ESPN reporting Arians and Ligashesky gone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Starlifter]

Re: ESPN reporting Arians and Ligashesky gone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

never been an arians hater so to speak, but clearly not a big fan. i've also been saying he doesn't have much respect elsewhere in the league. it will be interesting if he gets fired to see where he ends up. does he stay in the NFL? does he end up HC at a division 3 college?

[buckeyehoppy]

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All this Walker character is doing is

This guy doesn't sound like he knows shizzle compared to what we all know.

[Shoe]

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Not going to happen....maybe special teams coach...but not Arians...Tomlin believes in continuity...

Ligashesky will be the the token sacrificial lamb so that the team can say they made a change. Airens will be stay as long Ben wants him.

I hate to say it but I think you're right. Ligashesky should've had his bags packed anyway--you can't expect to have a job with that poor a work record.

But... I said "I hate to say it" because heads definitely should roll. People have to be accountable. That's all there is to it. Otherwise, all your bravado and cliches and "we're gonna unleash hell" "let's pla violent football" mean $hit. (I'm going to begin thinking he got the job because he is a master of quotations... as opposed to football)

Heads need to roll.

[JAR]

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Adam Schefter said on Countdown today that if Cowher gets a coaching job, Colbert may go where Cowher goes.

Well I may decide not to go to work tomorrow too.

I wouldn't read too much into a statement like that. Just some speculation to create a stir. If it happens then Schefter was the first to say it. If it doesn't then no one remembers.

I think Colbert sticks with the Rooneys.

[Mister Pittsburgh]

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About time we shook up the coaches.... now we need to shake up the old D and bring back the FB.

How many people who wanted a pass happy offense are now craving for the smashmouth?
I know I am.. For some reason people acted like we NEVER passed with the smashmouth style.

I don't think it is the pass first offense that is failing, I think it is Bruce Arians designed pass first offense that is failing. They seem to run the pass first fine in New England, Indianapolis, New Orleans, and San Diego. Arians is out of his league in designing such an offense. He runs the same two dozen plays game after game.

[Jooser]

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More from ESPN:

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(after the commercial click the next button on the media player until you come to "Changes Coming for the Steelers" and click it to play)

[SanAntonioSteelerFan]

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What struck me about this is how I, who am pretty ignorant, seem to know a lot more than these so-called experts. Especially the guy who was to Ditka's left (ex-WR on Jets and Bucx?), seems like some producer gave him a cue card with one name on it, "Troy", and that's the only thing he knew about the Steelers.

Nobody mentioned Smith, nobody mentioned play calling suckiness, etc. etc.

Another example of not believing in so called "experts".

BTW - glad to see Vikes crush the Bengals!

[stlrz d]

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Not going to happen....maybe special teams coach...but not Arians...Tomlin believes in continuity...

Ligashesky will be the the token sacrificial lamb so that the team can say they made a change. Airens will be stay as long Ben wants him.

I hate to say it but I think you're right. Ligashesky should've had his bags packed anyway--you can't expect to have a job with that poor a work record.

But... I said "I hate to say it" because heads definitely should roll. People have to be accountable. That's all there is to it. Otherwise, all your bravado and cliches and "we're gonna unleash hell" "let's pla violent football" mean $hit. (I'm going to begin thinking he got the job because he is a master of quotations... as opposed to football)

Heads need to roll.

He got the job because he was confident and because he walked into his interview with a detailed, hour-by-hour plan for mini-camp and training camp.

[SteelCrazy]

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The Steelers had no comment to an ESPN report Sunday that the team could be considering changes on its coaching staff after the season. Special teams coach Bob Ligashesky, offensive line coach Larry Zierlein and offensive coordinator Bruce Arians were mentioned as possible assistant coaches who could be in trouble after the team's recent slide.

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[SteelAbility]

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Shanahan for OC. Anyone else on this bandwagon? C'mon, there's lots of room.

[stlrz d]

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Shanahan for OC. Anyone else on this bandwagon? C'mon, there's lots of room.

Not happening dude.

[Oviedo]

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Shanahan for OC. Anyone else on this bandwagon? C'mon, there's lots of room.

Not happening dude.

Shanahan the elder or Shanahan the younger? Kyle Shanahan (the son) is the OC for the Texans and likely to be job hunting at the end of the season. He would be a good hire IMO.

At the top of my list would also be Gary Kubiak and Jeremy Bates.

[RuthlessBurgher]

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Shanahan for OC. Anyone else on this bandwagon? C'mon, there's lots of room.

Not happening dude.

Shanahan the elder or Shanahan the younger? Kyle Shanahan (the son) is the OC for the Texans and likely to be job hunting at the end of the season. He would be a good hire IMO.

At the top of my list would also be Gary Kubiak and Jeremy Bates.

I'd be happy with USC's O.C. Jeremy Bates or, if the Texans clean house after this season, I would also be happy with Houston's H.C. Gary Kubiak or O.C. Kyle Shanahan. Mike Shanahan will get a head coaching job for next season. He is not an O.C. candidate anywhere.

The only problem with these guys is that we are locked in to big ol' Max Starks and big ol' Chris Kemoeatu. Since they all have Denver ties, they tend to prefer smaller, more athletic o-lineman as opposed to the big fellas we got now.

[ramblinjim]

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I don't like Arians anymore than anyone else but the O-Line played better this year than they have in awhile and I wouldn't be surprised if Zierliene ends up somewhere else next year as an O-line coach. Heck, he may still be here. The Special Teams last year were pretty good, same coach, same players for the most part.... WTF??? Is that all the coaches fault or are some of our young guys this year not as good as our young guys from last year?

I think the OC needs to go. This O-Line who I've just talked up is built for running the football down peoples throats, we have an RB that looks to be the real deal, and a TE and WR's that can make a team pay when they put 9 in the box. It sounds simple to me; run the ball, heavy play action, run the ball some more; TE down the middle of the field. Hines on the slant, Holmes long, Mendy off tackle. It's not a complicated game and we have guys on "O" that seem to be big strong men than can handle themselves, what's the problem.

As much as I hate to admit this, and I love Dick LeBeau and think he should be in the Hall of Fame, but our D this year has not been up to standard. Now Smitty going down hurts the run D and the pass D because he is so much of a handful and Troy going down is huge and Carter is sub-par back there (as is Ratliff), then it just seems like James Farrior got OLD FAST. And we may have made a mistake with Gay as our #2CB so I don't know what's going to happen this off season but I would love to get back to the kind of D we had last season when we were just dominant.

[Jom112]

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Shanahan for OC. Anyone else on this bandwagon? C'mon, there's lots of room.

Not happening dude.

Shanahan the elder or Shanahan the younger? Kyle Shanahan (the son) is the OC for the Texans and likely to be job hunting at the end of the season. He would be a good hire IMO.

At the top of my list would also be Gary Kubiak and Jeremy Bates.

I'm hearing that Kyle Shanahan might join Mike Shanahan where ever he ends up coaching. Current rumor is that Mike would take over the HC position with the Redskins and Kyle would be the O.C.