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  • feltdizz
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 27531

    60 minutes of football

    We had a first round bye... and in a blink of an eye the Ravens put up 21 points.

    We had 2 weeks before the SB... and in the blink of an eye the Pack put up 21 on us.

    What the hell is wrong with our team? Why can't we play 4 quarters of football?

    Steelers 27
    Rats 16
  • Crash
    Legend
    • Apr 2009
    • 5008

    #2
    Re: 60 minutes of football

    Cause we start out slow because we have to try and run or throw WR screens to Ward.

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    • feltdizz
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 27531

      #3
      Re: 60 minutes of football

      Originally posted by Crash
      Cause we start out slow because we have to try and run or throw WR screens to Ward.
      The Ward screen picked up 4 yards.. it was a good gain on first down. I'm not a fan of that play but it's not the reason we have played 2 bad quarters the last 3 games.

      I'm talking about the D and the O, not Ward.
      Steelers 27
      Rats 16

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      • BURGH86STEEL
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 6921

        #4
        Re: 60 minutes of football

        Originally posted by feltdizz
        Originally posted by Crash
        Cause we start out slow because we have to try and run or throw WR screens to Ward.
        The Ward screen picked up 4 yards.. it was a good gain on first down. I'm not a fan of that play but it's not the reason we have played 2 bad quarters the last 3 games.

        I'm talking about the D and the O, not Ward.
        The broken record continues to play.

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        • Crash
          Legend
          • Apr 2009
          • 5008

          #5
          Re: 60 minutes of football

          Originally posted by feltdizz
          Originally posted by Crash
          Cause we start out slow because we have to try and run or throw WR screens to Ward.
          The Ward screen picked up 4 yards.. it was a good gain on first down. I'm not a fan of that play but it's not the reason we have played 2 bad quarters the last 3 games.

          I'm talking about the D and the O, not Ward.
          I'm talking about our mindset. We have started slow out of the gate all year. Slow, WR screens, run the ball, plod along.

          The only time the offense does anything is when we come out of the gate flying. Aggressive, attack.

          We don't do that anymore because people insisting we need to establish running games and appease the yinzers.

          We are <> close, with a few tinks here and there from really being a good balanced team, and a diverse offense. The talent is there. They have to want to use it though.

          But the insistence of trying to please the public by embracing the past has to stop first.

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          • SteelCrazy
            Legend
            • Aug 2008
            • 5049

            #6
            Re: 60 minutes of football

            That 1st drive stalled because Brown ran the wrong route. Mental error skilled us when the formation didnt.
            2019 Mock

            1. ILB
            2. CB
            3. ILB
            4. S
            5. CB
            6. ILB
            7. S

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            • SteelCrazy
              Legend
              • Aug 2008
              • 5049

              #7
              Re: 60 minutes of football

              Originally posted by Crash
              Originally posted by feltdizz
              Originally posted by Crash
              Cause we start out slow because we have to try and run or throw WR screens to Ward.
              The Ward screen picked up 4 yards.. it was a good gain on first down. I'm not a fan of that play but it's not the reason we have played 2 bad quarters the last 3 games.

              I'm talking about the D and the O, not Ward.
              I'm talking about our mindset. We have started slow out of the gate all year. Slow, WR screens, run the ball, plod along.

              The only time the offense does anything is when we come out of the gate flying. Aggressive, attack.

              We don't do that anymore because people insisting we need to establish running games and appease the yinzers.

              We are <> close, with a few tinks here and there from really being a good balanced team, and a diverse offense. The talent is there. They have to want to use it though.

              But the insistence of trying to please the public by embracing the past has to stop first.
              If they wanted to please the masses, they wouldnt resign Arians. Mr. Rooney was the one that wanted us to go to a running game. I dont remember him saying anything about that worthless WR screen. Yea, it picked up 4 yards against GB, but it failed more often then it worked this season.
              2019 Mock

              1. ILB
              2. CB
              3. ILB
              4. S
              5. CB
              6. ILB
              7. S

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              • Crash
                Legend
                • Apr 2009
                • 5008

                #8
                Re: 60 minutes of football

                Mr. Rooney was the one that wanted us to go to a running game.
                Like I said:

                But the insistence of trying to please the public by embracing the past has to stop first.

