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  • Dee Dub
    Hall of Famer
    • Jan 2010
    • 4652

    What do we do...what do we do???

    Do the Steelers trade up 5 slots and draft the best CB in this draft--Joe Haden? A player who because of his above average man to man cover skills could probably play immediately regardless of the complexity of this Steeler defense?

    Do they stay there at 18 and take the safe pick of a Brian Bulaga who most experts believe is the most NFL ready of the O-linemen? A player who could come right in and play RT, be better than Willie Colon, and possibly gives the team the leeway to aquire another pick by trading Colon.

    Do they stay at 18 and take a player with more upside like an Earl Thomas? A player who may not play or give much of an immeadiate return?

    Do they trade down and select a player like Taylor Mays, Dan Williams, Kareem Jackson, or Jared Odrick? And in doing so acquire another high round pick--like an additional second or third?

    What do they do?? What do they? Who are the players in reach which gives this team the most in return for 2010? What players can come in and play and play at a high level in 2010?

    Come on folks Where is the debate? Where is the trash talking? What has become of this site and it's posters? Where is the passion that I once got from this board? Did ya'all loose your nads or what?

    Is this what I came back for??
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  • Shawn
    Legend
    • Mar 2008
    • 15131

    #2
    Re: What do we do...what do we do???

    I like the talent in rounds 2-4...combine that with more of a need this season...I am all for trading down. I really like Odrick...but would be very happy with Cody or Williams . If we stay put I think our pick will be Thomas. No...to trading up.
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    • Dee Dub
      Hall of Famer
      • Jan 2010
      • 4652

      #3
      Re: What do we do...what do we do???

      Originally posted by Shawn
      I like the talent in rounds 2-4...combine that with more of a need this season...I am all for trading down. I really like Odrick...but would be very happy with Cody or Williams . If we stay put I think our pick will be Thomas. No...to trading up.
      That a boy Shawn...

      ...are you telling me that if Joe Haden fell as Todd Mcshay has in his latest mock draft to 13 you would be oppossed to trading up a mere 5 slots to get the best CB in this entire draft? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm???? Interesting.

      Steelers 2015 Draft???....Go Freak! As in....

      1-Bernardrick McKinney MLB Mississippi State 6 ft 5 250 4.5 40 yard dash

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      • Lebsteel
        Pro Bowler
        • May 2008
        • 1007

        #4
        Re: What do we do...what do we do???

        Dee Dub, you are so stupid and a real because anyone with half a brain could see that option 4 is the clearly the way to go, especially the last name mentioned in that option.

        Sorry, I never was very good at trash talking...

        Welcome back!
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        • Dee Dub
          Hall of Famer
          • Jan 2010
          • 4652

          #5
          Re: What do we do...what do we do???

          Originally posted by Lebsteel
          Dee Dub, you are so stupid and a real because anyone with half a brain could see that option 4 is the clearly the way to go, especially the last name mentioned in that option.

          Sorry, I never was very good at trash talking...

          Welcome back!
          Steelers 2015 Draft???....Go Freak! As in....

          1-Bernardrick McKinney MLB Mississippi State 6 ft 5 250 4.5 40 yard dash

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          • steelerkeylargo
            Hall of Famer
            • Mar 2009
            • 2507

            #6
            Re: What do we do...what do we do???

            Originally posted by Dee Dub
            Originally posted by Shawn
            I like the talent in rounds 2-4...combine that with more of a need this season...I am all for trading down. I really like Odrick...but would be very happy with Cody or Williams . If we stay put I think our pick will be Thomas. No...to trading up.
            That a boy Shawn...

            ...are you telling me that if Joe Haden fell as Todd Mcshay has in his latest mock draft to 13 you would be oppossed to trading up a mere 5 slots to get the best CB in this entire draft? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm???? Interesting.


            Todd McShay is a moron and his mock will be completely off basis come april.






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            • Shawn
              Legend
              • Mar 2008
              • 15131

              #7
              Re: What do we do...what do we do???

              Originally posted by Dee Dub
              Originally posted by Shawn
              I like the talent in rounds 2-4...combine that with more of a need this season...I am all for trading down. I really like Odrick...but would be very happy with Cody or Williams . If we stay put I think our pick will be Thomas. No...to trading up.
              That a boy Shawn...

              ...are you telling me that if Joe Haden fell as Todd Mcshay has in his latest mock draft to 13 you would be oppossed to trading up a mere 5 slots to get the best CB in this entire draft? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm???? Interesting.

              I think Thomas will be equally good at the next level. While I see DB as a more important position than FS I'm not willing to give up picks to grab Haden...certainly not this season where the draft is heavy in rounds 2-4 in our positions of need. Lets not forget we have two young DBs who have yet to see alot of. Not to mention I highly doubt Haden drops to 13.
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              • Chadman
                Legend
                • May 2008
                • 6537

                #8
                Re: What do we do...what do we do???

                Seriously doubt the #1 CB in the draft falls out of the Top 10.

                The debate probably shouldn't be so much about taking the #1 anything, as chances are, the Steelers will be in position to get the #2 player in a bunch of positions- NT, CB, FS, even LB.

                The question should be- which position has the greater drop-off from #2 to #3 at his position.

