The facts of a draft @ QB

[Northern_Blitz]

Checking my work.

2025 TBA ???
2024 Very early but yes.
2023 Check, Looks like 2 franchise guys
2022 Nope, but Brock Prudy is a top 10-15 QB,
2021 Nope Lawrence is the best of the pack. He is a top 12-16 QB.
2020 Yes, Three franchise QB's!
2019 No
2018 Yes. Two franchise QB's, 2 good to very good ones
2017 Hard to classify, one sure fire all time great bring up the average.
2016 Yep

That is ten drafts.

Can you please list the 20 above average QBs from these drafts (can you even have 20 above average QBs in a league with 32 starters?)? And note which 10 you think are franchise QBs?

[Joel Buchsbaum]

Who are the 12 above average QBs in the last 6 drafts?

Remember that 6 of them can't just be above average, they need to be franchise QBs.

Northern,

I said franchise QB's ( top 8 ) or very good to good QB's ( say top 9-18 ). If you do not have one, draft a QB in round one or two.

When you don't have one of them, you are not winning a playoff game 90% of the time! Agreed???

I could list 12 names , but I defer to a higher authority then me. The NFL QBR rating in 2024. Agreed?


https://www.espn.com/nfl/qbr/_/seasontype/2


Look closely as there are plenty of them under 30! IE, they were drafted before 2016!

I like the chat and am willing to do some work to better explain my posts.

-JB

[WindyCitySteel]

The more I think about it, the less I want a QB on day 1 or 2. If Howard or McCord or Dart falls to the 4th or 5th, take a flier. DL/RB/WR are the targets on day 1 and 2.

Wouldn’t be surprised to see the Steelers sign Fields and reunite with Rudolph, opening a spot for a rookie late rounder.

[WindyCitySteel]

This one is for Joel.

https://x.com/ByJoshCarney/status/1883554378415833401

[Northern_Blitz]

Northern,

I said franchise QB's ( top 8 ) or very good to good QB's ( say top 9-18 ). If you do not have one, draft a QB in round one or two.

When you don't have one of them, you are not winning a playoff game 90% of the time! Agreed???

I could list 12 names , but I defer to a higher authority then me. The NFL QBR rating in 2024. Agreed?


https://www.espn.com/nfl/qbr/_/seasontype/2


Look closely as there are plenty of them under 30! IE, they were drafted before 2016!

I like the chat and am willing to do some work to better explain my posts.

-JB

Here's what you said

So a draft usually has a franchise guy in it ( top 8 qb ) and 1 good to very good QB's Top ( 15-20 ). Agreed?

I think "or" (cutting your prediction by half) is probably still high, but I do think that the average is probably close to 1 / draft than 0.5 / draft.

I'm also glad that we agree that the main reason we aren't winning in the playoffs is that we haven't had good QB play.

[Northern_Blitz]

The more I think about it, the less I want a QB on day 1 or 2. If Howard or McCord or Dart falls to the 4th or 5th, take a flier. DL/RB/WR are the targets on day 1 and 2.

Wouldn’t be surprised to see the Steelers sign Fields and reunite with Rudolph, opening a spot for a rookie late rounder.

Yep.

I don't think we'll have a viable option fall to us in the 1st.

It doesn't sound like either of these top guys are good enough for us to trade up to a top 5 pick or whatever it would cost (top 3?).

And I don't really like the idea of day 2 QBs. Seems like it's almost certainly a wasted pick you could use to improve the rest of the team (and we need it). This is why I didn't like the Rudolph or Dobbs picks.

Sign Fields as a bridge. Hope like hell he learns how to go through progressions, not mess up CQ exchanges, and fumbles less.

I'd be ok with a day 3 QB. Those picks are probably not starters at other positions either.

[hawaiiansteel]

The more I think about it, the less I want a QB on day 1 or 2. If Howard or McCord or Dart falls to the 4th or 5th, take a flier. DL/RB/WR are the targets on day 1 and 2.

Wouldn’t be surprised to see the Steelers sign Fields and reunite with Rudolph, opening a spot for a rookie late rounder.

Draft McCord in the first round.

Offer Rudolph a $20 million / year contract.

QB problem solved.

[whatever]

We should not draft any QBs and then say , let’s wait for a bad year to draft one.
hell, it’s been working for numerous years. .500 baby!

[hawaiiansteel]

We should not draft any QBs and then say , let’s wait for a bad year to draft one.
hell, it’s been working for numerous years. .500 baby!

We did try, but struck out with Kenny Pickett.

[feltdizz]

The more I think about it, the less I want a QB on day 1 or 2. If Howard or McCord or Dart falls to the 4th or 5th, take a flier. DL/RB/WR are the targets on day 1 and 2.

Wouldn’t be surprised to see the Steelers sign Fields and reunite with Rudolph, opening a spot for a rookie late rounder.

Rudolph would be a fool to come back here. I seriously doubt that happens unless no one else wants him.

[Northern_Blitz]

Rudolph would be a fool to come back here. I seriously doubt that happens unless no one else wants him.

If we don't bring Russ back and we sign Fields for less than $20MM, I don't see why Rudolph couldn't win the starting job.

Especially if Fields can't get the CQ exchange down. Or has multiple silly fumbles.

Rudolph isn't going to get a starting job on day 1 IMO. If he was behind Fields here, he'd have a shot to be the starter by the end of the year IMO.

But I'd completely understand if he wanted to be somewhere else.

[hawaiiansteel]

Rudolph would be a fool to come back here. I seriously doubt that happens unless no one else wants him.

We need to bring Kenny Pickett back.

The Eagles trade for him and they immediately go to the Super Bowl.

[whatever]

If we don't bring Russ back and we sign Fields for less than $20MM, I don't see why Rudolph couldn't win the starting job.

Especially if Fields can't get the CQ exchange down. Or has multiple silly fumbles.

Rudolph isn't going to get a starting job on day 1 IMO. If he was behind Fields here, he'd have a shot to be the starter by the end of the year IMO.

But I'd completely understand if he wanted to be somewhere else.

Rudolph is a first round talent

[hawaiiansteel]

If we don't bring Russ back and we sign Fields for less than $20MM, I don't see why Rudolph couldn't win the starting job.

I can see why he wouldn't.

Rudolph isn't good.

[feltdizz]

We need to bring Kenny Pickett back.

The Eagles trade for him and they immediately go to the Super Bowl.

told everyone Kenny was going to the SB by his 4th year.. lol