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  • feltdizz
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    • May 2008
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    #46
    Re: Steelers franchise Starks

    Originally posted by jhansle1

    Not to high jack the thread but I disagree. I still think that bmac is a priority for the Steelers still. I also think he is easily the #2 CB on the team. What surprised me is I watched NFL live last night and they ranked the 5 top CB's in free agency and bmac wasn't listed. In fact, his name wasn't even mentioned during the whole segment. Also, although he is a solid player, he has never really started a full season, correct? And he was injured for several games this year. That could be hurting his price tag, and Rosenhaus will not be nieve about that aspect.
    our CB's aren't lock down corners.. they are more zone and 1 CB's... they protect areas more then they play man to man and rarely bump and cover.

    BMac is over rated by Steeler fans IMO... I'm saw no difference and actually thought we improved with Gay at CB. He seems to be more ballhawkish then BMac IMO..

    Where we really begging for BMac when he went down? I don't remember people saying "we need BMac we getting burned without him."
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    • Oviedo
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      • May 2008
      • 23824

      #47
      Re: Steelers franchise Starks

      Originally posted by feltdizz
      Originally posted by jhansle1

      Not to high jack the thread but I disagree. I still think that bmac is a priority for the Steelers still. I also think he is easily the #2 CB on the team. What surprised me is I watched NFL live last night and they ranked the 5 top CB's in free agency and bmac wasn't listed. In fact, his name wasn't even mentioned during the whole segment. Also, although he is a solid player, he has never really started a full season, correct? And he was injured for several games this year. That could be hurting his price tag, and Rosenhaus will not be nieve about that aspect.
      our CB's aren't lock down corners.. they are more zone and 1 CB's... they protect areas more then they play man to man and rarely bump and cover.

      BMac is over rated by Steeler fans IMO... I'm saw no difference and actually thought we improved with Gay at CB. He seems to be more ballhawkish then BMac IMO..

      Where we really begging for BMac when he went down? I don't remember people saying "we need BMac we getting burned without him."
      That is why I have always argued against the notion of getting the mythical "Shutdown CB." The requirements on the CB in our defense is not the same as in others. This is good because it allows us to get and keep more reasonably priced CBs versus doing something stupid at $15M per year like the Raiders did for Asomugha. When you start paying your CBs like QBs you are going to suffer at a lot of other critical positions. More critical in our defense the way LaBeau runs it are LBs, NTs and SS.
      "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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      • steelz09
        Administrator
        • Jan 2008
        • 4675

        #48
        Re: Steelers franchise Starks

        Originally posted by feltdizz
        Originally posted by jhansle1

        Not to high jack the thread but I disagree. I still think that bmac is a priority for the Steelers still. I also think he is easily the #2 CB on the team. What surprised me is I watched NFL live last night and they ranked the 5 top CB's in free agency and bmac wasn't listed. In fact, his name wasn't even mentioned during the whole segment. Also, although he is a solid player, he has never really started a full season, correct? And he was injured for several games this year. That could be hurting his price tag, and Rosenhaus will not be nieve about that aspect.
        our CB's aren't lock down corners.. they are more zone and 1 CB's... they protect areas more then they play man to man and rarely bump and cover.

        BMac is over rated by Steeler fans IMO... I'm saw no difference and actually thought we improved with Gay at CB. He seems to be more ballhawkish then BMac IMO..

        Where we really begging for BMac when he went down? I don't remember people saying "we need BMac we getting burned without him."
        It's a two-headed monster really. Our pass rush was very good this year which always make the CB's look good. However, it can work in reverse. I think this core of CB's are the best we've had in a long long time and I would like to see it stay that way. I like Gay (did that come out right??, lol) but I think we should still sign bmac if it's possible without jeopardizing miller, harrison, and woodley. bmac has good ball skills and is more physical while gay is more "ball hawkish". In this league u need to be AT LEAST 4 deep in quality CB's.

        I'm not saying we'll sign mcfadden but I'm a little surprised he's not already gone or there isn't news on other teams very interested. Either he's asking for big money or teams aren't knocking down the door for him. If we lose him, I feel confident with Gay as our starter and drafting a rookie nickle back. But if he is, we're solid and could focus more on the big ugles in the 1st several rounds of the draft which is what I'd like to see.
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        • Oviedo
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 23824

          #49
          Re: Steelers franchise Starks

          Originally posted by jhansle1
          Originally posted by feltdizz
          Originally posted by jhansle1

          Not to high jack the thread but I disagree. I still think that bmac is a priority for the Steelers still. I also think he is easily the #2 CB on the team. What surprised me is I watched NFL live last night and they ranked the 5 top CB's in free agency and bmac wasn't listed. In fact, his name wasn't even mentioned during the whole segment. Also, although he is a solid player, he has never really started a full season, correct? And he was injured for several games this year. That could be hurting his price tag, and Rosenhaus will not be nieve about that aspect.
          our CB's aren't lock down corners.. they are more zone and 1 CB's... they protect areas more then they play man to man and rarely bump and cover.

          BMac is over rated by Steeler fans IMO... I'm saw no difference and actually thought we improved with Gay at CB. He seems to be more ballhawkish then BMac IMO..

          Where we really begging for BMac when he went down? I don't remember people saying "we need BMac we getting burned without him."
          It's a two-headed monster really. Our pass rush was very good this year which always make the CB's look good. However, it can work in reverse. I think this core of CB's are the best we've had in a long long time and I would like to see it stay that way. I like Gay (did that come out right??, lol) but I think we should still sign bmac if it's possible without jeopardizing miller, harrison, and woodley. bmac has good ball skills and is more physical while gay is more "ball hawkish". In this league u need to be AT LEAST 4 deep in quality CB's.

          I'm not saying we'll sign mcfadden but I'm a little surprised he's not already gone or there isn't news on other teams very interested. Either he's asking for big money or teams aren't knocking down the door for him. If we lose him, I feel confident with Gay as our starter and drafting a rookie nickle back. But if he is, we're solid and could focus more on the big ugles in the 1st several rounds of the draft which is what I'd like to see.
          Teams can't mention targeting Bmac until Feb 27th or they are guilty of tampering. It is against NFL rules to specifically mention names you are interested in before that date.

          Up until Feb 27th is exclusive right to negotiate for the current team.

          I agree that you need 4 and when Bmac leave, and don't doubt for one second he won't, I would seriously look at Leigh Bodden and see if he checks out.
          "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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