                Figure that out, and you are halfway to deciding who presents better value on the draft board.
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                • Dee Dub
                  Hall of Famer
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 4652

                  #9
                  Re: What do we do...what do we do???

                  Originally posted by Chadman
                  Seriously doubt the #1 CB in the draft falls out of the Top 10.

                  The debate probably shouldn't be so much about taking the #1 anything, as chances are, the Steelers will be in position to get the #2 player in a bunch of positions- NT, CB, FS, even LB.

                  The question should be- which position has the greater drop-off from #2 to #3 at his position.

                  Figure that out, and you are halfway to deciding who presents better value on the draft board.
                  Nice! Chadman that was some thought provoking analysis right there. You managed to not only think outside of the box but you took a tour inside it too. Sweet!

                  Somebody brought their "A" game.
                  Steelers 2015 Draft???....Go Freak! As in....

                  1-Bernardrick McKinney MLB Mississippi State 6 ft 5 250 4.5 40 yard dash

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                  • Dee Dub
                    Hall of Famer
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 4652

                    #10
                    Re: What do we do...what do we do???

                    Originally posted by Shawn
                    Originally posted by Dee Dub
                    Originally posted by Shawn
                    I like the talent in rounds 2-4...combine that with more of a need this season...I am all for trading down. I really like Odrick...but would be very happy with Cody or Williams . If we stay put I think our pick will be Thomas. No...to trading up.
                    That a boy Shawn...

                    ...are you telling me that if Joe Haden fell as Todd Mcshay has in his latest mock draft to 13 you would be oppossed to trading up a mere 5 slots to get the best CB in this entire draft? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm???? Interesting.

                    I think Thomas will be equally good at the next level. While I see DB as a more important position than FS I'm not willing to give up picks to grab Haden...certainly not this season where the draft is heavy in rounds 2-4 in our positions of need. Lets not forget we have two young DBs who have yet to see alot of. Not to mention I highly doubt Haden drops to 13.
                    I too am a big Earl Thomas fan but one thing that really concerns me is that he is undersized. He is a very physcial player who at the next level may break down.

                    The one safety I would keep an eye on that may surprize everyone and end up being the best of them all is Chad Jones of LSU. He could be had in the second and maybe third round.
                    Steelers 2015 Draft???....Go Freak! As in....

                    1-Bernardrick McKinney MLB Mississippi State 6 ft 5 250 4.5 40 yard dash

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                    • hawaiiansteel
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 35649

                      #11
                      Re: What do we do...what do we do???

                      I think a lot also depends on what happens in free agency, do we franchise Casey Hampton? I say yes and transition tag Jeff Reed, that temporarily solves two immediate problems and allows us to address other areas of need early in the draft.

                      Do we re-sign Ryan Clark or pursue a veteran FA? I hope so, if not this becomes an immediate need that needs to be addressed in an early round...Earl Thomas or Taylor Mays in Round 1, Nate Allen, Chad Jones or Morgan Burnett in Rounds 2/3.

                      I say no to trading up, we need all the draft picks we can get. If someone is willing to trade with us and we can pick up and extra 2nd or 3rd round choice I say do it unless there is a player at #18 that we absolutely love.

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                      • SS Laser
                        Pro Bowler
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 1929

                        #12
                        Re: What do we do...what do we do???

                        Ok if the draft worked out this way:

                        [url="http://www.draftcountdown.com/sub/Mock-Draft-A.php"]http://www.draftcountdown.com/sub/Mock-Draft-A.php[/url]

                        Would you dee dub or anyone else jump up for the #1 rated ILB?

                        I have seen him much higher in other mocks.

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                        • BradshawsHairdresser
                          Legend
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 7056

                          #13
                          Re: What do we do...what do we do???

                          If we re-sign Hampton and Clark, I would be quite happy to see the Steelers trade up 5 spots to get Haden, especially if he would, as you say, be ready to play and contribute right away. An immediate upgrade in the backfield would be nice (vs. waiting a year or two).

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                          • Lebsteel
                            Pro Bowler
                            • May 2008
                            • 1007

                            #14
                            Re: What do we do...what do we do???

                            Originally posted by SS Laser
                            Ok if the draft worked out this way:

                            [url="http://www.draftcountdown.com/sub/Mock-Draft-A.php"]http://www.draftcountdown.com/sub/Mock-Draft-A.php[/url]

                            Would you dee dub or anyone else jump up for the #1 rated ILB?

                            I have seen him much higher in other mocks.
                            If we did jump (150 point value), it would require our third round pick valued at 180 points. We might get a 5th rounder to make up the 30 point difference. Given that, I don't think I would jump for McClain unless Williams, Odrick and Thomas were off the board already.
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                            • NJ-STEELER
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 12563

                              #15
                              Re: What do we do...what do we do???

                              Originally posted by SS Laser
                              Ok if the draft worked out this way:

                              [url="http://www.draftcountdown.com/sub/Mock-Draft-A.php"]http://www.draftcountdown.com/sub/Mock-Draft-A.php[/url]

                              Would you dee dub or anyone else jump up for the #1 rated ILB?

                              I have seen him much higher in other mocks.

                              i think i would.

                              even though i rate the secondary as a much greater need, i think mcclain is a difference maker

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