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Solo tackles. The ONLY type that count ( At least for me )...not the additional ones where Troy gets as assisted tackles where he just jumps on the pile 30 seconds after the play is over. Anyone who has ever watched Troy play will tell you he is among the WORST tacklers that has ever played the position. Sure, he might chase the guy down and tackle him. But thats after Troy WHIFFED on the original tackle. So try again MENSA!!
You should really consider changing your screen name from insanesteelersfan to retardedsteelersfan.
A couple of weeks after working out a deal to keep LaMarr Woodley in Pittsburgh for six more years with a $61.5 million deal, Pittsburgh has re-upped Lawrence Timmons for six years. The deal is reportedly worth $50 million.
By signing Timmons now, Pittsburgh’s biggest remaining item on the to-do list for upcoming free agents is safety Troy Polamalu, but with Timmons re-signed Pittsburgh can also franchise Polamalu if they need to.
In the early 1990s, the Steelers were seemingly incapable of keeping their best free agents. Rod Woodson, Chad Brown and Leon Searcy were among the players who left Pittsburgh near the peak of their career.
Nowadays? Pittsburgh may lose a backup or a player on the downside of his career, but it’s hard to remember the last significant player the Steelers lost to free agency without some other backstory. Plaxico Burress is probably the best example, but in that case, Burress’ makeup played a part in the decision.
The Steelers have managed to keep Hines Ward for his entire career. Heath Miller will be a Steeler for at least 10 years, as he’s signed through 2014. Ben Roethlisberger is under contract until 2015. On defense, Aaron Smith, Brett Keisel and Casey Hampton have all become Steelers for life (or at least for 10+ years). James Harrison, Woodley and Timmons are all locked up for years. Ike Taylor joined the 10+years with the Steelers club with his new deal.
All in all, Pittsburgh has managed to keep everyone they’ve really wanted to keep since reaching the Super Bowl during the 2005 season. That’s a pretty impressive feat.
Ahh....it's like watching a son grow up & succeed...all the pre-draft pimping I had to do for Timmons has finally paid off for him..
Now maybe I can get a slice of that action, huh Lawrence?
Looks like the core of a very good team is being kept together. Note, however, that they are not extending "Contract 3" types- only "Contract 2" (actually- that might be a complete lie depending on how many contracts Ike has signed..)
The people that are trying to make the world worse never take a day off, why should I?
This is a great move. That is a great deal for a LB on the cusp of making the Pro Bowl. It is especially a good deal for a player deemed to be "soft against the run" by internet experts.
I understand waiting on Troy to make sure he is healthy but there sure isn't anyone on this roster that could take his place.
There isn't anyone on the Steeler roster or any other roster that could take Troy's place. He'll have a unique place in NFL history when he hangs em up. I'd take Troy over Ronnie Lott considered by many to be the gold standard.
Pappy
Ronnie Lott would be a penalty machine in Goodell's NFL, at least when not suspended.
Seems like a fair deal for the Steelers and Timmons. If Timmons can finish off the QB when he has the opportunities, he will get more national recognition.
Here is my take on the difference between Lott and Troy.
Lott was flawless as a safety.
- He was a surer tackler
- A harder hitter
- Had corner (played one for a time) cover skills
Troy is more spectacular.
- Has greater range
- Has ridiculous "football" speed
- Can make plays no other safety makes
I think they differ more in tendancies than skill set.
Troy guesses alot. Troy also plays with speed that can be out of control.
These are the reasons he plays so fast, and makes plays that seem impossible.
However, Troy take himself out of plays with his guessing; biting on the run when a pass is called. The same uncontrolled speed that leads to him making impossible plays in the backfield, leads to him missing tackles when he shoots past someone.
Lott was kind of a flawless player for the position in a "Jack Ham" kind of way. He had plenty of spectacular splash play ability too, among the best. Not like Troy though who has no peer in that regard.
Highlight film was mentioned.
Troys highlights would blow Lotts highlights away IMHO.
However, if there was a reel of blown plays, Troys reel similarly would be larger and have far more mistakes than Lott.
I think the question of who is better is pretty subjective.
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In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:
TCFCLTC-
The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher
Here is my take on the difference between Lott and Troy.
Lott was flawless as a safety.
- He was a surer tackler
- A harder hitter
- Had corner (played one for a time) cover skills
Troy is more spectacular.
- Has greater range
- Has ridiculous "football" speed
- Can make plays no other safety makes
I think they differ more in tendancies than skill set.
Troy guesses alot. Troy also plays with speed that can be out of control.
These are the reasons he plays so fast, and makes plays that seem impossible.
However, Troy take himself out of plays with his guessing; biting on the run when a pass is called. The same uncontrolled speed that leads to him making impossible plays in the backfield, leads to him missing tackles when he shoots past someone.
Lott was kind of a flawless player for the position in a "Jack Ham" kind of way. He had plenty of spectacular splash play ability too, among the best. Not like Troy though who has no peer in that regard.
Highlight film was mentioned.
Troys highlights would blow Lotts highlights away IMHO.
However, if there was a reel of blown plays, Troys reel similarly would be larger and have far more mistakes than Lott.
I think the question of who is better is pretty subjective.
Good summary. This is something I would tend to agree with across the board.
The only thing I'd add is Lott played in coverage versus Troy being used more in the box.
The big news of the day was not the earthquake that shook the Pittsburgh area and the Steelers' facility on the South Side, but the signing of linebacker Lawrence Timmons.
Timmons got a six-year extension worth $50 million from the Steelers, giving them three linebackers who are earning an average of nearly $10 million per year.
That's a lot of money tied up in the front seven and the defense in general.
But it also means the Steelers have now tied up their two youngest defensive starters – Timmons and LaMarr Woodley – to long-term deals.
