Willie Parker quick on his feet handling the media, too

[LasVegasGuy]

Re: Willie Parker quick on his feet handling the media, too

Willie Parker has 4.3 Y/A over his career and was at 3.8 last year. So I don't see where this 'barely averages three yards per carry' is coming from.

Don' get me wrong, I agree that there is a reason he hasn't been extended. But it's not like he's been a disaster back there either. Fred Taylor is not the answer.

Do we have to travel down this road again? If you can honestly sit there and say to yourself FWP has a 4.3 Y/A over his career and 3.8 last year you obviously aren't watching the games.

He is all or nothing man. How many times does this guy do nothing for a half then explode a run for 25 to 30 yards which then balloons his avearge? Why don't you take away his longest run in each game last year and figure out his yard per carry after that? I am willing to guess it's 3 yards or less.

[phillyesq]

Re: Willie Parker quick on his feet handling the media, too

until Mendenhall shows us what he can do in a full season all the Parker is gone talk is just that.. talk. Parker has proven what he can do.. it may not be what you want but it is enough to rethink his departure... all the hype about Mendenhall is laughable when you look at his NFL film thus far....

if Mendenhall is fumble prone or gets injured again this year then what will the naysayers say?

I do think Mendenhall will be special (I want him to be) but to give him the keys to the car right now would be a terrible mistake. There is room for both to get touches and produce

Quoted for truth.

Pappy

Please, allow me to jump on this bandwagon as well. Great post, Feltdizz.

[LasVegasGuy]

Re: Willie Parker quick on his feet handling the media, too

until Mendenhall shows us what he can do in a full season all the Parker is gone talk is just that.. talk. Parker has proven what he can do.. it may not be what you want but it is enough to rethink his departure... all the hype about Mendenhall is laughable when you look at his NFL film thus far....

if Mendenhall is fumble prone or gets injured again this year then what will the naysayers say?

I do think Mendenhall will be special (I want him to be) but to give him the keys to the car right now would be a terrible mistake. There is room for both to get touches and produce

I'm not sold on Mendenhall either at this point. But while the Patriots were bringing in Fred Taylor we were content to stay with a guy that barely gets 3 yards a carry, is injury prone and his worthless on 3rd and 1 and 4th and 1 and 4th and goal.

His lack of vision and dancing around in the backfield is a primary reason we are constantly in 3rd and long situations. Which then leads to more sacks because Ben is holding onto the ball longer while our recievers have to run longer routes.

So who do you like on the Steelers?

The more I read from you Vegas the more I think you have a love hate with this team..

I would be easier to say who I am not sold on yet. Tomlin, Parker and Arians. You won't find another post of mine where I have a problem with anyone else.

[feltdizz]

Re: Willie Parker quick on his feet handling the media, too

Willie Parker has 4.3 Y/A over his career and was at 3.8 last year. So I don't see where this 'barely averages three yards per carry' is coming from.

Don' get me wrong, I agree that there is a reason he hasn't been extended. But it's not like he's been a disaster back there either. Fred Taylor is not the answer.

Do we have to travel down this road again? If you can honestly sit there and say to yourself FWP has a 4.3 Y/A over his career and 3.8 last year you obviously aren't watching the games.

He is all or nothing man. How many times does this guy do nothing for a half then explode a run for 25 to 30 yards which then balloons his avearge? Why don't you take away his longest run in each game last year and figure out his yard per carry after that? I am willing to guess it's 3 yards or less.

you are wrong Vegas.. this has been done on the Trib board and what they found out was his average was not greatly impacted in a negative way....

its an back a$$wards idea anyway...

why take away what he does best to show his true production?

It would be like taking away Ben's passing yards after contact because he was sacked 46 times.

[RuthlessBurgher]

Re: Willie Parker quick on his feet handling the media, too

Willie Parker has 4.3 Y/A over his career and was at 3.8 last year. So I don't see where this 'barely averages three yards per carry' is coming from.

Don' get me wrong, I agree that there is a reason he hasn't been extended. But it's not like he's been a disaster back there either. Fred Taylor is not the answer.

Do we have to travel down this road again? If you can honestly sit there and say to yourself FWP has a 4.3 Y/A over his career and 3.8 last year you obviously aren't watching the games.

