60 minutes of football

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Re: 60 minutes of football

Ben has yet to prove he can throw it 40 times a game and win CONSISTENTLY.

Ben is 6-8 in the regular season with 40 or more passes in a game.

After 14 games?

Peyton 3-11.

Brady 8-6

Brees 3-11

Rivers 4-10

Rodgers 2-7 (So he'd have to win his next five straight to surpass Ben and four of five to tie him)

Only Brady beats Ben after 14 games.

See how perception doesn't always equal reality?

[SteelCrazy]

Re: 60 minutes of football

Ben has yet to prove he can throw it 40 times a game and win CONSISTENTLY.

Ben is 6-8 in the regular season with 40 or more passes in a game.

After 14 games?

Peyton 3-11.

Brady 8-6

Brees 3-11

Rivers 4-10

Rodgers 2-7 (So he'd have to win his next five straight to surpass Ben and four of five to tie him)

Only Brady beats Ben after 14 games.

See how perception doesn't always equal reality?

6-8 is not winning consistently no matter what manning and co. have done. Plus Ben is 0-2 in the playoffs when throwing over 40 times. maybe we need to check on over 30 times.

[SteelCrazy]

Re: 60 minutes of football

when throwing 30 or more times in the reg season ben is 20-21 for a winning percentage of 48.7%. Although he has done better in the playoffs 4-2. his only 2 losses??? well, we discussed that earlier. However, like i said, i dont care if he throws it 50 times, as long as we win!

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Re: 60 minutes of football

Ben has yet to prove he can throw it 40 times a game and win CONSISTENTLY.

Ben is 6-8 in the regular season with 40 or more passes in a game.

After 14 games?

Peyton 3-11.

Brady 8-6

Brees 3-11

Rivers 4-10

Rodgers 2-7 (So he'd have to win his next five straight to surpass Ben and four of five to tie him)

Only Brady beats Ben after 14 games.

See how perception doesn't always equal reality?

every statement about Ben isn't a comparison to other QB's...

[eniparadoxgma]

Re: 60 minutes of football

Rooney didn't say to run more often. He said to run more consistently. Be able to run when we need to run.

RB, it might be time to give it up. You know what Rooney meant. I know what Rooney meant. Everyone and their mom knows what Rooney meant. However, some people will never see what Rooney meant because it goes against their vaunted opinions.

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Re: 60 minutes of football

Rooney didn't say to run more often. He said to run more consistently. Be able to run when we need to run.

RB, it might be time to give it up. You know what Rooney meant. I know what Rooney meant. Everyone and their mom knows what Rooney meant. However, some people will never see what Rooney meant because it goes against their vaunted opinions.

Why doesn't Rooney just shut his pie hole and let his coaches coach? How's that?

Rooney also came out and used the Chiefs game as the reason the offense needed to run more consistently because "they weren't ready to play".

Oh really? The special teams gave up an opening kickoff TD and the Steelers offense still scored 17 points in the first half. How much more did he want?

If Jerry Jones was speaking in public about game plans and what coaches needed to do he'd be ripped.

[eniparadoxgma]

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It's simple and it's been spelled out many many many times for you already.

Here we go again, and this is only in reference to what Rooney said:

He said we need to run the ball better..."more effectively"...

He did not say we need to run the ball "more".

Therefore, all of this crap about us running the ball "more" to appease Rooney because Steeler Nation (or the yinzers as you call it) wants us to is nothing more than a straw man that you employ to prop up your own agenda and nothing more.

Everyone else in the world knows what Rooney meant. Why don't you?

[eniparadoxgma]

Re: 60 minutes of football

Rooney didn't say to run more often. He said to run more consistently. Be able to run when we need to run.

RB, it might be time to give it up. You know what Rooney meant. I know what Rooney meant. Everyone and their mom knows what Rooney meant. However, some people will never see what Rooney meant because it goes against their vaunted opinions.

Why doesn't Rooney just shut his pie hole and let his coaches coach? How's that?

Rooney also came out and used the Chiefs game as the reason the offense needed to run more consistently because "they weren't ready to play".

Oh really? The special teams gave up an opening kickoff TD and the Steelers offense still scored 17 points in the first half. How much more did he want?

If Jerry Jones was speaking in public about game plans and what coaches needed to do he'd be ripped.

And all of the above is beside the point. Don't change horses midstream.

[SteelCrazy]

Re: 60 minutes of football

I heard a coach once say this, "A coach that listens to fans ends up sitting with them."

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Re: 60 minutes of football

It's simple and it's been spelled out many many many times for you already.

Here we go again, and this is only in reference to what Rooney said:

He said we need to run the ball better..."more effectively"...

He did not say we need to run the ball "more".

