Rats fans upset because Woodson says Flacco is tradable

[feltdizz]

Re: Rats fans upset because Woodson says Flacco is tradable

why even entertain this czar idiot? He is a troll...

I can't take anyone serious when they say they would trade Ben for Rivers..

Czar said he would toss a 2 SB ring winning QB with 19 4th qtr wins and the most wins EVER by a QB in 5 years....

for Rivers or Brees? because they have stats? GTFOH...

next!

[feltdizz]

Re: Rats fans upset because Woodson says Flacco is tradable

Wow. Just wow....

dude just wants attention... next he will say he would fire Tomlin for Schottenheimer...

but I will say Woodsen saying Flacco is tradeable is just as dumb...
people will do anything to get attention right now..

[papillon]

Re: Rats fans upset because Woodson says Flacco is tradable

why even entertain this czar idiot? He is a troll...

I can't take anyone serious when they say they would trade Ben for Rivers..

Czar said he would toss a 2 SB ring winning QB with 19 4th qtr wins and the most wins EVER by a QB in 5 years....

for Rivers or Brees? because they have stats? GTFOH...

next!

Just trying to establish the parameters for an elite quarterback. It's the off season and we have to talk about something.

Pappy

[feltdizz]

Re: Rats fans upset because Woodson says Flacco is tradable

why even entertain this czar idiot? He is a troll...

I can't take anyone serious when they say they would trade Ben for Rivers..

Czar said he would toss a 2 SB ring winning QB with 19 4th qtr wins and the most wins EVER by a QB in 5 years....

for Rivers or Brees? because they have stats? GTFOH...

next!

Just trying to establish the parameters for an elite quarterback. It's the off season and we have to talk about something.

I hear you Pap... funny thing is during the season a few friends who hate Ben would always text me when we fell behind in the 4th quarter..

I swear I must have text "here we go.." on our last drive about 6 times this year...
and they never replied after the game was over.

Pappy

[Chadman]

Re: Rats fans upset because Woodson says Flacco is tradable

[img]But%20in%20my%20opinion%20there%20are%204%20qb's%2 0that%20are%20elite.%20Brady,%20Manning,%20Rivers, %20Brees.%20(With%20Matt%20Ryan%20hard%20on%20thei r%20heals.)[/img]

Curious- why wouldn't Donovan McNabb & Kurt Warner rank as elite?

[SteelCzar76]

Re: Rats fans upset because Woodson says Flacco is tradable

why even entertain this czar idiot? He is a troll...

I can't take anyone serious when they say they would trade Ben for Rivers..

Czar said he would toss a 2 SB ring winning QB with 19 4th qtr wins and the most wins EVER by a QB in 5 years....

for Rivers or Brees? because they have stats? GTFOH...

next!

So,..because i do not share your particular brand of "Hero Worship",....i am and idiot or Troll ? Did i touch a nerve ? You'll have to do better Felton,.....

[SteelCzar76]

Re: Rats fans upset because Woodson says Flacco is tradable

So, the 9 pro bowlers he (Rivers) played with a couple years ago weren't enough, but Hines (not a pro bowler this year), Heath (not a pro bowler this year) and Santonio (not a pro bowler this year) would make Rivers unstoppable? What about the other QBs you listed? Would you trade Ben right now for them?

Pappy

Brady and Manning,...yes.

[SteelCzar76]

Re: Rats fans upset because Woodson says Flacco is tradable

[img]But%20in%20my%20opinion%20there%20are%204%20qb's%2 0that%20are%20elite.%20Brady,%20Manning,%20Rivers, %20Brees.%20(With%20Matt%20Ryan%20hard%20on%20thei r%20heals.)[/img]

Curious- why wouldn't Donovan McNabb & Kurt Warner rank as elite?

One word Chad,.....Inconsistent.

[Chadman]

Re: Rats fans upset because Woodson says Flacco is tradable

[img]But%20in%20my%20opinion%20there%20are%204%20qb's%2 0that%20are%20elite.%20Brady,%20Manning,%20Rivers, %20Brees.%20(With%20Matt%20Ryan%20hard%20on%20thei r%20heals.)[/img]

Curious- why wouldn't Donovan McNabb & Kurt Warner rank as elite?

One word Chad,.....Inconsistent.

