Arians vs. LeBeau

[feltdizz]

Re: Arians vs. LeBeau

Fix the turnover ratio and we will be in the playoffs once again.

We were 27th in takeaways per game and 21st in turnover margin/game (-0.2) vs last season when we were 4th (1.4/game) and 5th (+0.5). And it wasn't because the offense gave it away more this season (almost the same as last on giveaways), it was on the D.

There was more to it than that. We were terrible on preventing third down conversions - 28th in the league, in fact. I'm also surprised nobody has mentioned that our pass defense was ranked 16th this season as opposed to 1st from '08.

People spoke on the pass defense slipping, especially in the 4th quarter, over and over and over again....

but I think some were so focused on another guy to blame.... talking about pass defense was just

[SteelAbility]

Re: Arians vs. LeBeau

Fix the turnover ratio and we will be in the playoffs once again.

We were 27th in takeaways per game and 21st in turnover margin/game (-0.2) vs last season when we were 4th (1.4/game) and 5th (+0.5). And it wasn't because the offense gave it away more this season (almost the same as last on giveaways), it was on the D.

There was more to it than that. We were terrible on preventing third down conversions - 28th in the league, in fact. I'm also surprised nobody has mentioned that our pass defense was ranked 16th this season as opposed to 1st from '08.

People spoke on the pass defense slipping, especially in the 4th quarter, over and over and over again....

but I think some were so focused on another guy to blame.... talking about pass defense was just

Yeah, our offensive 3rd down play was totally rocking this year.

Another poster pointed out that Troy, in his limited playing time, had 3 INTs ... as much as the CBs had ALL season (3, in the last game of the season). Yeah, the loss of Troy is no excuse. After all cake can taste just as good with Splenda as it does with Sugar.

Someone's gotta keep the flame ware alive. Flame and blame. That's how it works. :P

[feltdizz]

Re: Arians vs. LeBeau

Fix the turnover ratio and we will be in the playoffs once again.

We were 27th in takeaways per game and 21st in turnover margin/game (-0.2) vs last season when we were 4th (1.4/game) and 5th (+0.5). And it wasn't because the offense gave it away more this season (almost the same as last on giveaways), it was on the D.

There was more to it than that. We were terrible on preventing third down conversions - 28th in the league, in fact. I'm also surprised nobody has mentioned that our pass defense was ranked 16th this season as opposed to 1st from '08.

People spoke on the pass defense slipping, especially in the 4th quarter, over and over and over again....

but I think some were so focused on another guy to blame.... talking about pass defense was just

Yeah, our offensive 3rd down play was totally rocking this year.

Another poster pointed out that Troy, in his limited playing time, had 3 INTs ... as much as the CBs had ALL season (3, in the last game of the season). Yeah, the loss of Troy is no excuse. After all cake can taste just as good with Splenda as it does with Sugar.

Someone's gotta keep the flame ware alive. Flame and blame. That's how it works. :P

It's too cold to keep playing tennis..

[RuthlessBurgher]

Re: Arians vs. LeBeau

Are we really still talking about this?

Shame on me for even opening a thread titled "Arians vs. LeBeau." Before I even clicked on it, I knew it was going to be the same arguments from the same people that I have read in 47 other threads so far, but my stupid @$$ clicked on it anyway. Guess I'm a glutton for punishment.

[SteelAbility]

Re: Arians vs. LeBeau

Are we really still talking about this?

Shame on me for even opening a thread titled "Arians vs. LeBeau." Before I even clicked on it, I knew it was going to be the same arguments from the same people that I have read in 47 other threads so far, but my stupid @$$ clicked on it anyway. Guess I'm a glutton for punishment.

I think I'll start a "Darth Arians/Master LeBeau" post. Arians' will be photoshopped to appear as a hologram with a hoodie, holding a light saber, while Lebeau will appear hunched over and very wise looking, holding a light saber , with a thought bubble that says "Many schemes, we must make." :P

[RuthlessBurgher]

Re: Arians vs. LeBeau

Are we really still talking about this?