He is all or nothing man. How many times does this guy do nothing for a half then explode a run for 25 to 30 yards which then balloons his avearge? Why don't you take away his longest run in each game last year and figure out his yard per carry after that? I am willing to guess it's 3 yards or less.

While we are taking away Willie's longest run each game to see what his rushing average would be without it, if you take away one TD per game from Ben, he would have only thrown 1 TD this past regular season, and if you took away one sack per game from Harrison, he would not have had any during this past regular season. This is the kind of ridiculousness that happens when you play the "if you take away the one big play per game" card. Just sayin'.

[feltdizz]

Re: Willie Parker quick on his feet handling the media, too

until Mendenhall shows us what he can do in a full season all the Parker is gone talk is just that.. talk. Parker has proven what he can do.. it may not be what you want but it is enough to rethink his departure... all the hype about Mendenhall is laughable when you look at his NFL film thus far....

if Mendenhall is fumble prone or gets injured again this year then what will the naysayers say?

I do think Mendenhall will be special (I want him to be) but to give him the keys to the car right now would be a terrible mistake. There is room for both to get touches and produce

Quoted for truth.

Pappy

Please, allow me to jump on this bandwagon as well. Great post, Feltdizz.

thanks.. it just seems like some fans want the vets to prove their worth every year while the rookies get a free pass because of their college highlights..

[RuthlessBurgher]

Re: Willie Parker quick on his feet handling the media, too

until Mendenhall shows us what he can do in a full season all the Parker is gone talk is just that.. talk. Parker has proven what he can do.. it may not be what you want but it is enough to rethink his departure... all the hype about Mendenhall is laughable when you look at his NFL film thus far....

if Mendenhall is fumble prone or gets injured again this year then what will the naysayers say?

I do think Mendenhall will be special (I want him to be) but to give him the keys to the car right now would be a terrible mistake. There is room for both to get touches and produce

I'm not sold on Mendenhall either at this point. But while the Patriots were bringing in Fred Taylor we were content to stay with a guy that barely gets 3 yards a carry, is injury prone and his worthless on 3rd and 1 and 4th and 1 and 4th and goal.

His lack of vision and dancing around in the backfield is a primary reason we are constantly in 3rd and long situations. Which then leads to more sacks because Ben is holding onto the ball longer while our recievers have to run longer routes.

So who do you like on the Steelers?

The more I read from you Vegas the more I think you have a love hate with this team..

I would be easier to say who I am not sold on yet. Tomlin, Parker and Arians. You won't find another post of mine where I have a problem with anyone else.

You say you are not sold on Mendenhall either in the post imbedded within this one. You also talk about extending and overpaying for these "sorry excuse for lineman" on the first page of this thread as well. It was real tough finding another post were you have a problem with anyone other than Tomlin, Parker and Arians, since there are multiple examples IN THIS VERY SAME THREAD!!! Wow.

[feltdizz]

Re: Willie Parker quick on his feet handling the media, too

until Mendenhall shows us what he can do in a full season all the Parker is gone talk is just that.. talk. Parker has proven what he can do.. it may not be what you want but it is enough to rethink his departure... all the hype about Mendenhall is laughable when you look at his NFL film thus far....

if Mendenhall is fumble prone or gets injured again this year then what will the naysayers say?

I do think Mendenhall will be special (I want him to be) but to give him the keys to the car right now would be a terrible mistake. There is room for both to get touches and produce

I'm not sold on Mendenhall either at this point. But while the Patriots were bringing in Fred Taylor we were content to stay with a guy that barely gets 3 yards a carry, is injury prone and his worthless on 3rd and 1 and 4th and 1 and 4th and goal.

His lack of vision and dancing around in the backfield is a primary reason we are constantly in 3rd and long situations. Which then leads to more sacks because Ben is holding onto the ball longer while our recievers have to run longer routes.

So who do you like on the Steelers?

The more I read from you Vegas the more I think you have a love hate with this team..

I would be easier to say who I am not sold on yet. Tomlin, Parker and Arians. You won't find another post of mine where I have a problem with anyone else.

I bet you were part of the "until Tomlin wins a SB" crowd....

I think it was you who kept talking about his first year playoff mistake on the 2 pt conversion... yet gave Ben a pass on his 3 INT first half...

Any coach who took over would have a damn good team since we are the Steelers...
put the hate down and enjoy the ride... or become a Arizona fan LOL!!! Since that is where the rest of our talent went.

