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  • steelers43
    Backup
    • Apr 2009
    • 245

    #31
    Re: Sides far apart on Starks' deal

    Originally posted by BradshawsHairdresser
    Originally posted by steelers43
    They wanted Unger only if they couldn't get Loadholt. I would have loved Loadholt. Beatty is years away.
    It be nice to get Loadholt -- as a right tackle. I don't think he would be a good fit on the left side. Beatty has a lot of upside. He might be "years away," but for all I know, so might Hills and Capizzi.
    IF Beatty gets there at all.

    Max on the left and Loadholt on the right would be great if you ask me.

    Max - Kemo - Shipley - Colon - Loadholt would have been a nice future line.
    1. Ziggy Hood DT/DE
    2. William Moore S
    3. Antoine Caldwell C/G
    4. Donald Washington CB
    5. Sammie Lee Hill DT/DE
    5. Terrance Taylor DT
    6. Lydon Murtha OT
    7. Frank Summers RB
    7. Tiquan Underwood WR

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    • RuthlessBurgher
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 33208

      #32
      Re: Sides far apart on Starks' deal

      Originally posted by steelers43
      Originally posted by BradshawsHairdresser
      Originally posted by steelers43
      They wanted Unger only if they couldn't get Loadholt. I would have loved Loadholt. Beatty is years away.
      It be nice to get Loadholt -- as a right tackle. I don't think he would be a good fit on the left side. Beatty has a lot of upside. He might be "years away," but for all I know, so might Hills and Capizzi.
      IF Beatty gets there at all.

      Max on the left and Loadholt on the right would be great if you ask me.

      Max - Kemo - Shipley - Colon - Loadholt would have been a nice future line.
      I would have been okay with getting Loadholt in the 2nd as a RT prospect, but that doesn't impact the discussion here from those who are saying that we should have done something in one of the past 3 drafts to replace Max. Since Loadholt is a RT but not a LT prospect, drafting him wouldn't have impacted our situation with Starks in the least. He would have only competed with Colon.
      Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

      Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

      We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

      We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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      • SidSmythe
        Hall of Famer
        • Sep 2008
        • 4708

        #33
        Re: Sides far apart on Starks' deal

        This moving Colon to guard talk is getting as old as the Steelers going to the 4-3
        Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...
        Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...
        Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go...!!!

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        • steelers43
          Backup
          • Apr 2009
          • 245

          #34
          Re: Sides far apart on Starks' deal

          Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
          Originally posted by steelers43
          Originally posted by BradshawsHairdresser
          Originally posted by steelers43
          They wanted Unger only if they couldn't get Loadholt. I would have loved Loadholt. Beatty is years away.
          It be nice to get Loadholt -- as a right tackle. I don't think he would be a good fit on the left side. Beatty has a lot of upside. He might be "years away," but for all I know, so might Hills and Capizzi.
          IF Beatty gets there at all.

          Max on the left and Loadholt on the right would be great if you ask me.

          Max - Kemo - Shipley - Colon - Loadholt would have been a nice future line.
          I would have been okay with getting Loadholt in the 2nd as a RT prospect, but that doesn't impact the discussion here from those who are saying that we should have done something in one of the past 3 drafts to replace Max. Since Loadholt is a RT but not a LT prospect, drafting him wouldn't have impacted our situation with Starks in the least. He would have only competed with Colon.
          Everyone keeps saying do something else but besides Collins, all I get is that we COULD have moved up. Nobody knows if we could or not and Collins is NOT better than Max.

          All I keep hearing is we made mistakes. What mistakes? Seems like a bit of empty cases of complaints outside of reality to me.
          1. Ziggy Hood DT/DE
          2. William Moore S
          3. Antoine Caldwell C/G
          4. Donald Washington CB
          5. Sammie Lee Hill DT/DE
          5. Terrance Taylor DT
          6. Lydon Murtha OT
          7. Frank Summers RB
          7. Tiquan Underwood WR

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          • steelers43
            Backup
            • Apr 2009
            • 245

            #35
            Re: Sides far apart on Starks' deal

            Originally posted by SidSmythe
            This moving Colon to guard talk is getting as old as the Steelers going to the 4-3
            Until we get someone better, I agree. Colon was originally thought of as a guard canidate.
            1. Ziggy Hood DT/DE
            2. William Moore S
            3. Antoine Caldwell C/G
            4. Donald Washington CB
            5. Sammie Lee Hill DT/DE
            5. Terrance Taylor DT
            6. Lydon Murtha OT
            7. Frank Summers RB
            7. Tiquan Underwood WR

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            • stlrz d
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 9244

              #36
              Re: Sides far apart on Starks' deal

              Originally posted by SidSmythe
              This moving Colon to guard talk is getting as old as the Steelers going to the 4-3
              Especially after this:

              BTSC: We've heard many say that Colon is really a guard playing tackle. What is your take on that?

              WOLFLEY: Colon is not a guard, he just looks like he should be one. He doesn't have the tools to play guard in this league.
              [url="http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2009/4/2/817159/btsc-chats-with-steelers-analyst"]http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/20 ... rs-analyst[/url]

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              • fezziwig
                Hall of Famer
                • Jan 2009
                • 3515

                #37
                Re: Sides far apart on Starks' deal

                Originally posted by frankthetank1
                man i kinda hate max starks. what a little beyotch. "i thought i was a priority" please. when he starts making the pro bowl on a regular basis and dominates like harrison then he can complain. he happens to play a position that is hard to find talent at and the steelers have no other real options. they have been more than generous to him. it seems to me he is a pretty selfish guy.

                I have to agree about getting that kind of coin and not even a wiff of pro bowl caliber. He always seemed slow and clumsy to me and I don't recall him getting out infront for any run blocking or sweeps too often.
                I guess we don't run sweeps anymore but still the same, that is a lot of cabbage for a guy that only won out against an injured Marvel Smith.

                I don't fault Max for wanting the most for himself, it just seems like too much money for a guy that isn't the tops when, we have real super stars that some of that money could go to.

                Just goes to show how little of quality tackles are out there in the NFL.

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                • RuthlessBurgher
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 33208

                  #38
                  Re: Sides far apart on Starks' deal

                  I was just emptying SPAM out of my e-mail account, and I had a horrifying experience.

                  It was an advertisement for "Trial Colon Cleanse Sample."

                  In the "From" column, though, was the following name:

                  MAX COLON!!!



                  That really freaked me out, man. Seriously. *shudder*

                  If I get an e-mail tomorrow from Willie Starks, I am sleeping with my eyes open from now on.
                  Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                  Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                  We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                  We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                  • Mel Blount's G
                    Pro Bowler
                    • May 2008
                    • 1056

                    #39
                    Re: Sides far apart on Starks' deal

                    How 'bout "Max Mahan" for some sleepless nights ruth?
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                    • RuthlessBurgher
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 33208

                      #40
                      Re: Sides far apart on Starks' deal

                      Originally posted by Mel Blount's G
                      How 'bout "Max Mahan" for some sleepless nights ruth?
                      Great...now I'm never going to sleep. Thanks a bunch.
                      Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                      Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                      We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                      We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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