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  • Crash
    Legend
    • Apr 2009
    • 5008

    #31
    Re: 60 minutes of football

    It's been pointed out many times that THE STAFF was concerned with HOW we run the ball (ie MORE EFFECTIVELY/CONSISTENTLY) than HOW MUCH.
    So why the constant preaching of "balance" by them as far as run/pass ratio?

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    • eniparadoxgma
      Pro Bowler
      • May 2008
      • 2193

      #32
      Re: 60 minutes of football

      Originally posted by Crash
      It's been pointed out many times that THE STAFF was concerned with HOW we run the ball (ie MORE EFFECTIVELY/CONSISTENTLY) than HOW MUCH.
      So why the constant preaching of "balance" by them as far as run/pass ratio?
      In case you're unaware, you can both need to run more effectively/consistently and also need to have a better balance. However, for the trillionth time, what Rooney was talking about was running it more effectively/consistently. That was my point.
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      • fordfixer
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 10921

        #33
        Re: 60 minutes of football

        Originally posted by eniparadoxgma
        Originally posted by Crash
        It's been pointed out many times that THE STAFF was concerned with HOW we run the ball (ie MORE EFFECTIVELY/CONSISTENTLY) than HOW MUCH.
        So why the constant preaching of "balance" by them as far as run/pass ratio?
        In case you're unaware, you can both need to run more effectively/consistently and also need to have a better balance. However, for the trillionth time, what Rooney was talking about was running it more effectively/consistently. That was my point.

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        • papillon
          Legend
          • Mar 2008
          • 11340

          #34
          Re: 60 minutes of football

          Were the Steelers more effective running the ball this year? Yes
          Is their record better than last year? Yes
          Did Ben have a good year? Yes
          Did Ben have a good year last year? Yes
          Did the Steelers run the ball effectively last year? No
          Did the Steelers get in the playoffs last year? No
          Did the Steelers make the playoffs this year? Yes

          Ben was the same, the defense basically the same, the STs a bit better this year, but the running game was improved 2 fold. Running the ball effectively opens things up for the offense. The Packers were lucky to make the playoffs and in large part due not being able to run the ball. Once they were in, they didn't try to run the ball and were successful.

          The problem is you have to get to the playoffs and being singly focused on passing the football over a 16 game schedule will get you watching the playoffs rather than being in them. The Packers were good and fortunate this year. If they have to rely on Rodgers to win enough games to get into the playoffs next year, they may not be in the playoffs and not because Rodgers is a bad quarterback, but because, it's almost impossible to carry a team using one guy and running the ball 9 tines per game.

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          • fordfixer
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 10921

            #35
            Re: 60 minutes of football

            Originally posted by papillon
            Were the Steelers more effective running the ball this year? Yes
            Is their record better than last year? Yes
            Did Ben have a good year? Yes
            Did Ben have a good year last year? Yes
            Did the Steelers run the ball effectively last year? No
            Did the Steelers get in the playoffs last year? No
            Did the Steelers make the playoffs this year? Yes

            Ben was the same, the defense basically the same, the STs a bit better this year, but the running game was improved 2 fold. Running the ball effectively opens things up for the offense. The Packers were lucky to make the playoffs and in large part due not being able to run the ball. Once they were in, they didn't try to run the ball and were successful.

            The problem is you have to get to the playoffs and being singly focused on passing the football over a 16 game schedule will get you watching the playoffs rather than being in them. The Packers were good and fortunate this year. If they have to rely on Rodgers to win enough games to get into the playoffs next year, they may not be in the playoffs and not because Rodgers is a bad quarterback, but because, it's almost impossible to carry a team using one guy and running the ball 9 tines per game.

            Pappy

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            • Crash
              Legend
              • Apr 2009
              • 5008

              #36
              Re: 60 minutes of football

              Was it that improved or did they just do it more?

              Look at Mendenhall game by game. Then tell me it was so much better?

              8th in attempts, but 11th in yards and 17th in yards per carry.

              The running game would work better if they used Mendy (and the OL) like they should.

              When Arians finally does go, and Fichtner runs the Memphis spread? Mendy will have his first 1500 season.

              Just watch.

              In fact, it could be argued that Mendenhall was better LAST season.

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              • skyhawk
                Hall of Famer
                • Dec 2008
                • 3732

                #37
                Re: 60 minutes of football

                Originally posted by Crash
                We don't need 40 throws a game. Attempts aren't the issue.

                You can run the ball. But that doesn't mean you run just for the sake of doing it.

                Wallace, Sanders, Brown. The fastest set of WR's we've had in 15 years.

                So keep Spaeth and Johnson on the bench where they belong.
                Willie Gault was fast and he s ucked.

                Those three are fast but I am not convinced they are top WRs.

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                • Crash
                  Legend
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 5008

                  #38
                  Re: 60 minutes of football

                  Willie Gault was fast and he s ucked.
                  He did? If Willie Gault played in this era and had a top flight QB like Ben he'd be Mike Wallace with even more speed.

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                  • hawaiiansteel
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 35649

                    #39
                    Re: 60 minutes of football

                    Originally posted by skyhawk
                    Willie Gault was fast and he s ucked.

                    Willie Gault did not suck, he averaged 19.9 yds per catch and scored 44 TDs in his career.

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                    • skyhawk
                      Hall of Famer
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 3732

                      #40
                      Re: 60 minutes of football

                      Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                      Originally posted by skyhawk
                      Willie Gault was fast and he s ucked.

                      Willie Gault did not suck, he averaged 19.9 yds per catch and scored 44 TDs in his career.
                      If speed was all that mattered he would have been a hall of famer. But even with top speed like that he was only an average to above average receiver.

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                      • Crash
                        Legend
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 5008

                        #41
                        Re: 60 minutes of football

                        He was a deep threat. He did what he was asked to do.

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