Lefty over Dixon is one of NFL’s worst offseason moves

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Re: Lefty over Dixon is one of NFL’s worst offseason moves

As much as I love Ben (and want to see Dixon play) I will say this, I can see Lefty hitting Wallace in stride on a long bomb for a TD. Something Ben struggles with big time.

*sigh*

It was all a timing issue and the story at camp was they have worked out the timing issue and Ben was hitting Wallace deep and in stride. Ben's deep ball is as good as anyone's but when it's not thrown on time then there's a problem.

/is getting tired of repeating this so please: learn it, know it, live it.

Whatever the issue, Ben can work on consistency with his deep passes. As of today, I don't believe his deep passes are among the best in the league. That's because the consistency is not where it needs to be.

Leftwich might do better with the deep passes to Wallace because I believe he has a stronger arm and appears to make quicker decisions then Ben.

[steelblitz]

Re: Lefty over Dixon is one of NFL’s worst offseason moves

As much as I love Ben (and want to see Dixon play) I will say this, I can see Lefty hitting Wallace in stride on a long bomb for a TD. Something Ben struggles with big time.

*sigh*

It was all a timing issue and the story at camp was they have worked out the timing issue and Ben was hitting Wallace deep and in stride. Ben's deep ball is as good as anyone's but when it's not thrown on time then there's a problem.

/is getting tired of repeating this so please: learn it, know it, live it.

Oh, I'm so sorry. I didn't get the memo that this was a touchy subject for you.

Here's an idea.... I'll let it be proven out on the field, consistently, instead of taking your word for it. You act as if OTAs are the same as live action.

[cruzer8]

Re: Lefty over Dixon is one of NFL’s worst offseason moves

You don't have to take my word for it. Watch the games. If you recognize what you are seeing it's clear that Ben was throwing the ball late to Wallace last season. If he throws it a split second earlier he's hitting him in stride. That's a timing issue.

Btw, here's the scouting report on Ben:

Assets - Great arm. Can make all the throws. Throws an accurate deep ball. Can make things happen when the play breaks down. Runs well and is hard to bring down.

Flaws - Takes way too long in the pocket and gets sacked a lot. Doesn't have the timing to hit open receivers in stride early in the play. Still throws too many picks. Has had an increasing amount of worrisome off-field trouble.

There you have it from professional scouts.

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There are plenty more out there. Just do a google search and you'll see.

[steelblitz]

Re: Lefty over Dixon is one of NFL’s worst offseason moves

Thank you sir, and I appreciate the optimism.

[cruzer8]

Re: Lefty over Dixon is one of NFL’s worst offseason moves

Thank you sir, and I appreciate the optimism.

And I need to apologize. It's difficut to understand tone sometimes with just the printed word. My *sigh* post was more goofing around than anything, but it is true that the timing thing has always been a bit of an issue for Ben. Couple that with Wallace being faster than any WR he's ever had to throw to and that will magnify the issue. But reports from OTAs were that they worked on the timing and it seems to have been resolved.

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Re: Lefty over Dixon is one of NFL’s worst offseason moves

As much as I love Ben (and want to see Dixon play) I will say this, I can see Lefty hitting Wallace in stride on a long bomb for a TD. Something Ben struggles with big time.

*sigh*

It was all a timing issue and the story at camp was they have worked out the timing issue and Ben was hitting Wallace deep and in stride. Ben's deep ball is as good as anyone's but when it's not thrown on time then there's a problem.

/is getting tired of repeating this so please: learn it, know it, live it.

Oh, I'm so sorry. I didn't get the memo that this was a touchy subject for you.

Here's an idea.... I'll let it be proven out on the field, consistently, instead of taking your word for it. You act as if OTAs are the same as live action.

They can't handle critiques of Ben... be very careful.

Game day is when we find out if it's fixed.

[steelblitz]

Re: Lefty over Dixon is one of NFL’s worst offseason moves

It's all good cruzer8, we're Steelers fans we're tougher than that......

ouch I hurt my finger on the keyboard.

[RuthlessBurgher]

Re: Lefty over Dixon is one of NFL’s worst offseason moves

It's all good cruzer8, we're Steelers fans we're tougher than that......

ouch I hurt my finger on the keyboard.

I sure hope it wasn't your Johnny Cash middle finger.

If it was, we'll have to place you on the PUP list, and you'll be ineligible for the first 6 games of the season.

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Re: Lefty over Dixon is one of NFL’s worst offseason moves

I'm very torn on the issue. There is something warm and comfy about Lefty as the starter. He has had good success in our system. He is a guy who knows how to win...been there done that kinda guy. The big games won't rattle him. Dixon has all the talent to be a very good NFL QB but is he ready to handle 4 games of a season? If he was...he would be starting. I have to trust Tomlin's feel of the situation as he is closer to the talent and gets to see them every day.