A bit harsh saying McNabb isn't consistant- isn't it? When you consider you have Brees as elite-

2001-
McNabb Passer rating = 84.3 25TD 12INT PLAYOFFS
Brees Passer Rating = 94.8 1TD 0INT NO PLAYOFFS

2002-
McNabb Passer Rating = 86.0 17TD 6INT PLAYOFFS
Brees Passer Rating = 76.9 17TD 16INT NO PLAYOFFS

2003-
McNabb Passer Rating = 79.6 16TD 11INT PLAYOFFS
Brees Passer Rating = 67.5 11TD 15INT NO PLAYOFFS

2004-
McNabb Passer Rating = 104.7 31TD 8INT PLAYOFFS
Brees Passer Rating = 104.8 27TD 7INT PLAYOFFS

2005-
McNabb Passer Rating = 85.0 16TD 9INT NO PLAYOFFS
Brees Passer Rating = 89.2 24TD 15INT NO PLAYOFFS

2006-
McNabb Passer Rating = 95.5 18TD 6INT PLAYOFFS
Brees Passer Rating = 96.2 26TD 11INT PLAYOFFS

2007-
McNabb Passer Rating = 89.9 19TD 7INT NO PLAYOFFS
Brees Pass Rating = 89.4 28TD 18INT NO PLAYOFFS

2008-
McNabb Passer Rating = 86.4 23TD 11INT PLAYOFFS
Brees Passer Rating = 96.2 34TD 17INT NO PLAYOFFS

Surely, looking at that, McNabb is AT LEAST as consistant as Brees- while getting his team further into the post season than Brees?

[Scarletfire1970]

Re: Rats fans upset because Woodson says Flacco is tradable

Yes i would PAP. Philip with Hines, Heath, Tone and a defense coached by D@ck Lebeau anywhere within the top five,.. would not only be something that no team in the league could overcome,...but it would be hard for them to even compete against.

[/quote]

Rivers behind this line would suck.

Did you ever post on the Trib board? I swear you sound like teecee and a few others there.

Simply unbelievable. If Ben can't win you over after that last SB performance, he never will. Have a nice 10 plus years wishing the Steelers would have drafted another QB while the rest of us enjoy watching a legend in the making.

[ramblinjim]

Re: Rats fans upset because Woodson says Flacco is tradable

I think at this point in his career, anyone that says Ben isn't elite isn't worth arguing with. So I'm not going to bother.

On the subject at hand, I would LOVE for the Ravens to trade Flacco because it looks like he is going to be a d@mn good quarterback in this league and we're going to have to compete against him. So Ravens, please trade Joe Flacco to an NFC team that we won't play often.

[WoodleyofTroy]

Re: Rats fans upset because Woodson says Flacco is tradable

Rivers behind this line would suck.

Did you ever post on the Trib board? I swear you sound like teecee and a few others there.

Simply unbelievable. If Ben can't win you over after that last SB performance, he never will. Have a nice 10 plus years wishing the Steelers would have drafted another QB while the rest of us enjoy watching a legend in the making.

He posted on the trib board as the same name he has now. Czarsalad.

[pfelix73]

Re: Rats fans upset because Woodson says Flacco is tradable

McNabb IS consistent. Afterall, after each year goes by, he still doesn't have a Lombardi Trophy. Now that's consistent.

[Northern_Blitz]

Re: Rats fans upset because Woodson says Flacco is tradable

http://talk.baltimoresun.com/showthread.php?t=190817

Good stuff...some of them even go so far as to say it's because Woodson is racist.

I also laugh at the "pre-determined" stuff. Woodson and Wilcots agreed on some of them so that blows their "pre-determined just to get viewers" theories.

I agree with Rod. Especially when you evaluate the fact that anyone is expendable based upon production or lack thereof in terms of their specific position.(ie: how well do you do your specific job in comparison to your peers. (as opposed to just simply being part of an exceptional overall Team/organization) This should be no different for QB's.

Though this is "fliud" because Flacco is merely a rookie and can yet evolve into an elite class at his position. But in my opinion there are 4 qb's that are elite. Brady, Manning, Rivers, Brees. (With Matt Ryan hard on their heals.)

Let me see if I have this correct. Brady, Manning, Rivers, Brees and possibly Ryan are elite quarterbacks in the NFL and Ben is not. Okay, so, you're Kevin Colbert and San Diego, New Orleans, Indy, New England and Atlanta come knocking on your door and offer you their quarterback for your 2 time super bowl winning quarterback and you pull the trigger. Is that correct? I'm just trying to determine the parameters here for elite.

Pappy

As i would have in 2004,.....i would take Rivers.

So what you're really saying is that your position on Ben is really just trying to justify your position in 2004.

It's not that you were wrong then when you thought Rivers was better than Ben. It's just that Rivers is is a harder situation and Ben's a product of the system. I mean, Ben has the best RB and 2nd best TE in the league, not to mention an offensive guru for a head coach...oh, wait, that's not Ben.

[SteelBucks]

Re: Rats fans upset because Woodson says Flacco is tradable

As things stand now the latter is not the case. He's a good kid with potential,..but he has a poor work ethic and i'm not sure that he really has a high football IQ.These things prevent him from being the Qb that his fans would like for the world to believe that he currently is in my opinion.