I'm joking... with truth intertwined..

[feltdizz]

Re: Willie Parker quick on his feet handling the media, too

I would be easier to say who I am not sold on yet. Tomlin, Parker and Arians. You won't find another post of mine where I have a problem with anyone else.

You say you are not sold on Mendenhall either in the post imbedded within this one. You also talk about extending and overpaying for these "sorry excuse for lineman" on the first page of this thread as well. It was real tough finding another post were you have a problem with anyone other than Tomlin, Parker and Arians, since there are multiple examples IN THIS VERY SAME THREAD!!! Wow.

damn... that was easy.. LasVegas is indeed a but he is man enough to stick it out after a SB win..LOL!!

but I find it odd how anyone can be upset with so many people on such a telented team unless Tomlin proved him wrong and he is still mad about it. LOL!!!

[LasVegasGuy]

Re: Willie Parker quick on his feet handling the media, too

until Mendenhall shows us what he can do in a full season all the Parker is gone talk is just that.. talk. Parker has proven what he can do.. it may not be what you want but it is enough to rethink his departure... all the hype about Mendenhall is laughable when you look at his NFL film thus far....

if Mendenhall is fumble prone or gets injured again this year then what will the naysayers say?

I do think Mendenhall will be special (I want him to be) but to give him the keys to the car right now would be a terrible mistake. There is room for both to get touches and produce

I'm not sold on Mendenhall either at this point. But while the Patriots were bringing in Fred Taylor we were content to stay with a guy that barely gets 3 yards a carry, is injury prone and his worthless on 3rd and 1 and 4th and 1 and 4th and goal.

His lack of vision and dancing around in the backfield is a primary reason we are constantly in 3rd and long situations. Which then leads to more sacks because Ben is holding onto the ball longer while our recievers have to run longer routes.

So who do you like on the Steelers?

The more I read from you Vegas the more I think you have a love hate with this team..

I would be easier to say who I am not sold on yet. Tomlin, Parker and Arians. You won't find another post of mine where I have a problem with anyone else.

You say you are not sold on Mendenhall either in the post imbedded within this one. You also talk about extending and overpaying for these "sorry excuse for lineman" on the first page of this thread as well. It was real tough finding another post were you have a problem with anyone other than Tomlin, Parker and Arians, since there are multiple examples IN THIS VERY SAME THREAD!!! Wow.

I have no opinion on Mendenhall so I can't go either way with that guy. Sold, not sold who knows what kind of player he is? Did I ever bash him? No! As for the sorry excuse for the lineman that was in repsonse to D who was saying that is the reason FWP doesn't average more yards.

[feltdizz]

Re: Willie Parker quick on his feet handling the media, too

but do you admit this OL is sorry or is it only in pass protection?

whether it is or not we saw what happened to Mend in one on one with Ray Ray..
he also had the fumbles early...

I just don't understand how fans blast the OL then blast FWP when his production has been damn good. FWP is like Big Ben IMO... Ben takes a lot of sacks and looks for the big play.. and he produces..

FWP misses the whole or looks outside too much but he produces...

When you have to take away the long runs to get an average that suits your argument it really says something... it says the guy is capable of long runs.. LOL!!!

[LasVegasGuy]

Re: Willie Parker quick on his feet handling the media, too

until Mendenhall shows us what he can do in a full season all the Parker is gone talk is just that.. talk. Parker has proven what he can do.. it may not be what you want but it is enough to rethink his departure... all the hype about Mendenhall is laughable when you look at his NFL film thus far....

if Mendenhall is fumble prone or gets injured again this year then what will the naysayers say?

I do think Mendenhall will be special (I want him to be) but to give him the keys to the car right now would be a terrible mistake. There is room for both to get touches and produce

I'm not sold on Mendenhall either at this point. But while the Patriots were bringing in Fred Taylor we were content to stay with a guy that barely gets 3 yards a carry, is injury prone and his worthless on 3rd and 1 and 4th and 1 and 4th and goal.

His lack of vision and dancing around in the backfield is a primary reason we are constantly in 3rd and long situations. Which then leads to more sacks because Ben is holding onto the ball longer while our recievers have to run longer routes.

So who do you like on the Steelers?

The more I read from you Vegas the more I think you have a love hate with this team..

