #94
          Re: Be honest can this offense take us deep into the playoff

          I also get tired of, every time we lose a player (in this case Mendenhall) due to injury or whatever the case maybe, we have to feel all of this doom and gloom. Like our team is going to be impacted so much by the loss. Other good teams lose good players all the time due to injury and you hardly ever hear about it and their teams don't miss too many beats. NE has loss a plethora of good players this year. I don't hear no one complaining. They just keep on winning. GB lost their best WR, Greg Jennings, their best O Lineman, Chad Clifton, their best DB Nick Collins, and so on and so forth. You'd never know it! We lose Mendy or Ryan Clark and it's like Mr. Bill revisited.......

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          • pittpete
            Legend
            • Aug 2008
            • 6825

            #95
            Re: Be honest can this offense take us deep into the playoff

            No doom and gloom here, I think Redman is just what the doctor ordered for us..
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            • JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
              Hall of Famer
              • May 2008
              • 3937

              #96
              Re: Be honest can this offense take us deep into the playoff

              Originally posted by Oviedo
              Originally posted by JUST-PLAIN-NASTY
              I don't think the offense is the concern even with Mendy gone. I think it all hinges on the defense. I'm feeling a little better about the run D as long as the age up the middle doesn't show its ugly face. I think the watching of the snap counts with Farrior & Hampton has been noticable down the stretch. I just hope there is enough fuel in the tank for 4 more games. I think the return to the SB lies with how quickly we get Woodley back and how quickly Lewis & Allen return. The relationship between the two will be exploited against the Pats - Packers Or Saints. The path to #7 goes through 2 of those teams. If we can get Lewis and/or Allen back after the Broncos Things will start to look better.

              I think there is a huge concern with the offense with Mendy gone. He was the only legit threat to go long of all our RBs. Redman's style plays right into the Broncos strngth of stopping up the middle runs. They have gotten destroyed by RBs who can take the edge and have speed.

              Combine the Mendy loss with the depleted secondary and this game will be much closer than it ever should be.
              Mendy when healthy was never one to break a big one around the corner. The long runs usually were between the tackles. Their best play Counter 34 Pike has accounted for many big plays over the years. The only one really famous for bouncing the corner was Fast Willie in his prime. Mendy is the most athletic of all of them but being being the best athlete doesn't equal best option. Redman, Clay, and Moore are all "one cut-stick your foot in the ground & hit the hole" downhill runners which do very well. It would have been nice having Mendy but the running game can still get going with the guys they have. Lewis & Allen injuries will be more felt if they can't get back quickly.

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              • fezziwig
                Hall of Famer
                • Jan 2009
                • 3515

                #97
                Re: Be honest can this offense take us deep into the playoff

                You do need to or I do kind of smile that, even with all the turnovers we are 12-4. That has to be some kind of stat for doing so well but at the same time, shooting yourself in the foot at the same time.
                All this tells me, we are a really good team but, we just aren't clicking with the ball control and redzone positives. I'm sure they go hand in hand.
                Someone said it well with saying Brees and Rodgers are playing lights out and while Ben, hasn't hit his stride yet.
                If Ben does hit his stride or shake off the funk, we will be a hard team to beat.

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                • pittpete
                  Legend
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 6825

                  #98
                  Re: Be honest can this offense take us deep into the playoff

                  Redman, Clay, and Moore are all "one cut-stick your foot in the ground & hit the hole" downhill runners which do very well
                  Honestly I remember Clay doing a little stuttering behind the line against the Browns.
                  I said "cmon Clay don't be like friggin Mendenhall"
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