Shame on me for even opening a thread titled "Arians vs. LeBeau." Before I even clicked on it, I knew it was going to be the same arguments from the same people that I have read in 47 other threads so far, but my stupid @$$ clicked on it anyway. Guess I'm a glutton for punishment.

I think I'll start a "Darth Arians/Master LeBeau" post. Arians' will be photoshopped to appear as a hologram with a hoodie, holding a light saber, while Lebeau will appear hunched over and very wise looking, holding a light saber , with a thought bubble that says "Many schemes, we must make." :P

And I'll click on that thread too (if only to see a green LeBeau with pointy ears).

[Oviedo]

Re: Arians vs. LeBeau

Are we really still talking about this?

Shame on me for even opening a thread titled "Arians vs. LeBeau." Before I even clicked on it, I knew it was going to be the same arguments from the same people that I have read in 47 other threads so far, but my stupid @$$ clicked on it anyway. Guess I'm a glutton for punishment.

Shame on you.

Seriously though, what did you expect the responses would be? You just created a free fire zone for the folks who posted the other 252 hate Arians threads.

[feltdizz]

Re: Arians vs. LeBeau

In the other threads someone could blame the OC for the DC or DC for the OC..

yet when you responded to it they claimed you weren't keeping it focused on the OC or DC...

if that makes sense.. LOL!

[Oviedo]

Re: Arians vs. LeBeau

In the other threads someone could blame the OC for the DC or DC for the OC..

yet when you responded to it they claimed you weren't keeping it focused on the OC or DC...

if that makes sense.. LOL!

That's why we should mostly be talking about the draft and the potential college players we can get. Talking about coordinators and coaches is a waste of time.

[feltdizz]

Re: Arians vs. LeBeau

In the other threads someone could blame the OC for the DC or DC for the OC..

yet when you responded to it they claimed you weren't keeping it focused on the OC or DC...

if that makes sense.. LOL!

That's why we should mostly be talking about the draft and the potential college players we can get. Talking about coordinators and coaches is a waste of time.

Talking about the draft is a waste of time too... no one listens to us. *sarcasm*

[SteelTorch]

Re: Arians vs. LeBeau

Fix the turnover ratio and we will be in the playoffs once again.

We were 27th in takeaways per game and 21st in turnover margin/game (-0.2) vs last season when we were 4th (1.4/game) and 5th (+0.5). And it wasn't because the offense gave it away more this season (almost the same as last on giveaways), it was on the D.

There was more to it than that. We were terrible on preventing third down conversions - 28th in the league, in fact. I'm also surprised nobody has mentioned that our pass defense was ranked 16th this season as opposed to 1st from '08.

People spoke on the pass defense slipping, especially in the 4th quarter, over and over and over again....

but I think some were so focused on another guy to blame.... talking about pass defense was just

Why don't you just shut the eff up already? Nobody here is claiming all of our failures were Bruce Arians' fault, and neither did I. You just seem to think that criticizing Arians automatically means ignoring our other weaknesses. On the other hand, just because we had other weaknesses doesn't mean Arians was free from blame either. Grow up, you big baby.

[SteelAbility]

Re: Arians vs. LeBeau

Are we really still talking about this?

Shame on me for even opening a thread titled "Arians vs. LeBeau." Before I even clicked on it, I knew it was going to be the same arguments from the same people that I have read in 47 other threads so far, but my stupid @$$ clicked on it anyway. Guess I'm a glutton for punishment.

I think I'll start a "Darth Arians/Master LeBeau" post. Arians' will be photoshopped to appear as a hologram with a hoodie, holding a light saber, while Lebeau will appear hunched over and very wise looking, holding a light saber , with a thought bubble that says "Many schemes, we must make." :P

And I'll click on that thread too (if only to see a green LeBeau with pointy ears).

Mmmmmmmmm. Much flaming a pathway to the Dark Side is.