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  • fordfixer
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 10922

    Sides far apart on Starks' deal

    Harris: Sides far apart on Starks' deal

    By John Harris, TRIBUNE-REVIEW
    Saturday, May 23, 2009

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    Max Starks isn't seeking sympathy, because he knows he isn't worthy. Not with gas prices rising along with unemployment, and foreclosures becoming an American staple.

    Starks will earn $8.4 million next season to play left tackle as the Steelers' franchise player.

    Coupled with last year's $6.9 million salary as the team's transition player, Starks will earn a mind-boggling $15.3 million over two years.

    Given that the Steelers rarely throw around money like drunken sailors on leave, Starks must be a pretty valuable commodity. And while $15.3 million should be more than enough for Starks to live on for the rest of his life, he is a professional football player in the prime of his career, playing a game where multi-million dollar contracts are the norm.

    Starks is merely playing by the rules.

    "It's about contracts or guaranteed money,'' Starks said.

    The Steelers decided to pay Starks like a Pro Bowl left tackle, effectively knocking their salary cap out of whack.

    But even after spending so much money on a player who didn't open the 2008 season in the starting lineup, Starks' future with the Steelers remains uncertain.

    The Steelers designated Starks as their franchise player with the purpose of signing him to a long-term deal. Starks, however, said the sides are far apart. Per team policy, the Steelers don't comment on player negotiations.

    "It appears to be at a standstill," Starks said. "I thought I was a priority before. Then, they did James Harrison's deal when he had one year left. So apparently, I'm a lower man on the totem pole than I thought."

    Starks isn't blameless. The Steelers will make him one of the NFL's highest-paid linemen this season. Starks could give the Steelers a "hometown'' discount and accept a multi-year contract averaging less than the $8.45 salary he will receive as a franchise player. But business, after all, is business.

    "For me, it's more about the security aspect," said Starks, 27. "A lot of guys want to be somewhere securely more than paid very well for a finite amount of time. I've signed one-year deals for the last three years and haven't been offered a multi-year deal yet. You wonder: You like me enough not to lose me. Do you like me enough to keep me long term?"

    Will Starks remain with the Steelers beyond 2009? Based on the apparent stalemate in negotiations, that doesn't seem likely.

    "They don't (negotiate) during the season," Starks said. "Time is of the essence to get it done before the season.

    "It's not all about money."

    Truth be told, it's always about the money. It just so happens the Steelers are offering less than Starks will accept.

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  • frankthetank1
    Hall of Famer
    • May 2008
    • 2755

    #2
    Re: Sides far apart on Starks' deal

    man i kinda hate max starks. what a little beyotch. "i thought i was a priority" please. when he starts making the pro bowl on a regular basis and dominates like harrison then he can complain. he happens to play a position that is hard to find talent at and the steelers have no other real options. they have been more than generous to him. it seems to me he is a pretty selfish guy.

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    • ramblinjim
      Pro Bowler
      • Jun 2008
      • 1278

      #3
      Re: Sides far apart on Starks' deal

      I don't blame Max for wanting his money. sure. It's a business and he has to look out for himself.

      But here's hoping that Tony Hills or someone plays awfully well this year in spot duty and is ready to take over next year. Let Max go play somewhere with turf like St. Louis and see how he plays on a really fast field. I think I'd take Deebo in that matchup.
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      • Oviedo
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 23824

        #4
        Re: Sides far apart on Starks' deal

        You reach a point where it isn't about the rules, contracts, etc. and it becomes about greed. How many millions is enough for Max and his children and their children not to have a financial worry in the world.

        The Steelers have already financially set Max up with enough for three lifetimes.
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        • phillyesq
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 7568

          #5
          Re: Sides far apart on Starks' deal

          Originally posted by frankthetank1
          man i kinda hate max starks. what a little beyotch. "i thought i was a priority" please. when he starts making the pro bowl on a regular basis and dominates like harrison then he can complain. he happens to play a position that is hard to find talent at and the steelers have no other real options. they have been more than generous to him. it seems to me he is a pretty selfish guy.
          I agree -- that comment really irritated me as well.

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          • steelz09
            Administrator
            • Jan 2008
            • 4675

            #6
            Re: Sides far apart on Starks' deal

            Man, I hate Starks' attitude sometimes. He's getting overpaid and he's crying about it.

            That past two years, he's been getting paid Pro Bowl LT money and he's not even close to that. Harrison has proven his worth, Starks hasn't. Yes, he earned it by losing his RT job to Williie Colon (!!) and wouldn't have started at LT if it wasn't for Marvel's injuries.

            I would love to see Hills step up and take Starks' job. That way we can get this greedy, slow footed LT off our team and use the money on the likes of Holmes, Miller, etc. Players that have proven their worth by solid play.