That's significant considering they are the only two starters who are under 30.
The team still has yet to do anything with strong safety Troy Polamalu, but may wait on that. Polamalu could be given the franchise tag at the end of the season.
I detailed once the direct correlation between Troys play and Steelers winning, so I get your point Flippy.
But Lott's importance to an otherwise "good" but not close to great defense cannot be ignored.
LOTT WAS THE ONLY CONSTANT IN THE GREAT NINER TEAMS PERIOD.
Not Montana, not Rice, not Young.
LOTT ALONE.
NO OTHER GREAT NINER played a key role on ALL those great teams.
They won their 1st SB with Lott as a 1st team all-pro rookie. The dynasty of the 90s began.
They won their last with him a 1st team all pro 9 year vet
The following year 1990, was his last with the Niners. They had the best record in the league and were upset by two by the Giants who were held to 15. The offense only scored 13.
The year Lott left the Niners they missed the playoffs. The Niners dynasty was done.
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In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:
TCFCLTC-
The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher
PITTSBURGH -- Lawrence Timmons stayed healthy and finally had the breakthrough season everyone believed he could have since the Pittsburgh Steelers selected him with their No. 1 pick in 2007.
The Steelers rewarded Timmons with a six-year, $50 million contract today, and the fifth-year inside linebacker was thrilled about it.
"I couldn't be happier just to be locked up here for the next six years and being a big part of this organization,'' Timmons said before Tuesday's practice. "It all happened pretty fast, but Mike Tomlin said that he really wanted to keep me here. I was one of his first drafted players.
"So, I'm just happy to be signed here for another six years. ... It's very pivotal for our defense to be great to have all these great players here for a long time. That way, we can keep this process going and keep it going for a while. I didn't think about (a new contract) too much, because I did have this year.
Even though Timmons was in the final season of his rookie contract, the Steelers targeted he and safety Troy Polamalu for extensions after outside linebacker LaMarr Woodley re-signed a couple weeks ago. Timmons said that he trusted his head coach when he told the player that he wanted to keep him on the roster for a long time.
That's understandable, because Timmons -- who finished among the NFL's top tacklers with 135 total stops last season -- actually led the league in the early going. However, a hematoma developed on his side, and that appeared to hold him back a bit, even though he wouldn't use it as an excuse.
"I just think I didn't get as many plays in the second half as I did during my first eight games, but that's part of the game,'' Timmons said. "I think that if I can get double-digit sacks this year that would really help our defense.
"(That) would open things up for the other great players here. ... I missed out on quite a few (sacks) last year, so I just have to finish my plays. If I can do that, then I think I'll be a pretty good linebacker.''
By Scott Brown, PITTSBURGH TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Wednesday, August 24, 2011
The money the Steelers have invested in their linebackers means something to LaMarr Woodley, aside from him being financially set for life.
To Woodley, it is affirmation that the Steelers have the best linebackers in the NFL.
"You go back and look at our numbers — and you can't argue with the numbers — what we've been doing since we've been together," the outside linebacker said Tuesday.
He won't get any objections from the Steelers.
After locking up Woodley to a long-term deal three weeks ago, they did the same with Lawrence Timmons Tuesday morning, signing the inside linebacker to a six-year, $50 million contract.
The contract, which includes $18 million in bonuses, is the third largest for a defensive player in Steelers history. The six-year, $61.5 million deal that Woodley received Aug. 5 is the highest, following by the six-year, $51.175 million contract that outside linebacker James Harrison signed in April 2009.
Timmons, 25, and Woodley, 26, are the youngest starters on the Steelers' defense. The two cornerstones were taken in the first and second round of the 2007 draft, respectively — coach Mike Tomlin's first with the Steelers.
Timmons, who had been going into the final year of his original deal, said Tomlin assured him early in training camp that the Steelers would get a long-term contract done with the 6-foot-1, 234-pounder.
"Mike Tomlin said he really wanted to keep me here," Timmons said. "I'm just so excited I'm here for six years. I can't express the feeling, just how this organization this."
The Steelers are equally excited because Timmons has been on the rise since his second season in 2008 when he provided depth at both inside and outside linebacker.
Timmons, one of the Steelers' most versatile and athletic players, led the team in tackles (135) last season, his second one as a starter. He recorded three sacks and intercepted two passes.
Timmons' goal this season is to reach double figures in sacks.
"That would probably free LaMarr and James and some of the other guys up," Timmons said. "I missed quite a few of them (in 2010). I've just got to finish my plays. If I do, that I think I'll be a pretty good linebacker."
This is a great move. That is a great deal for a LB on the cusp of making the Pro Bowl. It is especially a good deal for a player deemed to be "soft against the run" by internet experts.
I understand waiting on Troy to make sure he is healthy but there sure isn't anyone on this roster that could take his place.
There isn't anyone on the Steeler roster or any other roster that could take Troy's place. He'll have a unique place in NFL history when he hangs em up. I'd take Troy over Ronnie Lott considered by many to be the gold standard.
Pappy
Flippy, you never seen Lott play, which means you have ZERO opinion. Comparing Troy to Lott in ANY way is silly. Lott was everybit as fast and Athletic as Troy was. Was as strong as ANY current D-Linemen playing today. And could EASILY just look at someone like Jack Lambert and make him Cry and run to his Momma!! Lott is easily the best DB period to play in the past 50 years. If any safety can compare to Troy it's Kenny Easley, former Seahawk Safety. Easley was a Ballhawk like Troy, and was also equally as dinged up as Troy is. They are both " Finess " players. Lott was a Physical Monster who could play finess, or super physical.
Comparing the talents of Troy P to Lott is like saying Kyle Boler..( Troy ) is equal to Terry Bradshaw...( Lott )
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