Sorry Folks But Ben is Gone...

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Re: Sorry Folks But Ben is Gone...

we just think that the law has spoken & Ben has the right to resume his position with the team without prejudice, but not without reprimand.

He does indeed have the right to resume his career but others have the right to look at the information available and draw their own conclusions and, if they like, call for him to be traded, cut, suspended or whatever. His right to continue his life does not supercede anybody else's right to speak their opinions of him.

For the record, I hope the Steelers keep him and give him a chance. If it was clear cut that he did something wrong (even without criminal charges) I would want them to get rid. But I don't see how anybody comes down on this with a firm opinion one way or the other. There is evidence of wrongdoing but it is not overwhelming.

Pretty foolish to draw those conclusions from, at best, unreliable and inconsistent information though. Don't you think?

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With no DNA, no video evidence and no eyewitness accounts, the investigation was dealt its final blow on April 2.

Ten days later, Mr. Bright announced on live television that there would be no charges filed against Mr. Roethlisberger. His obstacle, he said, was not being able to prove that a crime was committed beyond a reasonable doubt.

Since we're highlighting the article, allow me to highlight the ONLY portion that matters. We get it, some of you want him to be guilty, it's over...you're beating a dead horse, let it go & wait for the punishment or trading that's to come.

I also would have highlighted this part:

Forensic evidence, it turned out, was scant. Although testing showed the presence of male human DNA from the woman, there was no way to match it to Mr. Roethlisberger or anyone else, according to Ted R. Staples, GBI's manager of forensic biology.

"It was an extremely small quantity of that, and there simply was not enough to generate a nuclear DNA profile from that male" Mr. Staples said. "We carried it forward and made an attempt [to obtain a DNA profile.] The only profile generated was that of the female."

Even with today's technology, the sample was so infinitesimal that nothing could be determined.

"Normally what we're looking for is about a nanogram of DNA, which is a billionth of a gram. A raisin weighs about a gram, so if you could cut a raisin into a billion pieces, we need one of those. So this particular result was far less than even a nanogram. There was something there. It just wasn't enough."

Mr. Staples said scientists could not discern the source of the DNA in the sample, whether it was from saliva, semen or something else.

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Re: Sorry Folks But Ben is Gone...

we just think that the law has spoken & Ben has the right to resume his position with the team without prejudice, but not without reprimand.

He does indeed have the right to resume his career but others have the right to look at the information available and draw their own conclusions and, if they like, call for him to be traded, cut, suspended or whatever. His right to continue his life does not supercede anybody else's right to speak their opinions of him.

For the record, I hope the Steelers keep him and give him a chance. If it was clear cut that he did something wrong (even without criminal charges) I would want them to get rid. But I don't see how anybody comes down on this with a firm opinion one way or the other. There is evidence of wrongdoing but it is not overwhelming.

Pretty foolish to draw those conclusions from, at best, unreliable and inconsistent information though. Don't you think?

What conclusions, specifically?

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Re: Sorry Folks But Ben is Gone...

we just think that the law has spoken & Ben has the right to resume his position with the team without prejudice, but not without reprimand.

He does indeed have the right to resume his career but others have the right to look at the information available and draw their own conclusions and, if they like, call for him to be traded, cut, suspended or whatever. His right to continue his life does not supercede anybody else's right to speak their opinions of him.

For the record, I hope the Steelers keep him and give him a chance. If it was clear cut that he did something wrong (even without criminal charges) I would want them to get rid. But I don't see how anybody comes down on this with a firm opinion one way or the other. There is evidence of wrongdoing but it is not overwhelming.

Pretty foolish to draw those conclusions from, at best, unreliable and inconsistent information though. Don't you think?

What conclusions, specifically?

I wasn't referring to any conclusions that you may have drawn. I was referring to your statement as it relates to many Steelers fans who have drawn the conclusion that even law enforcement and the DA in Georgia were not able to prove.

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I wasn't referring to any conclusions that you may have drawn. I was referring to your statement as it relates to many Steelers fans who have drawn the conclusion that even law enforcement and the DA in Georgia were not able to prove.

Well, I think part of that is that people are taking Ben's behavior on the whole and letting it inform their opinions on what happened in this particular incident. It's been discussed before but there is a difference between a criminal conviction and what goes on in the court of public opinion. And with the numerous stories about Ben I don't find it all that surprising that there are people who are saying that all things considered they would prefer the Steelers to get rid.

But like I said before, I don't really understand how anybody forms a solid and immutable opinion one wary or the other on this one.