Therefore, all of this crap about us running the ball "more" to appease Rooney because Steeler Nation (or the yinzers as you call it) wants us to is nothing more than a straw man that you employ to prop up your own agenda and nothing more.

Everyone else in the world knows what Rooney meant. Why don't you?

Some said he said run more, some say and said run more consistent. Hell I even said he meant more consistent.

My point is he shouldn't have said anything at all to the staff. Let them coach, or get someone else to do it.

When all I hear from coaches is the preaching of "balance", that's a problem.

He also said that young players needed to play earlier than they are. Arians did that. LeBeau? Nope.

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Re: 60 minutes of football

I heard a coach once say this, "A coach that listens to fans ends up sitting with them."

Does the same hold true for owners?

[SteelCrazy]

Re: 60 minutes of football

I heard a coach once say this, "A coach that listens to fans ends up sitting with them."

Does the same hold true for owners?

No and that could be a problem.

[eniparadoxgma]

Re: 60 minutes of football

It's simple and it's been spelled out many many many times for you already.

Here we go again, and this is only in reference to what Rooney said:

He said we need to run the ball better..."more effectively"...

He did not say we need to run the ball "more".

Therefore, all of this crap about us running the ball "more" to appease Rooney because Steeler Nation (or the yinzers as you call it) wants us to is nothing more than a straw man that you employ to prop up your own agenda and nothing more.

Everyone else in the world knows what Rooney meant. Why don't you?

Some said he said run more, some say and said run more consistent. Hell I even said he meant more consistent.

My point is he shouldn't have said anything at all to the staff. Let them coach, or get someone else to do it.

When all I hear from coaches is the preaching of "balance", that's a problem.

He also said that young players needed to play earlier than they are. Arians did that. LeBeau? Nope.

Okay, so now you're not trying to push the idea that Rooney and the Steeler Organization screwed up by attempting to "run more" to appease Steeler fans because Steeler fans are stuck on <running more = Steelers football>?

You have been saying this for awhile.

Whether or not owners should (OMG) talk about their team is a completely different subject. And for the record, I couldn't care less about Rooney talking about *his* team. It's not like he's throwing people under the bus or anything.

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Re: 60 minutes of football

Okay, so now you're not trying to push the idea that Rooney and the Steeler Organization screwed up by attempting to "run more" to appease Steeler fans because Steeler fans are stuck on <running more = Steelers football>?

No, I believe they did try to appease the yinzers. The minute we throw three times in a row people start whining. Hell Gerry Dulac of the PG was whining that the Steelers threw three times in a row, in the THIRD quarter of the game in Cincy.

I believe the staff was too concerned about running the ball. I'd more concerned about HOW they are trying to do it rather than HOW MUCH.

[eniparadoxgma]

Re: 60 minutes of football

Okay, so now you're not trying to push the idea that Rooney and the Steeler Organization screwed up by attempting to "run more" to appease Steeler fans because Steeler fans are stuck on <running more = Steelers football>?

No, I believe they did try to appease the yinzers. The minute we throw three times in a row people start whining. Hell Gerry Dulac of the PG was whining that the Steelers threw three times in a row, in the THIRD quarter of the game in Cincy.

I'm sorry but I'm not seeing this at all. As a matter of fact I see a lot more "QUIT RUNNING UP THE F@%#@% MIDDLE EVERY PLAY" and "QUIT RUNNING ON 1st and 2nd DOWNS EVERY POSSESSION" than anything else. I actually believe you just have some kind of strange complex that makes you see whatever is most inflammatory towards your already established views. You seem to thrive on this.

"FREE BEN!!!!!!!1111111"

"TAKE THE TIGHT ENDS OFF THE FIELD AND GO WITH MORE 4 WIDE/BUNCH FORMATIONS"

"HINES WARD IS THE DEBIL!!!1"

"EVERYONE THINKS THAT WE NEED TO RUN MORE"

"EVERYONE THINKS BEN IS THE DEBIL BUT OBVIOUSLY THESE OTHER FOOTBALL PLAYERS ARE MUCH WORSE SO I MUST TALK ABOUT THEM EVERY. FRIGGIN. TIME. HE. IS. BROUGHT. UP."

It's like you've got 4 or 5 things written on a tablet and you scream what they say to everyone you meet regardless of the subject of conversation. Keep on crusadin'.

I believe the staff was too concerned about running the ball. I'd more concerned about HOW they are trying to do it rather than HOW MUCH.

It's been pointed out many times that THE STAFF was more concerned with HOW we run the ball (ie MORE EFFECTIVELY/CONSISTENTLY) than HOW MUCH. I'm not sure why you keep trying to win some kind of points with this.