I would be easier to say who I am not sold on yet. Tomlin, Parker and Arians. You won't find another post of mine where I have a problem with anyone else.

I bet you were part of the "until Tomlin wins a SB" crowd....

I think it was you who kept talking about his first year playoff mistake on the 2 pt conversion... yet gave Ben a pass on his 3 INT first half...

Any coach who took over would have a damn good team since we are the Steelers...
put the hate down and enjoy the ride... or become a Arizona fan LOL!!! Since that is where the rest of our talent went.

I'm joking... with truth intertwined..

Like I have said in the past. Switzer has a Super Bowl ring after a year, Callahan took the Raiders to the Super Bowl after a year, Gruden went to Tampa and took Dungy's team to a Super Bowl after one year. Martz took the Vermeil's team to the Super Bowl.

What makes you guys not believe that Tomlin could fall into this same category of guys that took over well established teams and reached the top in a short amount of time before completely falling on their face. I am not saying it is going to happen here but there is past history saying it could. However, if you read the posts on here we are already making a bust of Tomlin and placing him in the hall. Good Grief!

[feltdizz]

Re: Willie Parker quick on his feet handling the media, too

Like I have said in the past. Switzer has a Super Bowl ring after a year, Callahan took the Raiders to the Super Bowl after a year, Gruden went to Tampa and took Dungy's team to a Super Bowl after one year. Martz took the Vermeil's team to the Super Bowl.

What makes you guys not believe that Tomlin could fall into this same category of guys that took over well established teams and reached the top in a short amount of time before completely falling on their face. I am not saying it is going to happen here but there is past history saying it could. However, if you read the posts on here we are already making a bust of Tomlin and placing him in the hall. Good Grief!

because it hasn't happened yet... what makes you so sure Tomlin will fall off?

I think the reason people laugh at you is because we locked up our core players to extensions.. it's not like Ben is on his way out or FWP is our rock at RB...

you have to look at the make up of the teams you mentioned 2 years after they went to the SB.. they were totally different teams...

and Dungy had Peyton who is the biggest choker in the game in the playoffs IMO.

[LasVegasGuy]

Re: Willie Parker quick on his feet handling the media, too

but do you admit this OL is sorry or is it only in pass protection?

whether it is or not we saw what happened to Mend in one on one with Ray Ray..
he also had the fumbles early...

I just don't understand how fans blast the OL then blast FWP when his production has been damn good. FWP is like Big Ben IMO... Ben takes a lot of sacks and looks for the big play.. and he produces..

FWP misses the whole or looks outside too much but he produces...

When you have to take away the long runs to get an average that suits your argument it really says something... it says the guy is capable of long runs.. LOL!!!

I'm just trying to say that you sometimes have to look past the numbers. We all have seen FWP do nothing for quarters then bust off a meaningless run to pad his stats. The same holds true for teams like the Patriots that are always in the Top 10 in defense. Is the defense that good or is it the offense which is padding the defensive stats because they force teams to play catch up and make the other teams offense one dimensional?


Remember when Tomlin was in Minnesota and the team ranked number 1 against the run and something like 25 against the pass? Why would teams run when they know they can pass with ease. So once again a situation where you look past the number for what is truly there.

[LasVegasGuy]

Re: Willie Parker quick on his feet handling the media, too

Like I have said in the past. Switzer has a Super Bowl ring after a year, Callahan took the Raiders to the Super Bowl after a year, Gruden went to Tampa and took Dungy's team to a Super Bowl after one year. Martz took the Vermeil's team to the Super Bowl.

What makes you guys not believe that Tomlin could fall into this same category of guys that took over well established teams and reached the top in a short amount of time before completely falling on their face. I am not saying it is going to happen here but there is past history saying it could. However, if you read the posts on here we are already making a bust of Tomlin and placing him in the hall. Good Grief!

because it hasn't happened yet... what makes you so sure Tomlin will fall off?

I think the reason people laugh at you is because we locked up our core players to extensions.. it's not like Ben is on his way out or FWP is our rock at RB...

you have to look at the make up of the teams you mentioned 2 years after they went to the SB.. they were totally different teams...

and Dungy had Peyton who is the biggest choker in the game in the playoffs IMO.

Honestly, I don't know if Tomlin is going to end up like these guys. I am just one guy on here not ready to say we have found our coach for the next 20 years.