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                • SteelCrazy
                  Legend
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 5049

                  #9
                  Re: 60 minutes of football

                  Originally posted by Crash
                  Mr. Rooney was the one that wanted us to go to a running game.
                  Like I said:

                  But the insistence of trying to please the public by embracing the past has to stop first.
                  Hey, if its the masses their trying to please, I'm all for them to stop. However, we do need a bit of a running game. Ben has yet to prove he can throw it 40 times a game and win CONSISTENTLY.
                  2019 Mock

                  1. ILB
                  2. CB
                  3. ILB
                  4. S
                  5. CB
                  6. ILB
                  7. S

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                  • Crash
                    Legend
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 5008

                    #10
                    Re: 60 minutes of football

                    We don't need 40 throws a game. Attempts aren't the issue.

                    You can run the ball. But that doesn't mean you run just for the sake of doing it.

                    Wallace, Sanders, Brown. The fastest set of WR's we've had in 15 years.

                    So keep Spaeth and Johnson on the bench where they belong.

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                    • SteelCrazy
                      Legend
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 5049

                      #11
                      Re: 60 minutes of football

                      Originally posted by Crash
                      We don't need 40 throws a game. Attempts aren't the issue.

                      You can run the ball. But that doesn't mean you run just for the sake of doing it.

                      Wallace, Sanders, Brown. The fastest set of WR's we've had in 15 years.

                      So keep Spaeth and Johnson on the bench where they belong.
                      You'll get no arguements here when it comes to Speath and Johnson, esp. Johnson. All I want is the wins. If it means throwing 50 times a game or running 50 times, I dont care. Good football...that is what the Steelers bring. Arians laid a big fat egg in the SB. He had them moving the ball and all of a sudden we lose a rookie WR and hecant figure it out. There's no room in this game for limited thinking....The reason we saw so much of the TE's is because he couldn't run his 5 wideouts. He cant think outside of the box and that's where he needs to be....and thats why he cant get a HC job. Not because he is almost 60.
                      2019 Mock

                      1. ILB
                      2. CB
                      3. ILB
                      4. S
                      5. CB
                      6. ILB
                      7. S

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                      • RuthlessBurgher
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 33208

                        #12
                        Re: 60 minutes of football

                        This whole running more to "appease the yinzers" is insulting.

                        Rooney didn't say to run more often. He said to run more consistently. Be able to run when we need to run.

                        Judging by rushing TD's, I'd say we certainly did a better job than last season of being able to run when we needed to run. In 2009, Mendenhall had 7 rushing TD's with 2 by Ben and 1 by Dixon. In 2010, Mendenhall had 13 rushing TD's with 2 by Ben. Progress.

                        Sure, we ran a bit more overall (471 rushes this season vs. 428 last year), but that averages out to less than 3 more rushes per game (2.6875 more rushes per game this year than last year). And what did we get for it? And improvement from 9-7 and out of the playoffs in 2009 to 12-4, a division title, a first round bye, a Super Bowl appearance in 2010. I'd say running the ball 2-3 more times per game and getting a half dozen more rushing TD's by our RB was worth it, eh?
                        Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                        Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                        We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                        We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                        • Crash
                          Legend
                          • Apr 2009
                          • 5008

                          #13
                          Re: 60 minutes of football

                          Our rushing in the red zone still struggles. RZ issues are the offense's main weakness.

                          I almost fainted when we hit the redzone after Redman's run and BA lets Mendy rush with three wide on the field. I was expecting pass all the way because of formation.

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                          • SteelCrazy
                            Legend
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 5049

                            #14
                            Re: 60 minutes of football

                            Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
                            This whole running more to "appease the yinzers" is insulting.

                            Rooney didn't say to run more often. He said to run more consistently. Be able to run when we need to run.

                            Judging by rushing TD's, I'd say we certainly did a better job than last season of being able to run when we needed to run. In 2009, Mendenhall had 7 rushing TD's with 2 by Ben and 1 by Dixon. In 2010, Mendenhall had 13 rushing TD's with 2 by Ben. Progress.

                            Sure, we ran a bit more overall (471 rushes this season vs. 428 last year), but that averages out to less than 3 more rushes per game (2.6875 more rushes per game this year than last year). And what did we get for it? And improvement from 9-7 and out of the playoffs in 2009 to 12-4, a division title, a first round bye, a Super Bowl appearance in 2010. I'd say running the ball 2-3 more times per game and getting a half dozen more rushing TD's by our RB was worth it, eh?
                            Refer to my sig....
                            2019 Mock

                            1. ILB
                            2. CB
                            3. ILB
                            4. S
                            5. CB
                            6. ILB
                            7. S

                            Comment

                            • RuthlessBurgher
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 33208

                              #15
                              Re: 60 minutes of football

                              Originally posted by SteelCrazy
                              Refer to my sig....
                              Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                              Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                              We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                              We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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