Lefty over Dixon is one of NFL’s worst offseason moves

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  • ANPSTEEL
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    • Jun 2008
    • 888

    #46
    Re: Lefty over Dixon is one of NFL’s worst offseason moves

    Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher

    on a side note:

    that guy is a freakshow.

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    • Dee Dub
      Hall of Famer
      • Jan 2010
      • 4652

      #47
      Re: Lefty over Dixon is one of NFL’s worst offseason moves

      Originally posted by frankthetank1
      Originally posted by Shoe
      Originally posted by Shawn
      I'm very torn on the issue. There is something warm and comfy about Lefty as the starter. He has had good success in our system. He is a guy who knows how to win...been there done that kinda guy. The big games won't rattle him. Dixon has all the talent to be a very good NFL QB but is he ready to handle 4 games of a season? If he was...he would be starting. I have to trust Tomlin's feel of the situation as he is closer to the talent and gets to see them every day.
      What talent does he really have? I mean, his greatest skill probably is his good-for-a-QB speed (i.e. I don't think he runs like Kordell). He really is a poorman's Kordell IMO. He can't throw like Kordell, he can't run like Kordell, (at this point) he can't pass like Kordell... I mean, in that Raven game, we essentially played with them with no one at QB (I know, he may a couple good plays).
      have you seen dixon play besides the raven game last season? i wouldnt say his best skill is his speed. he has a cannon for an arm. he has a much better arm then kordell did. i would also say he is a smarter qb than kordell because kordell was one of the worst qb's when it came to reading a defense and making decisions.
      Yeah Shawn is talking out of the side of his neck. Dixon was one of best pure passers in the country his senior year. 67.7 % completion percentage and 20-4 TD's to INT's before he got hurt.

      The myth on Dixon is his strength is his legs/speed/ability to run but that is not the case. He is, or at least was, best known for his arm.
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      1-Bernardrick McKinney MLB Mississippi State 6 ft 5 250 4.5 40 yard dash

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      • cruzer8
        Starter
        • Nov 2009
        • 977

        #48
        Re: Lefty over Dixon is one of NFL’s worst offseason moves

        Originally posted by ANPSTEEL
        Originally posted by feltdizz
        If Wallace is open and he has to wait or come back its a problem. I don't care how far Ben can throw. If its not on time its a problem. Hopefully it gets fixed and we see a bunch of TD's.

        When a sure 6 turns into Wallace playing defender because the ball is thrown too late its a problem.

        Hopefully he puts it up earlier this year.

        I probably missed a better quote to make this point on-

        but

        IMO, Ben's issue is not arm strength, or timing.

        His issue is with his mechanics / throwing motion.

        We all know Ben runs around like a nut, trying to create plays- but what really causes his "too late" deep ball- is his constant double clutch/pump fake- on deep throws.

        He seemingly began to develop this habit as a way to freeze/move the safety - and subsequently appears to not trust his judgment (I'm sure every safety in the league has been told "don't commit on his first motion")-

        anyway- we can only hope he has been working to stop this habit. But that would also require him learning to actually trust in the play as called.
        That's funny because I hear coaches and former coaches turned analysts rave about how effectively he uses the pump fake when he is trying to freeze the D so a receiver can get open.

        I don't see him using it on every pass. Just when he sees something that we can't see because the camera angle doesn't show us what he's looking at downfield.

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        • ANPSTEEL
          Starter
          • Jun 2008
          • 888

          #49
          Re: Lefty over Dixon is one of NFL’s worst offseason moves

          Originally posted by cruzer8
          Originally posted by ANPSTEEL
          Originally posted by feltdizz
          If Wallace is open and he has to wait or come back its a problem. I don't care how far Ben can throw. If its not on time its a problem. Hopefully it gets fixed and we see a bunch of TD's.

          When a sure 6 turns into Wallace playing defender because the ball is thrown too late its a problem.

          Hopefully he puts it up earlier this year.

          I probably missed a better quote to make this point on-

          but

          IMO, Ben's issue is not arm strength, or timing.

          His issue is with his mechanics / throwing motion.

          We all know Ben runs around like a nut, trying to create plays- but what really causes his "too late" deep ball- is his constant double clutch/pump fake- on deep throws.

          He seemingly began to develop this habit as a way to freeze/move the safety - and subsequently appears to not trust his judgment (I'm sure every safety in the league has been told "don't commit on his first motion")-

          anyway- we can only hope he has been working to stop this habit. But that would also require him learning to actually trust in the play as called.
          That's funny because I hear coaches and former coaches turned analysts rave about how effectively he uses the pump fake when he is trying to freeze the D so a receiver can get open.

          I don't see him using it on every pass. Just when he sees something that we can't see because the camera angle doesn't show us what he's looking at downfield.
          don't listen to the goofy announcers... I'm sure you watch the games and can come to an intelligent conclusion on your own...

          when you do, you'll see Ben start to pat the ball and double hitch on deep patterns.

          He was successful with this in the beginning of the season- but as it went on- this "release" certainly appeared to become more of a habit than intentional.

          Either way- him doing the double pat/hitch/pump- certainly takes time- whereby Wallace is now another 5-10yards deeper, and waiting for the ball to arrive.

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          • cruzer8
            Starter
            • Nov 2009
            • 977

            #50
            Re: Lefty over Dixon is one of NFL’s worst offseason moves

            Originally posted by ANPSTEEL
            Originally posted by cruzer8
            Originally posted by ANPSTEEL
            Originally posted by feltdizz
            If Wallace is open and he has to wait or come back its a problem. I don't care how far Ben can throw. If its not on time its a problem. Hopefully it gets fixed and we see a bunch of TD's.

            When a sure 6 turns into Wallace playing defender because the ball is thrown too late its a problem.

            Hopefully he puts it up earlier this year.

            I probably missed a better quote to make this point on-

            but

            IMO, Ben's issue is not arm strength, or timing.

            His issue is with his mechanics / throwing motion.

            We all know Ben runs around like a nut, trying to create plays- but what really causes his "too late" deep ball- is his constant double clutch/pump fake- on deep throws.

            He seemingly began to develop this habit as a way to freeze/move the safety - and subsequently appears to not trust his judgment (I'm sure every safety in the league has been told "don't commit on his first motion")-

            anyway- we can only hope he has been working to stop this habit. But that would also require him learning to actually trust in the play as called.
            That's funny because I hear coaches and former coaches turned analysts rave about how effectively he uses the pump fake when he is trying to freeze the D so a receiver can get open.

            I don't see him using it on every pass. Just when he sees something that we can't see because the camera angle doesn't show us what he's looking at downfield.
            don't listen to the goofy announcers... I'm sure you watch the games and can come to an intelligent conclusion on your own...

            when you do, you'll see Ben start to pat the ball and double hitch on deep patterns.

            He was successful with this in the beginning of the season- but as it went on- this "release" certainly appeared to become more of a habit than intentional.

            Either way- him doing the double pat/hitch/pump- certainly takes time- whereby Wallace is now another 5-10yards deeper, and waiting for the ball to arrive.
            You must have missed that.

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