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  • RuthlessBurgher
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 33208

    #46
    Re: One opinion of the odds on who the Steelers take.

    Originally posted by Steel Life
    If Harvin's there at 32...they should see if anybody's interested & see if we can get their pick in the second & an additional 3rd or 4th (or maybe work with Indy for their 2nd & Pierre Garcon,WR). Either way, I'd like to have the flexibility to make sure we can get Gilbert in the 2nd.
    With the proposed Indy trade, are you suggesting that we move from the 32nd pick overall to the 61st pick overall and only getting WR Pierre Garcon in return? A late first round pick has the value of 2 late second round picks. Are you attributing late second round value to '08 sixth round pick Pierre Garcon? Yikes.
    Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

    Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

    We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

    We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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    • steelers43
      Backup
      • Apr 2009
      • 245

      #47
      Re: One opinion of the odds on who the Steelers take.

      I look at it as a benefit vs. downside factor.

      His upside is a huge benefit, one that you rarely get with the 32nd pick. Imagine adding Reggie Bush to our offense.

      That far outweighs any type of "attitude" issue that may exist.

      After all, we just gave $48 million to a guy who hit a woman. Good thing he doesn't have an "attitude."
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      • Steel Life
        Pro Bowler
        • May 2008
        • 1535

        #48
        Re: One opinion of the odds on who the Steelers take.

        I don't know guys...players like Harvin & Davis are enticing talents, but from their comments it seems as though Tomlin & Colbert are clear on the type of player that they want & those two don't fit. If we've seen anything from Tomlin in his short time here, it's that he doesn't "babysit" players (i.e. Santonio, Willie, Hampton, Smith) & I don't see him being willing to do so here. So get used to the idea of a guy like Mack or someone like that wearing the Black & Gold.
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        • steelers43
          Backup
          • Apr 2009
          • 245

          #49
          Re: One opinion of the odds on who the Steelers take.

          Originally posted by Steel Life
          I don't know guys...players like Harvin & Davis are enticing talents, but from their comments it seems as though Tomlin & Colbert are clear on the type of player that they want & those two don't fit. If we've seen anything from Tomlin in his short time here, it's that he doesn't "babysit" players (i.e. Santonio, Willie, Hampton, Smith) & I don't see him being willing to do so here. So get used to the idea of a guy like Mack or someone like that wearing the Black & Gold.
          What is SO bad about a kid who has been treated like royalty because he can run having an attitude?

          He'll get a quick attitude adjustment when Troy lays him out in practice and he'll realize his skills are rare but not so rare any longer.
          1. Ziggy Hood DT/DE
          2. William Moore S
          3. Antoine Caldwell C/G
          4. Donald Washington CB
          5. Sammie Lee Hill DT/DE
          5. Terrance Taylor DT
          6. Lydon Murtha OT
          7. Frank Summers RB
          7. Tiquan Underwood WR

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          • RuthlessBurgher
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 33208

            #50
            Re: One opinion of the odds on who the Steelers take.

            Originally posted by steelers43
            Originally posted by Steel Life
            I don't know guys...players like Harvin & Davis are enticing talents, but from their comments it seems as though Tomlin & Colbert are clear on the type of player that they want & those two don't fit. If we've seen anything from Tomlin in his short time here, it's that he doesn't "babysit" players (i.e. Santonio, Willie, Hampton, Smith) & I don't see him being willing to do so here. So get used to the idea of a guy like Mack or someone like that wearing the Black & Gold.
            What is SO bad about a kid who has been treated like royalty because he can run having an attitude?

            He'll get a quick attitude adjustment when Troy lays him out in practice and he'll realize his skills are rare but not so rare any longer.
            Troy wouldn't do that in practice...and Anthony Smith is no longer on the team.
            Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

            Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

            We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

            We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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            • SteelCzar76
              Starter
              • Mar 2009
              • 655

              #51
              Re: One opinion of the odds on who the Steelers take.

              Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
              Originally posted by steelers43
              Originally posted by Steel Life
              I don't know guys...players like Harvin & Davis are enticing talents, but from their comments it seems as though Tomlin & Colbert are clear on the type of player that they want & those two don't fit. If we've seen anything from Tomlin in his short time here, it's that he doesn't "babysit" players (i.e. Santonio, Willie, Hampton, Smith) & I don't see him being willing to do so here. So get used to the idea of a guy like Mack or someone like that wearing the Black & Gold.
              What is SO bad about a kid who has been treated like royalty because he can run having an attitude?

              He'll get a quick attitude adjustment when Troy lays him out in practice and he'll realize his skills are rare but not so rare any longer.
              Troy wouldn't do that in practice...and Anthony Smith is no longer on the team.
              I think that what he's trying to say is that, due to the amount of tough, proven, character/class professionals that we have on the team,....supposed "primadonna" behavior would not fly.

              Not only because the players and Coaching staff won't allow it...but also because in effect,... players whom become Steelers (for the most part) desire and or come to desire to live up to the tradition that comes with being a member of this organization.

              The Steeler legacy is a tremendous one,....and at the end of the day,..what would a truly great football player desire more than performing at a high level upon an exceptional team ? The money is a given,....but greatness however,...the kind that makes a man immortal,..is far more difficult to attain.
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