Chargers Shopping Antonio Cromartie....

[RuthlessBurgher]

Re: Chargers Shopping Antonio Cromartie....

Well, if you are considering giving up a premium draft pick, you should be looking beyond 2010. A second round pick should be gold...you should get a solid player at a reasonable salary from now until the middle of the decade.

Here's a list of the most recent Steeler second round picks.

Kraig Urbik, Limas Sweed, LaMarr Woodley, Anthony Smith, Bryant McFadden, Ricardo Colclough, and Alonzo Jackson

Outside of Woodley, notice something there? Not really premium.

What we as fans think should happen with a second round pick isn’t always realistic. In fact the percentage throughout the league over the history of the draft is most aren’t premium picks.

With Cromartie we get an immedaite starter, a better player than the incumbent, and quite possibly an elite player maker.

Kraig Urbik and Anthony Smith were not second round picks. Both were taken in the third round.

The 2nd round picks in the Colbert era:

00 Marvel Smith (fixture at LT for most of the decade; made a Pro Bowl)
01 Kendrell Bell (NFL defensive rookie of the year; made a Pro Bowl)
02 Antwaan Randle El (versatile offensive & ST weapon; threw TD pass in SBXL)
03 Alonzo Jackson (BUST!)
04 Ricardo Colclough (BUST!)
05 Bryant McFadden (made plays as a rookie during SBXL run; starting CB in SBXLIII)
06 N/A
07 LaMarr Woodley (one of the best young sack artists in the league; made a Pro Bowl)
08 Limas Sweed (plagued by crucial drops early in his career)
09 N/A

So out of 8 picks in the second round during the Colbert era, 3 of them went to the Pro Bowl as Steelers, 2 were useful contributors to championship teams, 2 were outright busts, and one remains a big ol' question mark at this point. It's not nearly as stellar as Colbert's string of extraordinarily successful first round picks, but it is certainly not awful.

[Dee Dub]

Re: Chargers Shopping Antonio Cromartie....

CB is overrated... all CBs suck without a pass rush... and look great WITH a pass rush.

With the pass rush the steelers had for portions of last year, Cromartie would have been toasted just as badly as Gay...

We were second in the league in sacks this year and our CBs looked horrible. So we had good pressure and it didn't help the CBs at all.

Our CBs looked horrible primarily when trying to prevent the other team from coming back. How many sacks did we get on those drives? Not many. Pressure and coverage go hand-in-hand.

You can't throw a number out and say "see, there ya go".

Cha-Ching! Our problem wasn't stopping the pass in quarters 1-3 it was in the fourth when our aging DLine was tired winded and playing like old men. We got almost no push late in games.

So the Steelers secondary/corners were only bad late in games?

It has been so long since the Steelers had a bonafide corner that most fans have forgotten what one can actually do.

Take a look at Darrell Rivas. What he is doing and what he is doing for the Jets has very little to do with their passs rush. In fact it is the other way around.

[Shawn]

Re: Chargers Shopping Antonio Cromartie....

I'm not saying we don't need to improve in the secondary. Look at my mock. What I'm saying is very few DBs could have played well in the 4th with the pathetic push we got late in games.

[NJ-STEELER]

Re: Chargers Shopping Antonio Cromartie....

thats a terrible ole' vs the jets

but for a 2nd, i'd take him


with the way our DB's looked last year, maybe its time to look a lil away from

"cornerbacks that can support the run" and worry a bit more about their coverage ability

[hawaiiansteel]

Re: Chargers Shopping Antonio Cromartie....

thats a terrible ole' vs the jets

but for a 2nd, i'd take him


with the way our DB's looked last year, maybe its time to look a lil away from

"cornerbacks that can support the run" and worry a bit more about their coverage ability

I might be willing to trade an 8th round draft choice for "Cro"...


Buyer beware on Cromartie

Posted by Mike Florio on February 18, 2010 11:46 AM ET


Recently, reports have emerged that the Chargers are looking to trade cornerback Antonio Cromartie.

We can't blame them. Apart from the off-field issues that bubble up from time to time, Cromartie's performance has dipped.

And as we all saw during the AFC division-round game between the Chargers and the Jets, there's a real question as to whether Cromartie was trying to tackle the opposing ball carrier on two key plays during the upset loss. (Even Rickey Henderson thought Cromartie was "jaking it.")

Thus, as Peter King of SI.com pointed out earlier today, anyone who trades for Cromartie is trading for a "sack of problems."

Some might describe "Cro" as a "sack" of something else.

[feltdizz]

Re: Chargers Shopping Antonio Cromartie....

People are still making excuses for the CB's in the fourth quarter? C'mon fellas... these guys were Jo where near their WR's...

Stop defending bad play, no one on this board plays on the team so why are some people acting like their work ethic is being challenged.

If Cromartie is available and affordable you take him. This is a no brainer... our entire defensive backfield gave the same effort as Cromartie in that clip in 7 games last year.

Imagine what 4 to 6 int's from a CB would do for this team?

[Dee Dub]

Re: Chargers Shopping Antonio Cromartie....

thats a terrible ole' vs the jets

but for a 2nd, i'd take him


with the way our DB's looked last year, maybe its time to look a lil away from

"cornerbacks that can support the run" and worry a bit more about their coverage ability

I might be willing to trade an 8th round draft choice for "Cro"...


Buyer beware on Cromartie

Posted by Mike Florio on February 18, 2010 11:46 AM ET


Recently, reports have emerged that the Chargers are looking to trade cornerback Antonio Cromartie.

We can't blame them. Apart from the off-field issues that bubble up from time to time, Cromartie's performance has dipped.

And as we all saw during the AFC division-round game between the Chargers and the Jets, there's a real question as to whether Cromartie was trying to tackle the opposing ball carrier on two key plays during the upset loss. (Even Rickey Henderson thought Cromartie was "jaking it.")

Thus, as Peter King of SI.com pointed out earlier today, anyone who trades for Cromartie is trading for a "sack of problems."

Some might describe "Cro" as a "sack" of something else.

I may be wrong but I dont think Cromartie has ever been arrested for anythinng...and I dont think having 7 children is a crime. Maybe he has some character issues but so did Greg Lloyd and Bam Morris.

Cromartie now may be available for lower than a second round pick.

I think maybe a change of sceneray may also change is outlook on life. Especially coming to an organization like the Steelers. Everyone deserves a second chance.