Ben's Fault

[flippy]

Time to put up some points on O. The D held Houston to 17 when they typically score 30.

This offense is putrid.

And it all begins and ends with Ben.

You can say it's the play calls or the OLine. But it all starts and ends with the QB. And Ben is not getting it done.

[Scarletfire1970]

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Are you kidding me?

[Djfan]

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Yeah, Ben's blocking sucks.

[msp26505]

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Perhaps there needs to be a showdown.

Someone needs to tell Ben: "You will not play sandlot ball".

Ben needs to reply: "But it's what makes me great".

Someone then needs to then say, "OK, you win."

Then someone else needs to come in and fire someone and hire another someone who can call good plays, establish an offensive rhythm and make their star QB realize that he can win 3 more Super Bowls and extend his career by about 5 years if he listens to someone who is not full of crap.

[SteelBucks]

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I'll put this on every thread. Bad line = bad offense. Don't over analyze this, it's really that simple.

[flippy]

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Ben hit's a wide open Brown and this was a tie game.

Ben's a turnover machine.

He has to know he's gonna get hit and get rid of the ball on occassion.

He needs to dump the ball off and not always wait for plays to develop downfield.

This has turned into an offensive league and Ben is not carrying this team like he needs to.

He's been too reliant on the D his whole career.

We've been waiting long enough for him to elevate this offense.

The offense is to blame.

Ben is the offense.

And I'm sure he takes the blame. I like Ben. He's a high character guy imho. But he deserves the blame. He can be better.

[Chavezz]

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Don't normally disagree with ya Flip, although Ben makes his mistakes, you have to give him some protection.

This is the worst oline that I can remember. They not only lack talent, they are dumb as well. Not a good combination.

[Starlifter]

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yep, gotta disagree flippy. ben is the only thing keeping us in the game. remember the SB 43 when he's on the stand hollaring 'who's laughing now o-line?" they were a problem then and it's a problem that STILL hasn't been addressed outside of pouncey. seriously, time to invest in some horses and get a little consistency. I can't imagine how good ben would be if 95% of the time he had a pocket and time to shred a defense.

[msp26505]

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BTW, the D gave up 1,563 yards rushing today. I don't think they are blameless, but Flippy was right about the D. The Texans will probably score more points in every other game they play this season.

[Djfan]

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Then someone else needs to come in and fire someone and hire another someone who can call good plays, establish an offensive rhythm and make their star QB realize that he can win 3 more Super Bowls and extend his career by about 5 years if he listens to someone who is not full of crap.

This.

[hawaiiansteel]

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Yeah, Ben's blocking sucks.

[Steelhere10]

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30% Ben
30 % Oline
40 % Bruce A

[flippy]

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if ben makes quicker decisions or doesn't leave the pocket so quick, the Oline would look better. the one time that really stands out was the time gilbert push williams past the pocket, but williams got to ben because ben left the pocket too early.

if ben had only trusted gilbert on that play....

[Scarletfire1970]

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if ben makes quicker decisions or doesn't leave the pocket so quick, the Oline would look better. the one time that really stands out was the time gilbert push williams past the pocket, but williams got to ben because ben left the pocket too early.

if ben had only trusted gilbert on that play....

I will have him work on getting the ball out in 1/2 a milli second Flip.

[Ghost]

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Remember at the end of Animal House when Delta is running wild in the town parade and Kevin Bacon is standing there saying, "Stay calm, everything is fine, nothing to see here"?

This is exactly how I view BA and Ben when it comes to the line. They just won't acknowledge there are serious issues. The play calling doesn't take advantage of quick throws at all. Ben doesn't have any sense of a time clock in his head and takes a lot of sacks he shouldn't (I get it, that's his game but you have to adjust).

You can only blame the line so much. At least they are trying, they are just not quality NFL lineman. But an All Pro QB and the O Coordinator should know better.