What talent does he really have? I mean, his greatest skill probably is his good-for-a-QB speed (i.e. I don't think he runs like Kordell). He really is a poorman's Kordell IMO. He can't throw like Kordell, he can't run like Kordell, (at this point) he can't pass like Kordell... I mean, in that Raven game, we essentially played with them with no one at QB (I know, he may a couple good plays).

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Re: Lefty over Dixon is one of NFL’s worst offseason moves

As much as I love Ben (and want to see Dixon play) I will say this, I can see Lefty hitting Wallace in stride on a long bomb for a TD. Something Ben struggles with big time.

*sigh*

It was all a timing issue and the story at camp was they have worked out the timing issue and Ben was hitting Wallace deep and in stride. Ben's deep ball is as good as anyone's but when it's not thrown on time then there's a problem.

/is getting tired of repeating this so please: learn it, know it, live it.

Oh, I'm so sorry. I didn't get the memo that this was a touchy subject for you.

Here's an idea.... I'll let it be proven out on the field, consistently, instead of taking your word for it. You act as if OTAs are the same as live action.

They can't handle critiques of Ben... be very careful.

Game day is when we find out if it's fixed.

It's not a critique if it's not true.

[Dee Dub]

Re: Lefty over Dixon is one of NFL’s worst offseason moves

Why anyone would read anything more from this article that follows this>>>>>>>>>>> "worsened by stud right tackle Willie Colon's".....or why any knowledgeable Steeler fan would waste the time to comment on garbage like this is beyond me.

Willie Colon is a decent/adeqaute RT but in no way shape or form is he a "STUD". Nor ever will be.

If he is the definition of what a stud in football is.....then he is the type that needs to be taken out to pasture.

I cant believe people get paid to right stuff like this.

[Crash]

Re: Lefty over Dixon is one of NFL’s worst offseason moves

As much as I love Ben (and want to see Dixon play) I will say this, I can see Lefty hitting Wallace in stride on a long bomb for a TD. Something Ben struggles with big time.

Dammit that just isn't true. It's not. And it wasn't last season.

Why do you people insist that it is?

How in the hell can Wallace lead the league in YPC if Ben struggles to hit him?

And before you say it? Wallace averaged only 3.4 YAC yards on his receptions.

[SteelAbility]

Re: Lefty over Dixon is one of NFL’s worst offseason moves

How could Lefty over Dixon be a bad move. Clearly, based on a small sample set of isolated plays, Lefty is better than Ben.

[hawaiiansteel]

Re: Lefty over Dixon is one of NFL’s worst offseason moves

As much as I love Ben (and want to see Dixon play) I will say this, I can see Lefty hitting Wallace in stride on a long bomb for a TD. Something Ben struggles with big time.

Dammit that just isn't true. It's not. And it wasn't last season.

Why do you people insist that it is?

How in the hell can Wallace lead the league in YPC if Ben struggles to hit him?

And before you say it? Wallace averaged only 3.4 YAC yards on his receptions.

this comes directly from the Bleacher Report, so you know it must be true...



Mike Wallace Has a Better Year Than Santonio Holmes





Santonio Holmes was a Super Bowl MVP and the Steelers' leading receiver in two of the last three seasons.

Mike Wallace was a third round pick out of Mississippi in 2009 and burst onto the scene with little fanfare to go with his 756 yards and six touchdowns as a rookie.

While many would argue that the attention Holmes and Ward drew away from the rookie allowed him to get open as often as he did, others would point out that Wallace is far superior than Holmes was at this point in his career.

In fact, during the 2009 season, Wallace was often so fast that he was under thrown on deep balls that cost him yards and touchdowns.

The Steelers obviously thought highly enough of Wallace’s abilities to rid themselves of Holmes’ off the field headaches by trading him to the Jets in 2009 for as little as a fifth round pick.

Holmes will no longer have the high-powered passing attack of the Pittsburgh Steelers and the arm of Ben Roethlisberger to depend on with the Jets. His addition to the Jets offense will help them, but Mark Sanchez is certainly not going to throw the ball 40 times a game in New York.

The increase in chances for Wallace with Holmes gone should not only allow him to break the 1,000 yard mark in his sophomore season, but also increase on his touchdown totals as well.

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Re: Lefty over Dixon is one of NFL’s worst offseason moves

Wallace stepped out of bounds in Cincy when he should have scored. Sweed dropped a deep ball TD the same game. Wallace dropped a deep pass for a TD in Detroit.

Ben really struggled one game with the deep ball for Wallace: Bengals II. But thats it.

Ben was also hit when he threw deep to Wallace in Chicago, and at KC when Wallace fumbled.

That crap all evens out. But Ben's deep ball isn't the problem people think it is.