            If it weren't for the lack of depth, he would be already off the team. If he isn't resigned before the season, thats a good sign for Hills. He'll be our starter in 2010.
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            • RuthlessBurgher
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 33208

              #7
              Re: Sides far apart on Starks' deal

              Memo to Max: The team has watched James Harrison abuse you in head-to-head matchups in practice for the past several seasons. Did you wonder why he was a higher priority to re-sign when he was running right past you to the quarterback?
              Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

              Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

              We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

              We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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              • pittpete
                Legend
                • Aug 2008
                • 6825

                #8
                Re: Sides far apart on Starks' deal

                Some of these posts make me laugh.
                Put yourselves in a professional athletes shoes and tell me you wouldnt want to be paid the maximum amount of $$$.
                Its a business,plain and simple.
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                • RuthlessBurgher
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 33208

                  #9
                  Re: Sides far apart on Starks' deal

                  Originally posted by pittpete
                  Some of these posts make me laugh.
                  Put yourselves in a professional athletes shoes and tell me you wouldnt want to be paid the maximum amount of $$$.
                  Its a business,plain and simple.
                  Yeah...he wants money. Sure, I can understand that. But the fact that he was puzzled by the fact that the team considered James Harrison to be a higher priority? Are you kidding me? The defending NFL defensive player of the year? The team MVP the last two seasons in a row? The guy who made the defensive play of the decade (or more) in the Super Bowl? That guy?

                  He said that he was surprised that they gave Harrison the deal before him because Harrison still had a year to go on his contract. Well, news flash, Max...when they team puts the franchise tag on you, you also have one year to go on your contract, so you are on equal footing.
                  Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                  Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                  We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                  We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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                  • birtikidis
                    Hall of Famer
                    • May 2008
                    • 4628

                    #10
                    Re: Sides far apart on Starks' deal

                    Max should have been surprised that they'd be willing to pay him 8 mill+ per season. I hope we can figure out a cap friendly deal with him...

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                    • buckeyehoppy
                      Pro Bowler
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 1625

                      #11
                      Re: Sides far apart on Starks' deal

                      This is part of the reason why I have been clamoring for the Steelers to draft a LT to groom so that we wouldn't be in this situation. That never happened. Now, it's too late to draft Max's replacement. That's too bad. It pretty much means that the trio of Hills, Capizzi and Foster will HAVE TO be legit and that Colon will have to show A LOT more than he has in the past.

                      All of you pretty much know that I have no love lost for this petulant child in a very large man's body. Max has NEVER held a starting job with this team unless he was the beneficiary of an injury to an actual starter. Hell. He couldn't even beat out Willie Colon, and Willie will never be mistaken for being Pro Bowl caliber.

                      Yet, he is the #2 ranked player on the Steelers for salary last season and the season upcoming. He paid like a Pro Bowler and plays like a Toilet Bowler...and he has the nerve to say he's being dissed because Harrison's contract got done first.

                      The memo to Starks is a simple one. Max:

                      1) you won't be back if you aren't signed by the start of camp.
                      2) you'll need to have a career year and you'll need to be named to the Pro Bowl to even sniff the type of $$$ you have made the last two seasons.
                      3) you shouldn't ever be p'ed.o. by being served after a player who has put in the work, who has done the job and has the accomplishments (D POTY, two-time Pro Bowler, etc.). When your accomplishments match that, you may talk...

                      ...until then, Max, you are a and you need to STFU!!!
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                      • steeler_fan_in_t.o.
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 10281

                        #12
                        Re: Sides far apart on Starks' deal

                        Originally posted by fordfixer
                        "I thought I was a priority before. Then, they did James Harrison's deal when he had one year left. So apparently, I'm a lower man on the totem pole than I thought."
                        Starks has always handled himself professionally during his career here. This statement seems out of character for him. He has never made any comment that is even slightly controversial or self serving like this.

                        I hope that the quote is inaccurate, or at the very least that we never hear anything like this out of him again.
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                        • Crash
                          Legend
                          • Apr 2009
                          • 5008

                          #13
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                          What an ungrateful clown Starks is. Just remember Maxine, you've been pretty much worthless when the weather has been good. You don't get to take Heinz Field's ****ty surface with you.

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                          • BradshawsHairdresser
                            Legend
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 7056

                            #14
                            Re: Sides far apart on Starks' deal

                            Originally posted by Crash
                            What an ungrateful clown Starks is. Just remember Maxine, you've been pretty much worthless when the weather has been good. You don't get to take Heinz Field's ****ty surface with you.
                            Max has been grossly overpaid these past two seasons.

                            I don't look for him to work out a long-term deal with the Steelers, and I think it will likely be best for the Steelers if he doesn't.

                            I do wish Colbert and Co. would have done more to address the LT position in the draft these past three years.

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                            • RuthlessBurgher
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 33208

                              #15
                              Re: Sides far apart on Starks' deal

                              Originally posted by BradshawsHairdresser
                              Originally posted by Crash
                              What an ungrateful clown Starks is. Just remember Maxine, you've been pretty much worthless when the weather has been good. You don't get to take Heinz Field's ****ty surface with you.
                              Max has been grossly overpaid these past two seasons.

                              I don't look for him to work out a long-term deal with the Steelers, and I think it will likely be best for the Steelers if he doesn't.

                              I do wish Colbert and Co. would have done more to address the LT position in the draft these past three years.
                              Just curious as to what you think they should have done to address LT in these past 3 drafts.

                              Should they have drafted Joe Staley (taken at #28 in 2007 by San Francisco) instead of Timmons at #15?

                              Should they have drafted Duane Brown (taken at #26 in 2008 by Houston) instead of Mendenhall at #23?

                              Should they have drafted Eben Britton (taken at #39 in 2009 by Jacksonville) instead of Hood at #32?

                              By the way, I am on record as saying that I would have drafted Anthony Collins in round 3 in 2008 over Bruce Davis (I loved the Mendenhall and Sweed picks and wouldn't change those). I also stated that in this most recent draft, once Michael Oher fell down into the twenties, I would have done whatever was necessary to trade up for him.
                              Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

                              Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

                              We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

                              We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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